Might backfire. There was that epigenetics study comparing 3 generations of humans, which showed that if the grandparents  smoked, then the grandchildren would have a much higher risk of asthma etc. even if their parents did not smoke. I wonder how many generations it takes  of eating RVAF to fully get rid of the negative effects of  cooked foods?

I agree that epigenetic adaptation to, and genetic damage from cooked foods, may take a few generations to unwind.... so it could be that the first generation to go back to raw may actually be worse off...even if the study was utilizing quality, whole animal foods.

Also, even if there was the will and resources to do so, I doubt our mainstream science establishments are sophisticated enough or righteous enough to carry out in a fair and unbiased way, such a difficult task, as multiple generational raw vs cooked dietary studies.

From my own anecdotal observations, I have seen good results by utilizing combinations of both cooked and raw foods for my Animals, Girlfriend and Children.

My cats are prolific hunters, and will regularly eat chipmunks, squils, mice and birds, while being supplemented with a little grain free meat based kibble.

The dog eats raw scraps and bones, and is also supplemented with grain free kibble.

The chickens get plenty of bugs, compost and raw meat scraps, while being supplemented with organic scratch grains

The Girlfriend eats cooked ominously, while limiting grains and soy, and also utilizing raw foods including sushi and rare red meats

The children eat a primarily cooked diet, that includes grains and standard american junk food. The situation with the mother, school, the nation, and the rest of the family is impossibly difficult to deal with,  but I try my best to utilize raw foods and rare meats when I have them.

Like it of not the world has been so inundated with cooked foods that its near impossible for the average person to even attempt an entirely raw extremist way of life. Im the rawest living person I personally know, so its difficult to gain information regarding the raw vs cooked, outside of purely subjective and anecdotal suppositions.

The Grand Detox Mythos has not been fully investigated from a detached and objective perspective?

The mainstream perspective is entirely dismissive of the idea that bodies build up chronic toxicity deep within the tissues, and that these toxicities manifest as infections or other degenerative conditions.

The perspective of AV claims that these accumulated toxins are at the root cause of disease and what is called bacterial overgrowth or infections, is actually natures way of purifying and detoxifying the body.

Neither side seems to fully grasp the depths of the situation, beyond these superficial dichotomies. There is evidence which would suggest that AV is correct about the nature of bacterial, yeast and viral phenomenon. There must be some biological necessity for even the so called pathogenic organism.  AVs views are an extension of Antoine Bechamps  "Law of the terrain". Bechamp observed that pathogenic organism could only proliferate in a pathogenic environment. AV realized that these so called pathogenic organisms actually are necessary components which work to dissolve toxic tissue, making room for rejuvenation and new growth. I have postulated even further that these pathogens are mercenaries of Gaia, that are necessary for catabolism of naturally accrued imbalances, while also stimulating the immune system in ways that alter genetic expression in order to forge Lamarckian adaptations.

When addressing symptoms of Detox on must ask, Exactly what am I detoxing from? Yeast, bacterial and viral outbreaks can be an indication of Detox, but a detox of what? Many people are toxic with heavy metals, pesticides, petrochemical pollutants, mineral imbalances; which could cause the kind of overgrowths that will rot teeth, blemish the skin, weaken the bone structure, inhibit digestion and energy production...

Though some of these conditions are difficult to avoid and are a tragic part of modern life... could it be that many people are also being polluted by their own food choices? and these chronic neverending detoxes are actually detox reactions from the food itself? Think in terms of "law of the terrain" the corrosive bacteria that cause tooth rot are being feed from the bodies own secretions, that are made up of corrosive bacterial feeding elements in the food that is consumed. If the bodies metabolic system isn't capable of fully breaking down and assimilating foods like Dairy, then the unmetabolized components become toxic to the tissues, and so corrosive bacteria are manifested in order to facilitate detox.

These toxic food metabolites are excreted in the bodily fluids...the saliva, mucus, skin lanolin...these toxic metabolites feed the overgrowths of AVs "solvent producing bacteria".... This kind of food detox manifest in the mouth as cavities, and on the skin as blemished...it also can congest the liver, fowl up the digestion,trigger allergies, suppress the immune system, stiffen and inflame the bones and joints, and derange the hormonal homeostasis.....

These ideas are a generalization that may not apply in all cases, perhaps for many people who are not already polluted by the man made toxins, digesting foods like milk and honey are not an issue......so for these pristine specimens there are not excessive undigested metabolites for the corrosive bacteria to feed on...but say if you are in anyway already somewhat toxic and compromised in your ability to assimilate certain foods, then those symptoms of "detox" may in reality be symptoms of chronic food induced toxicity.

People who are toxic to the point of not being able to properly assimilate, shouldn't obsess so much about the concept of detox, and instead focus on finding the cleanest and most nourishing foods that your body can best utilise, while eliminating the possible sources of the underling environmental toxicity.

Drinking any dairy whatsoever would cause me a generally funky mouth feeling. Even paleo friendly carbs like from honey would also cause castic mouth conditions. Somehow the proteins and sugars of certain foods alter the mucus membrane and quality of the salivary secretions, so even if you thoroughly clean your mouth before going to sleep, the corrosive bacterial feeding elements in the foods you consume, are being constantly secreted through your own bodily fluids.

Pure carnivory on the other hand doesn't seem to be an issue for me, as it seems the meat and raw fat based diet seems to promote clean non corrosive, healthy bacterial feeding secretions. I very often fall asleep right after eating with a fair amount of connective tissue still stuck in my teeth...sometimes I even fall asleep with a whole wade of connective tissue in my mouth, that I chew for gum...by morning whatever meat is left in between the teeth is usually dissolved enough to easily remove with a morning drink and swish. The mouth fermented meat is fairly fowl, and yet those meat bacterial do not seem to be corrosive to my tooth enamel...and perhaps such flesh loving bacteria act to protect the teeth from other more mineral corroding strains of microbes?

I don't brush and have not brushed for years...even before paleo I had learned how to naturally clean my mouth out by swishing saliva in conjunction with the use of skillful tongue dexterity...haven't had any cavities since I was a teenager when I was foolishly brushing with flouride toothpaste daily.

Such natural forms of oral hygiene can be fairly effective in cleaning the teeth and keeping corrosive plaques from eating away the enamel, even for people who eat those decay promoting foods.

Ive taken notice that the teeth are alive, and not just dead bone used to pulverize and masticate foodstuff. Ive had weak spots in tooth enamel heal overtime. I went to a dentist when I was 16 and was told I had a small cavity that needed filling, it hurt sometimes but usually wasn't very bothersome, so I let it go...and quit going to the dentist for years. I had some pain from time to time around a couple of old fillings (from when I was a child)and was then seen by a dentist for a check up at age 25.... he said I had good teeth, a couple of weak spots but no active cavities.

 I noticed around the 2nd year of Raw paleo that the two molars with fillings, which would sometime hurt when cold or if I bit something too hard, had quit hurting altogether and were no longer sensitive to cold. Something interesting would happen on occasion, it would often occur after a short fast, or sometimes out of the blue, my teeth would get a gritty coating, I could feel on the tops of my molars, like sand paper, and the gum lines would become encrusted with a mineral plaque. I never brushed it off or tried to floss and would just continue to practice natural hygiene, sometimes chewing on connective tissue for a while... and eventually the mineral gritt layer would smooth away leaving my teeth feeling very clean and strong.

The roots of the teeth are alive and when awoken into action by vigorous chewing of raw flesh, they are stimulated to increase in their vitality, leading to the excreting of more dentin promoting growth factors that remineralise the teeth from the inside out, while the chewing of the flesh polishes the surface enamel.

Perhaps if not interfered with by constant brushing, and consuming of corrosive bacteria feeding foods, or chewing on harsh abrasive foods, the whole oral cavity can maintain itself quite well, as it undergoes the periodic cycles rejuvenation...much in the same way all the other bones in the body continue to repair themselves through the life cycle.   

 

The ideal case is that I can eat more fatty cuts of meat, but the problem is I can´t digest them yet, as my stomach acid is still not strong enough, plus I need a ratio of about 60 fat to 40 protein or more, otherwise digestion is bad. Ideally I would eat cheap fatty cuts, or osso buco which has the bone marrow included, together with some lard or tallow. Raw fat is too hard to digest and where I live there are no healthy animals around. So the only way would be the osso and the fatty cuts, or homemade bacon in extra fat. I´d like to phase out dairy a bit, by eating less dairy but with higher fat content, like butter.

How did you achieve turning away from dairy and how did your body take it? You just stopped all of a sudden? And how was your digestion? Sabertooth said to go on a 2 day water fast to possibly reset the microbiome. Did you do something like that?

I also noticed how dairy would entirely inhibit my ability to digest raw animal fats. Drinking milk with fatty meat would make it seem like the meat is just swimming in the milk and not digesting fully.  I tried limiting the amount of meat and fat while drinking larger amounts and lessening the fat. It helped a little, but overall my gut never felt right with dairy no matter the protocol or ratio.

I believe the enzymes and probiotics that work to digest raw animal fat are squelched out by dairy, especially in people like myself who were enzymatically insufficient. After a week or so of drinking milk daily the fats begin to pass through entirely undigested, and I lose my cravings for any extra fats. The milk sugar seems to throw me out of keto, and though temporarily it will give me energy and stimulate hunger and weight gain... it leads to episodes of hypoglycemia, digestive distress, and a host of other symptoms which lead me to abstain altogether.

Using dairy for only short periods, I could usually rebalance the gut within a week or so...I imagine someone who relied on it for longer periods of time, while never truly adapting to high levels of animal fat, would have a much more difficult time eliminating it from the diet. It could take up to three weeks to rid the gut of the milk sugars, fats, proteins, and microbes that inhibit adaptation to raw animal fat digestion.

I recommend a short term fast to help jumpstart the keto process, but its important to not starve yourself, three days water fast max, and to make sure you have the best fatty meats available once dairy has been eliminated. Try to obtain a variety of different fats... marrow, caul fat, suet, brain, sweet breads, tongue. Beware of cooked fats like tallow and lard, especially from unknown sources.

Once the body becomes starved for overall calories and has no other alternative, then it will be much more eager to rev up the long dormant keto metabolism. If you can get past the hurdle of raw fat digestion, then everything becomes much easier to balance. For me I can eat copious amounts of Raw fat, but there may have been some anomaly which isn't shared by most people. Before starting the Raw paleo diet I experimented with a high fat vegan diet, where everything was covered with olive or coconut oil. I spent a month eating low glycemic vegetables covered with plant fats. After weeks of enduring such an abusive dietary regimen, raw animal fats were easy to breakdown. Around the same time ealy into the transition I was using coconut butter to supplement fat, because of the lean goat meat I was eating didn't have enough. Raw Coconut butter seemed to help prime my fat burning metabolism, and I still to this day eat a couple of tablespoons with my meals...though again I could be as much an anomaly as the coconut itself.

Collecting blood from a carcass would depend a lot on how the animal was killed, and to the degree in which it has already been cleaned. I cut the throat and bleed out my sheep, so that there isn't a lot of blood left inside the carcass. When the sheep is pregnant the fetal blood will pool in the intestinal area and can be taken out with very little loss.

If an animal is shot by a hunter and dies without having any major artery bleed out, the the carcass will be full of clotting blood, that could be scooped out into a container. The liquid plasma will separate from the clots of blood cells, so you could have a portion that is  liquid. The clots can be blended up to a more liquid consistency to be used as a drink, but I usually just wolf down a chunky mouthful of the whole clot.

The best way to get blood is to be on sight when the animal is killed and either bleed it out yourself, or collected it from the abdominal area during the gutting( hopefully without rupturing the gut and ruining the party)

Ive had to throw any sense of tradition out the window when adopting this diet..... just thinking about the kind of standardized gluttony which surrounded the family holiday dinners of my youth makes me feel SAD. Candied Ham, overcooked turkey, every form of gluten imaginable, sweet potatoes covered in marshmallows....and then there were the decadent deserts of pies, cakes, pudding...everyone went into a diabetic coma afterward, which was always blamed on the tryptophan in the turkey.

Thank God I no longer celebrate the birth of Jesus in such a heathenistic fashion

Sacrilegious tragedy aside...... Ive been working on some real rawsome treats that could be enjoyed anytime of the year, though my homemade puddings may be a little difficult for some to stomach....

The last sheep I butchered had a couple of fetuses.... so I took a little of the placenta, amniotic fluid and blended it with the mothers stomach and a piece of pancreas to top it off...It was surprisingly good, the amniotic fluid and placenta give the carnal holiday pudding a creamy, bloody and salty-sweet quality.

There is a lot to considered when putting oneself out into the public arena, and I had the thought of waiting a few more years to gain more experience and credibility before embarking upon a more expansive crusade. Yet the writing is on the wall and it would seem now is the time to bring the raw and carnal message into the forefront of the health discussion.

 It comes down to timing and logistics.... currently I have a couple of large remodel projects, a pond to finish, and am planning on taking a road trip to a sunny beach through the new year holiday.

I am sure there must be a growing audience that would be interested in the type of content I could provide, and I do have an intention, at the very least, to do a new series showing start to finish, the harvesting and storing of a whole animal, along with detailed segments highlighting what to do with the various different parts individually.

I began trolling VPs comment section after he began his carnivorous experiment, leaving many detailed messages regarding the benefits of raw meat...and offering helpful tips.... now he is following a raw carnivorous diet of mostly sheep meat.

I have been fervently prophesying for years that it would only be a matter of time before people in the wider world would learn of the benefits of Raw Meat based diets. I was dismissed repeatedly by many people for suggesting that one day Raw Meat consumption would be a topic of mainstream discussion. Buried within the nearly 3000 post and personal messages on this forum is  numerous examples of a deeply held conviction that we would not be ignored and relegated to the fringe forever.

Though the current spike in interest is catalyzed by an explosion of independant Youtube advocates, I do not believe the movement will be contained to just health centric social media channels. We are breaking through to more mainstream arenas...the low carb craze is expanding well beyond the youtube community.. I personally know many people now going keto with great benefits...and once those people learn about carnivore, and then Raw Carnivore, there will be no stopping millions of people within the next few years, from shifting toward these kinds of diets.

The establishment medical complex is being blindsided by recent developments, and their lack of response will only fuel dissention in the ranks. Intelligent people from within the system will begin to have their eyes opened and they will abandon the old beliefs and join in mind, body, and spirit, with this carnal embracing renaissance, that seeks to explore more optimal ways of nourishing and nurturing humanity, as the species continues to evolve ever forward in triumph!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeV-lC7-l6U
Primal Edge gets into the high meat


 

Postponed again, It will happen, but I will quit trying to post the exact time, and will just link the interview if and when it happens.

The primal edge is into high meat now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7GsYVaR5EM

It would seem you are following a reasonable course of action....still I would suggest that the baby being frustrated is part of the process which triggers increase in milk supply. Each case is individual and there are always other factors to consider but generally speaking, pumping especially early on can disconnect the mother and baby bond which dictates how much prolactin hormone is released.

Also depending on what kind of bottle nipple you use, will affect how the baby will nurse. Too fast of a flow nipple will make them less willing to work for it when it comes to actual nursing.

Many mothers who pump and bottle feed end up drying up because the baby after being feed pumped milk, doesn't latch on and stimulate the adequate release of milk hormones. Also mothers will become worried when their babies struggle and give up too soon, before the flow really begins to kick in.

There are a number of factors to consider, my 4 children were breastfed and the mother had supply issues come and go with each of them. Sometimes it just takes a little time to come in.

There are a number of herbal tea mother's milk formulas and different foods which seemed to increase production in the mother. Though it wasn't paleo, fried rice would really make her swell up with milk. At least small amounts of rice would be a better alternative to gluten grains until you could more fully transition into a paleo style diet.

Start out with more fatty cuts.... fats are critical for early childhood development, and making sure you have adequate quantities of good fat is important for quality milk production.

Pumping isn't ideal, I understand that in the modern world it may be necessary, but it doesn't stimulate milk production the same as frequent nursing.