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Title: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on August 12, 2008, 08:32:47 pm
I'm eating 20 extra-large oysters(some of which are double-oysters, not just one). What are you eating right now?
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 13, 2008, 01:00:51 am
Right now I am enjoying one pound of beef sprinkled with a little bit of sea salt. Deeeeeelicious
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Satya on August 13, 2008, 03:08:11 am
Beef jerky that came from a roast sliced fresh from the farm, to which I added some seasonings and dried.  They cut it too thick the last few times, so I may as well be eating a tasty shoe.  I will buy the whole roast and use my deli slicer next time.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Satya on August 13, 2008, 03:09:48 am
But I'd rather be eating oysters with Tyler!
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: xylothrill on August 13, 2008, 06:10:35 am
But I'd rather be eating oysters with Tyler!

Are you sure you don't want to be eating oysters with Tyler because HE'S eating oysters?

I'm eating some suet, just so I could post in this thread right now.  :)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: stevesurv on August 13, 2008, 06:12:44 am
I happen to be eating diced buffalo heart with some tasty olive oil and a dash o' dill with some marrow.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 13, 2008, 06:46:44 am
Mmmmm, I just tore into some lamb heart a little bit ago.

Is it just me or does anyone else make some pretty scary noises when they're eating such things? When I take a bite that I have to tear at, sometimes I start growling!!
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Satya on August 13, 2008, 06:52:58 am
Are you sure you don't want to be eating oysters with Tyler because HE'S eating oysters?

Say again?
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: stevesurv on August 13, 2008, 07:13:49 am
Mmmmm, I just tore into some lamb heart a little bit ago.

Is it just me or does anyone else make some pretty scary noises when they're eating such things? When I take a bite that I have to tear at, sometimes I start growling!!

 :D Yes, I get that primal urge. It feels good!
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: xylothrill on August 13, 2008, 09:14:39 am
:D Yes, I get that primal urge. It feels good!

Steve and Keith, you're animals! I can't say that's happened to me.  :)

Craig
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: xylothrill on August 13, 2008, 09:16:10 am
Say again?

Never mind. I should have kept my mouth shut.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Satya on August 13, 2008, 09:26:09 am
Never mind. I should have kept my mouth shut.

No, not at all.  I am just not getting it.  Sorry.  It must be some dirty joke I am missing, right?

I will say that I want to eat oysters with Tyler because:
1) He has a source for good oysters (else he wouldn't be eating them) and I don't
2) I think he could find it in his heart to share some with me
3) He's a pretty cool dude whose company I would not mind sharing over some oysters on the half shell.

Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: xylothrill on August 13, 2008, 09:44:39 am
No, not at all.  I am just not getting it.  Sorry.  It must be some dirty joke I am missing, right?

I will say that I want to eat oysters with Tyler because:
1) He has a source for good oysters (else he wouldn't be eating them) and I don't
2) I think he could find it in his heart to share some with me
3) He's a pretty cool dude whose company I would not mind sharing over some oysters on the half shell.



Yes, that's what I meant. I'd like to sit down and eat whole, baby, electric eels with him one day for the same reasons.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Satya on August 13, 2008, 09:47:47 am
I think you are jealous because I am flirting with Tyler!  :P
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: xylothrill on August 13, 2008, 10:06:58 am
I think you are jealous because I am flirting with Tyler!  :P

What makes you think I want Tyler to myself?  :P
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on August 13, 2008, 05:45:57 pm
I ate some odd clams I'm trying out for the first time.
I wasn't satisfied with that, I had left over raw tuna afterwards.
I wasn't satisfied with that, I had raw fatty beef sirloin.
That satisfied my appetite for lunch.

I rushed to a meeting and rode 2 trains.

When I arrived I was thirsty and had coconut juice.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 14, 2008, 12:10:31 am
Right now I'm eating 2 raw eggs (which I don't usually eat but I bought some today)
and a lamb heart. Let the growling commence!  ;D
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Satya on August 14, 2008, 01:08:56 am
What makes you think I want Tyler to myself?  :P

So, you want to share him?  :o
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: xylothrill on August 14, 2008, 06:12:38 am
So, you want to share him?  :o

Ha ha! You got me! I'm screwed now matter what I answer. Pun intended.  ???
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Satya on August 14, 2008, 09:05:24 am
I am eating steak chili: sliced sirloin with a scoop of warm bone broth from the cooked chili I made, with 1 day fermented salsa and guacamole.

Ha ha! You got me! I'm screwed now matter what I answer. Pun intended.  ???

I am contemplating sharing a post-oyster workout.  And you backed yourself into that corner, btw.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on August 17, 2008, 06:04:21 am
I'm eating a wild-hare carcass(whole, well minus bones).
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on August 17, 2008, 07:44:46 pm
Raw leg of lamb.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: stevesurv on August 17, 2008, 09:38:30 pm
Meaty and fatty goat ribs, lamb fat, beef kidney and a heaping spoon of sauerkraut. :P
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Nicola on August 18, 2008, 02:31:47 am
Meaty and fatty goat ribs, lamb fat, beef kidney and a heaping spoon of sauerkraut. :P

I have tryed goat, but it is as tough as the hills and does not have any fat (goat is very lean). How could you tackle that plus ribs??? and does that digest well?

Nicola
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: stevesurv on August 18, 2008, 04:25:48 am
I have tryed goat, but it is as tough as the hills and does not have any fat (goat is very lean). How could you tackle that plus ribs??? and does that digest well?

Nicola

Yes they are pretty tough and I probably won't buy them again. There is a decent amount of fat around them, though. I prefer beef and lamb ribs. Goat ribs seem to digest fine. I haven't had any digestive disturbances with any meat or fat that I've consumed, so far. It's only when I eat fruit, such as berries, when I start farting or get diarrhea. Any other form of sugar is potentially big trouble for me.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on August 18, 2008, 04:28:47 am
I absolutely love the taste of goatmeat. Trouble is that this requires me to travel to Brixton market, halfway across town, which is a rare occasion.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: stevesurv on August 18, 2008, 04:32:52 am
I absolutely love the taste of goatmeat. Trouble is that this requires me to travel to Brixton market, halfway across town, which is a rare occasion.

I thought the taste of the meat was good also. I'll be steering clear of the ribs for other parts from now on. I haven't tried the organs yet. That'll be on my next order.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on August 18, 2008, 04:43:53 pm
I had raw tuna for lunch.

As a mid-afternoon snack I got thick coconut meat and the coconut juice.

Upon arriving home, I had a few rambutan pieces.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: coconinoz on August 19, 2008, 10:19:34 am

"I'm eating a wild-hare carcass(whole, well minus bones)"

do you make bone water?

Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on August 19, 2008, 05:43:25 pm

"I'm eating a wild-hare carcass(whole, well minus bones)"

do you make bone water?



No. I don't even know what that is.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 21, 2008, 04:44:59 am
Raw liver baby!

Man, my dogs won't leave me alone when I eat this stuff!
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: stevesurv on August 21, 2008, 06:08:27 am
beef tongue and beef fat. I'm trying the beef fat for the first time and man, I'm likin' it. It's much more moist than the lamb fat.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 07, 2008, 06:00:57 am
Right now I'm eating some lamb heart
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on September 07, 2008, 07:29:45 am
Just had breakfast:
Papaya
Coconut Juice
Coconut Meat
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on September 07, 2008, 05:36:49 pm
Raw leg of lamb(I'm also using a little moutarde de meaux, for once, even though it's not ideal - it's supposedly without preservatives but is probably not raw).
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on September 07, 2008, 10:31:25 pm
Dinner was raw goat meat and some raw beef sirloin.
Then added a gloria banana, organic and wild from the mountain of antipolo.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on September 08, 2008, 02:19:27 am
Dinner was raw goat meat and some raw beef sirloin.
Then added a gloria banana, organic and wild from the mountain of antipolo.

I must get some raw goat meat from Brixton market, it's so delightful re taste, but a major hassle to get hold of as it's in south London, while I live in northwest London.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on September 08, 2008, 06:13:06 am
I must get some raw goat meat from Brixton market, it's so delightful re atste, but a major hassle to get hold of as it's in south London, while I live in northwest London.

Hi Geoff,

My wife will be on business / sight seeing in London for 2 weeks on October.  Any suggestions where she can get healthy, organic, wild meat and fruit?

I think she will hang out in West End a couple of days watching all the musicals she has time for.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on September 08, 2008, 06:28:47 pm
Hi Geoff,

My wife will be on business / sight seeing in London for 2 weeks on October.  Any suggestions where she can get healthy, organic, wild meat and fruit?

I think she will hang out in West End a couple of days watching all the musicals she has time for.

The trouble is that I go to local semi-organic farmers' markets, where you sometimes have to set up an order for next week in order to get stuff. That said, PROVIDED she always turns up early at these markets, then she'll generally find decent food - if she arrives in the last couple of hours, she'll be lucky to find any decent meats.

Here's the London Farmer's Market association website:-

http://www.lfm.org.uk/
, where you can find a markets map showing all the various markets(Marylebone market is the largest one, one stall sells wild hare, you get things like wild mallard but not now, and you have to order things like raw lobster in advance). All these markets have their own homepage on the LFM site, with directions as to how to get there, most are held either on Saturday or Sunday every week(except Christmas/New Year), with a few smaller markets opening every Wednesday, instead. Many stalls sell initially grassfed but grain-finished meat, rather than 100% grassfed, so you'll have to ask - stick with raw lamb, if you have no idea re meat-quality.

Borough market is a great market(next to London Bridge station on the Northern Line-Bank branch of the Underground)
http://www.allinlondon.co.uk/borough-market.php
, but should only be visited at weekends(3rd saturday each month is when it's at its busiest). It's a total tourist trap and a rip-off so your wife avoid it like the plague unless you've allowed her to spend whatever she wants!


Covent Garden market(near covent garden tube-station)(I hear one can buy grey squirrel carcasses now from there:-
http://www.cgma.gov.uk/


Otherwise seek out ethnic markets like Brixton Market(you can get raw goat there):-

http://www.allinlondon.co.uk/brixton-market.php
Chinatown:-
http://www.places-to-go.org.uk/chinatown.htm

http://gridskipper.com/65039/londons-best-food-markets

There are also wild game butchers here and there and small fishmonger's in most areas(mainly the poorer areas). Just Google for them under "London UK", and you should find several. The fishmongers will be relatively cheap for some types of fish, the game butchers will be very expensive.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on September 08, 2008, 08:06:52 pm
Wow, thanks for the info.

This evening I had a big breast of organic raw chicken all to myself... until my kids saw what I was eating... all three of them dumped whatever they were eating and took over and ate my raw chicken breast.  Part of the time they dipped it in wild honey and part of the time just plain.

So I got my raw fertilized eggs, but again 2 kids took over my fertilized eggs, I was only able to eat 2.

So I got out my celery sticks.  By this time, the kids were full so at least I had my celery.

Then I finished off with coconut juice and some meat.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: wodgina on September 08, 2008, 08:20:00 pm
Your a great dad :) at least you got some celery

Meat mix 75/25 + salt + azomite.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 11, 2008, 01:28:45 am
just ate some purple cabbage a little while ago...

right now I'm chowing down on some lamb liver...

then on to my ground beef after that
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on September 17, 2008, 12:20:57 am
Yesterday, 1 whole ox tongue plus 4 small lamb's hearts, today  2 live lobsters(well, killed just before eaten) - all eaten raw, naturally.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on September 17, 2008, 07:39:33 am
I got curious yesterday and bought a 12 oz frozen package of Wild Keto Salmon.
Seems from the checklist in the package that it was caught in Chinese waters, packaged in the USA and shipped to the Philippines.
It took a whole day to defrost in my refrigerator.
Just this morning I had my first taste of wild salmon.
It didn't taste very good... seems it has been frozen for too long.
Maybe I should save up and fly to Norway or Alaska to taste the real thing.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Nicola on September 17, 2008, 06:42:40 pm
Yesterday, 1 whole ox tongue plus 4 small lamb's hearts, today  2 live lobsters(well, killed just before eaten) - all eaten raw, naturally.

Tyler, did you bolt tongue and heart down? No chewing? and that gets digested - no undigested coming out the other end?

What about the lobsters? Do you bolt them down?

You don't seem to need much food - but then again, if we have more than 40'000 calories (even a lean body) circulating in the system...

Nicola
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: rawrock2 on September 17, 2008, 06:55:08 pm
Tyler, do you eat the shell and and all when you eat lobster?  The fisrt and only time I ever ate lobster, I ate the meat and the shell.  It was raw but it had a strange sauce on it.  About 5 min. after I ate the shell and meat, my throat swelled up a lot and I could hardly breath for the remainder of the night.  I laid down and somehow feel asleep.  The next day I was fine again but very fearful of eating any kind of lobster.  I wonder was it the shell or the sauce??
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Nicola on September 17, 2008, 06:57:36 pm
Tyler, I am also wondering, if your weight is back down to "normal" or what you feel to be "normal"?

Do you think it's the fruit you eat that makes you gain or the two meals you ate on holiday? I was thinking it may be those capsules for your adrenals that may cause extra weight?

Nicola
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on September 17, 2008, 08:52:05 pm
Tyler, did you bolt tongue and heart down? No chewing? and that gets digested - no undigested coming out the other end?

What about the lobsters? Do you bolt them down?

You don't seem to need much food - but then again, if we have more than 40'000 calories (even a lean body) circulating in the system...

Nicola

I just cut up sizes which will fit into my mouth just about and bolt them down with almost no chewing(perhaps a quick chomp of the jaws once or twice, that's it, no more). I always find they digest well, with them being better absorbed by the body than, say, minced raw meat.

Re lobsters:- Same again, no need to chew. The meat of lobsters is so liquidy, anyway, that it would be pointless.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: rawrock2 on September 17, 2008, 09:30:44 pm
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bolt them down with almost no chewing(perhaps a quick chomp of the jaws once or twice, that's it, no more).

lol, that what my dogs do when it's feeding time.  They just swallow it down lighting fast like it's the last supper almost choking at times.  :D
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on September 18, 2008, 12:56:47 am
Tyler, do you eat the shell and and all when you eat lobster?  The fisrt and only time I ever ate lobster, I ate the meat and the shell.  It was raw but it had a strange sauce on it.  About 5 min. after I ate the shell and meat, my throat swelled up a lot and I could hardly breath for the remainder of the night.  I laid down and somehow feel asleep.  The next day I was fine again but very fearful of eating any kind of lobster.  I wonder was it the shell or the sauce??

No I never eat the shell.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on September 18, 2008, 12:59:18 am
Tyler, I am also wondering, if your weight is back down to "normal" or what you feel to be "normal"?

Do you think it's the fruit you eat that makes you gain or the two meals you ate on holiday? I was thinking it may be those capsules for your adrenals that may cause extra weight?

Nicola

No, the adrenal capsules don't alter my weight, AFAIK. I do get a little fat if I overdo the fruit, but my weight is fine, now. It's been very stable during my rawpalaeo-era, with my weight only suddenly going up during times when I've had to eat some cooked-foods(usually during the Christmas-New-Year part of the year)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Satya on September 18, 2008, 01:07:08 am
Steak tartare with egg yolks from my hens and chives from the garden (if you could call it that with all the grass overgrown everywhere).
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Nicola on September 18, 2008, 07:03:21 pm
I just cut up sizes which will fit into my mouth just about and bolt them down with almost no chewing(perhaps a quick chomp of the jaws once or twice, that's it, no more). I always find they digest well, with them being better absorbed by the body than, say, minced raw meat.

Re lobsters:- Same again, no need to chew. The meat of lobsters is so liquidy, anyway, that it would be pointless.

Tyler, I slept over this and have a few more questions:

How did you find out that minced raw meat or chewed meat does not digest as well as bolted ?
What about suet; if you bolt suet then I am shore, that you will find that suet in your stools?
How do you know that you like wild hare or horse meat if you don't chew it; it must all be very much the same?

Nicola
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on September 18, 2008, 08:04:37 pm
Tyler, I slept over this and have a few more questions:

How did you find out that minced raw meat or chewed meat does not digest as well as bolted ?
What about suet; if you bolt suet then I am shore, that you will find that suet in your stools?
How do you know that you like wild hare or horse meat if you don't chew it; it must all be very much the same?

Nicola

I used to eat quite a bit of minced, raw meat when I first went rawpalaeo, and it didn't digest well, I would feel a bit unconfortable and it would sit in my stomach for some time(though without the severe stomach-pains I had after eating cooked-animal-food)

I did find suet in my stools for a while. Only with one source of suet, or if I ate too much of it at one meal.

Re wild hare/horsemeat:- I may chew hardly at all, but I do get the full benefit of the taste and texture. However, my main interest is to just bolt down the meats so that I can devote my time to more important non-food-related issues. Going rawpalaeo has saved me SO much time each day that would otherwise be wasted on eating food.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on September 18, 2008, 08:45:54 pm
This morning, raw Philippine "salmon" ocean fish.
The coconut juice and coconut meat.
Then some bananas.

At lunch, while in the car, my driver was driving, fresh just killed raw sirloin beef with deep yellow fat.

At dinner, raw sea weed "lato" plus raw garlic and raw salmon (shame on me, it's farmed, but it's my wife's birthday and she likes salmon)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: rawrock2 on September 19, 2008, 04:44:00 am
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Going rawpalaeo has saved me SO much time each day that would otherwise be wasted on eating food.
That's true.  Since reading that, I have been just swallowing my food whole and it does save time.  Seems right as well, the animals I see on national geographic always gulf their food down as quickly as possible without chewing for the most part.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on September 19, 2008, 04:51:21 am
That's true.  Since reading that, I have been just swallowing my food whole and it does save time.  Seems right as well, the animals I see on national geographic always gulf their food down as quickly as possible without chewing for the most part.

Re "eating":- I meant, of course , that I saved time by not chewing a lot, or preparing or cooking my foods(well, other than cutting with a knife). *
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 19, 2008, 08:22:51 pm
I'm about to eat some lamb liver that's been in the fridge for a week, or a little over a week.
Is there any bacterial benefit to this at all? Has that been enough time? Or will I just be eating disgusting old liver for no extra benefit at all? I know most high meat is like a month old, right?
This is the oldest meat that I'll have ever eaten. I usually find liver to be pretty gross after 3 days in the fridge... I can't imagine what this is gonna be like.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 20, 2008, 12:07:01 am
Well, anyway I just ate a bit of it.
Definitely smelled AWFUL and tasted pretty bad. Not as bad as I thought it would be though. Washing it down with mineral water made it a lot better. I only chewed each bite a couple times. Couldn't have done much more. I feel accomplished  ;D
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on September 20, 2008, 12:07:18 am
I'm about to eat some lamb liver that's been in the fridge for a week, or a little over a week.
Is there any bacterial benefit to this at all? Has that been enough time? Or will I just be eating disgusting old liver for no extra benefit at all? I know most high meat is like a month old, right?
This is the oldest meat that I'll have ever eaten. I usually find liver to be pretty gross after 3 days in the fridge... I can't imagine what this is gonna be like.

I find slightly-aged, raw meat to be more digestible than raw meats, but it doesn't have anywhere near the effect of "high-meat". I usually need to wait c. 2-3 weeks to get some effect. Of course, it depends on so many different factors(how cold the fridge is etc.) Sometimes, when I've left it out of the fridge, the organ-meat becomes too dried to become "high-meat" - I assume some humidity is required - wouldn't happen with liver, though, it's too soft.

I've tried raw liver as "high-meat" in the past, and it didn't turn out to be a success. By the time it was "high-meat-ripe" it was practically a liquid soup, and I can't face eating the stuff.

I found it much easier to use beef-/ox-heart or, to a lesser extent, ox-/beef-tongue instead, re high-meat.

Try the aged, raw liver for now anyway - it'll help you to get used to aged meat in general.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: stevesurv on September 20, 2008, 12:13:18 pm
What am I eating right now? You don't even want to know. :-\
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 21, 2008, 09:23:10 am
What am I eating right now? You don't even want to know. :-\
That bad, huh?


I'm eating the 100% grass-fed beef that I got from the Farmer's Market today.
The taste and smell are SOOOOO much different than what I'm used to, the meat that gets sent to me.
This meat I'm eating now has a flavor that is so... robust! It's so strong.
I don't even know if I like it or not!
What might be the reason for this drastically different flavor?
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on September 21, 2008, 10:02:04 am
This breakfast:

Papaya
Rambutan

Then coconut juice and coconut meat snack

Then saba banana snack

I'm awaiting our maids to finish dressing 2 native chickens and I've reserved a breast and liver for myself.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Satya on September 21, 2008, 10:22:14 am
I'm eating the 100% grass-fed beef that I got from the Farmer's Market today.
The taste and smell are SOOOOO much different than what I'm used to, the meat that gets sent to me.
This meat I'm eating now has a flavor that is so... robust! It's so strong.
I don't even know if I like it or not!
What might be the reason for this drastically different flavor?

Grassfed beef (GFB) can taste different depending on the source.  My ranchers, John and Wendy Taggert, at Burgundy Pasture Beef (BPB), give me more insight into cattle raising every time I place an order (and I should write everything they tell me down as I can forget tid bits).  And really, there are so many factors like age of animal,  aging of hanged beef, grasses consumed (and weather conditions, etc.), stress for cows at slaughter, you name it.  They have said cows can be skinny and tough, or fat and tender (and I have seen and tasted differences from local farms).  In the past, I have had GFB that tastes vaguely of fish, and I didn't care for it.  Of course, it was cooked somewhat, so the flavor was probably more pronounced than it would have been tasting it raw now.  When I tried BPB meat a few years ago (cooked rare), it was complex and earthy, like you could taste the land and care that went into it, if that makes sense.  It was as similar to  the differences between wines, or how the playing of Beethoven's 7th is different by performance.

I don't know what to tell you, but ask your farmers everything.  If they are knowledgeable and caring, they will want to share with you why they raise their beef the way they do, and can probably tell you why it tastes like it does.  You are becoming the fine beef connessieur, what can you say?

It is really green here in N TX since late august.  I have 2 whole lambs on order from another farm who are chowing down on some super lush local grasses now.  I can't wait to sink my teeth and camera into it next month!

Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoKyle on September 21, 2008, 06:22:14 pm
That bad, huh?


I'm eating the 100% grass-fed beef that I got from the Farmer's Market today.
The taste and smell are SOOOOO much different than what I'm used to, the meat that gets sent to me.
This meat I'm eating now has a flavor that is so... robust! It's so strong.
I don't even know if I like it or not!
What might be the reason for this drastically different flavor?

I think age of cow and type of grass eaten affect the taste most. If the prices are high it is most likely due to age. I pay $7-12/lb for my local ground meat, but those cows live to be 8 years old before slaughter. There are also different grasses some with higher sugar/carbs than others. Also region would make a difference. Cows from the northeast (where I am ) get less sun and heat than cows in the south.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 21, 2008, 06:48:53 pm
ah, thanks Satya and Kyle for setting me straight!
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on September 21, 2008, 11:04:20 pm
We had a dinner party tonight for me, my son and my wife's birthday so we had lots of raw stuff:

raw salmon, raw tuna, raw blue marlin
a home made raw pesto to put on raw salad greens
coconut juice
rambutan

I drove my grandmother home late at night.

I just arrived and had 3 raw fertilized duck egg yolks.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 21, 2008, 11:15:10 pm
it was all three of your birthdays?

What is rambutan? (i haven't asked this before have I? I hope not! :-[)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on September 21, 2008, 11:39:17 pm
My wife September 18
Me, my 2nd son, my dad September 20
My best friend also September 20 he came by too.

This is rambutan...
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 21, 2008, 11:46:41 pm
wow, look awesome!
what's it like?
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on September 21, 2008, 11:55:51 pm
The kids and my wife really like this fruit.
Rambutan tastes like rambutan.
It's juicy, light sweet, watery, it quenches thirst, your hands get sticky.
There is a big seed in the middle.  You don't eat the seed.
The flesh is firm gelatin type about 1/8" thick.
My kids can eat 10 rambutans at a time.
We have this every morning and every day while it is in season.
Then we move on to the next fruit in season.

Here is the rambutan in the basket and the food we had for dinner.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Satya on September 22, 2008, 12:08:13 am
Happy birthday, Edwin!  (I can't believe I missed it!)
What a festive spread!  Oh, yum yum yum!
Enjoy the rest of your birthday weekend!
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 22, 2008, 12:11:04 am
Oh yes, how rude of me! Happy birthday!
What a great looking family
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: wodgina on September 22, 2008, 06:36:09 am
Rambutans are tasty, we used to get them when we were in singapore, just buy a huge bag for the day. Happy Birthday too!
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 23, 2008, 01:40:09 am
Just finished up some two-week old lamb liver.
I don't think it was quite "high" yet, but it was really stinky.
Didn't taste too bad though.
Could it be that only beef liver turns into soup as it gets older? Because the lamb liver was much more solid than it was originally.

Man... maybe it was old enough to have some "high" benefits.... I feel like there is energy surging through my body and my brain seems really focused. Could just be a mental thing though.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Satya on September 23, 2008, 02:05:51 am
Man... maybe it was old enough to have some "high" benefits.... I feel like there is energy surging through my body and my brain seems really focused. Could just be a mental thing though.

Yeah, you might be hallucinating again.  ;)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 23, 2008, 05:56:20 am
*sigh* it's those flashbacks, what can I say?  :P
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on September 23, 2008, 01:38:41 pm
Just had lunch:
leftover blue marlin
left over tuna
left over beef sirloin
one saba banana
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: seesawsemiology on September 23, 2008, 05:06:26 pm
marrow, loving it.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on September 24, 2008, 05:10:33 am
Just finished up some two-week old lamb liver.
I don't think it was quite "high" yet, but it was really stinky.
Didn't taste too bad though.
Could it be that only beef liver turns into soup as it gets older? Because the lamb liver was much more solid than it was originally.

Man... maybe it was old enough to have some "high" benefits.... I feel like there is energy surging through my body and my brain seems really focused. Could just be a mental thing though.

Judging from your description above, you've finally managed to experience the "crack cocaine" equivalent  of the raw-animal-foodist world. It took me 3 years to get up the courage to try the authentic "high-meat", so you've obviously got a lot of guts.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: stevesurv on September 24, 2008, 05:30:09 am
Beef tongue w/olive oil and suet.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on September 24, 2008, 05:32:05 am
What do fresh olives taste like? Do people even eat fresh olives? (of course i'm not talking about canned or pickled ones)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: William on September 24, 2008, 05:52:07 am
Fresh black California olives in Cupertino right off the tree taste "haarrible". (The taster was from Boston ;) )
They must be soaked in brine to make them edible. AFAIK seawater will do, so they may then be paleolithic.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 24, 2008, 06:04:25 am
Judging from your description above, you've finally managed to experience the "crack cocaine" equivalent  of the raw-animal-foodist world. It took me 3 years to get up the courage to try the authentic "high-meat", so you've obviously got a lot of guts.

Haha, nice!
I'm upset that I'm all out now.
However, I'm about to prepare some lamb heart to make high.
Hopefully I will have more and it will last a bit longer.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: stevesurv on September 26, 2008, 06:40:54 am
Just finished up some two-week old lamb liver.
I don't think it was quite "high" yet, but it was really stinky.
Didn't taste too bad though.
Could it be that only beef liver turns into soup as it gets older? Because the lamb liver was much more solid than it was originally.

Man... maybe it was old enough to have some "high" benefits.... I feel like there is energy surging through my body and my brain seems really focused. Could just be a mental thing though.

Greetings. Was that liver fresh or pre-frozen?
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 26, 2008, 07:23:46 am
twas pre-frozen, good sir
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: stevesurv on September 26, 2008, 07:28:07 am
Ah, ok. Just curious. It's just that some folks seem to react differently to fresh and pre-frozen high meat. Another mystery yet to be solved.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on September 26, 2008, 07:28:40 am
Yesterday for lunch I stuffed myself:

raw squid with eggs, raw labahita fish sashimi, fermented raw korean kimchi (lettuce), 2 fertilized duck egg yolks

At late dinner:

2 latundan bananas, 3 fertilized duck egg yolks, 1/2 guyabano fruit
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on September 27, 2008, 09:48:49 pm
At lunch I had raw chicken breast, liver and heart from our rooster "Oniok".  It was his time. The rest of the family had cooked rooster.  I shared with my daughter half of the heart and half of the liver.

Found a head of wild salmon at the wet market this morning.
I bought it and had the cook make a soup out of it for dinner.
My wife said the fish stinks.
Obviously she does not know that wild salmon smells different.
I ate some fish soup, tastes fine to me, and the wild salmon is fattier. 
Of course this is cooked.
But this is just the 2nd wild salmon I've tasted.

Afterwards I had some chico / persimons.

Then I took out my true dinner, some freshly killed raw goat liver, while my wife's cousin came along and was conversing with me about a new website he needed to sell via e-commerce his new line of shorts and fighting clothes.

Snack before bed is some rambutans.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on September 28, 2008, 07:59:28 pm
Mid morning snack I tried raw goat milk.  That was very filling.
At lunch with my son I had raw beef.
Mid day snack with my father in law was lanzones and chico.
Dinner was raw goat liver and raw goat kidney.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 30, 2008, 07:48:25 pm
Just had a honeycrisp apple from the farmer's market, and now I'm eating some sashimi-grade tuna that the store had on sale ($5.99 a pound! i couldn't believe it)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on October 01, 2008, 05:31:16 pm
Kilo and a half of raw grassfed liver and 1 raw lobster, yesterday. Today 8 figs, tomorrow and the day after tomorrow, only mineral-water, nothing else.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Nicola on October 01, 2008, 07:17:44 pm
Kilo and a half of raw grassfed liver and 1 raw lobster, yesterday. Today 8 figs, tomorrow and the day after tomorrow, only mineral-water, nothing else.

Tyler, how do you digest 1,5 kg liver in one meal; raw meat still gives me runny stools (jogging and rebounding must just push things threw, what others seem to hold back for days?) so I just can not understand if that amount of liver would not cause trouble!!!!

I have fasted for two days, that may not be a problem if you don't do any/much sport...but both times I felt sick when I started to eat again - sooo sick I had to go to bed!!! I could not do my normal sport and felt  -v but I am underweight any way so that just did not help. The funny thing is; I am not hungry and just eat meat and fat because I like to eat once a day...but am always trying to make it work with out runny stools - those eating cooked meat don't have runny stools because it takes longer to digest and has less water perhaps.

Nicola

Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on October 01, 2008, 07:27:23 pm
Tyler, how do you digest 1,5 kg liver in one meal; raw meat still gives me runny stools (jogging and rebounding must just push things threw, what others seem to hold back for days?) so I just can not understand if that amount of liver would not cause trouble!!!!

I have fasted for two days, that may not be a problem if you don't do any/much sport...but both times I felt sick when I started to eat again - sooo sick I had to go to bed!!! I could not do my normal sport and felt  -v but I am underweight any way so that just did not help. The funny thing is; I am not hungry and just eat meat and fat because I like to eat once a day...but am always trying to make it work with out runny stools - those eating cooked meat don't have runny stools because it takes longer to digest and has less water perhaps.

Nicola



Nicola

The 1 meal, remember, can cover up to 4 hours, according to IF doctrine - though, admittedly, I usually take much less time, in this case, I think I took  a couple of hours or so to eat it all. I tend not to do as well, if I eat every single day - I need a few whole days, here and there, for fasting, and I find, anyway, that my appetite goes when I concentrate heavily on some project or other.

I only get runny stools from liver, if I'm constantly eating it all the time in large amounts(a sign that my body's had enough of the liver's nutrients?) It's been some time since I ate the stuff, so my stools are fine. I never have a problem with other meats/organ-meats.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 01, 2008, 10:12:13 pm
Kilo and a half of raw grassfed liver and 1 raw lobster, yesterday. Today 8 figs, tomorrow and the day after tomorrow, only mineral-water, nothing else.

I can never fit 1.5 kg of anything in my little tummy.  Boy, you must really be hungry!  The most meat I have eaten is 0.5 kg.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: wodgina on October 02, 2008, 06:37:57 am
I've eaten huge amounts of liver in the past and you'd be suprised how much of the stuff you can get down especially when your not eating fat. I remember eating a kilo then going for a surf a few hours later. It digests so easily.

I'm addicted to liver at the moment and start off with about 200-400 grams for entre. I then eat about 600 grams of ground beef(which includes some heart) and 200 grams of suet which I don't finish. I'm a lot more active at the moment so I feel I need it.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: seesawsemiology on October 02, 2008, 12:19:50 pm
raw grass fed liver, pork back fat, duck eggs...
ive gotten much better with "bolting" lately and even have been getting into chewing liver a bit which was a problem in the past,i feel great. things are progressing nicely i think.im even flirting with the idea of high meat but dont know how close i really am.  :o
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Squall on October 02, 2008, 01:43:44 pm
I had some two week old raw liver last night. It smelled bad (which bothered the GF far more than me) but had a very tangy and sharp taste. It wasn't bad. I'm gonna have the rest for breakfast tomorrow. I was a bit worried though since I haven't aired it out for many days.

This makes me wonder: is there a considerable difference between meat that is aired out regularly and meat that is not? Is it a difference between aerobic and anaerobic fermentation?
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on October 02, 2008, 05:59:13 pm
I had some two week old raw liver last night. It smelled bad (which bothered the GF far more than me) but had a very tangy and sharp taste. It wasn't bad. I'm gonna have the rest for breakfast tomorrow. I was a bit worried though since I haven't aired it out for many days.

This makes me wonder: is there a considerable difference between meat that is aired out regularly and meat that is not? Is it a difference between aerobic and anaerobic fermentation?

I think that Aajonus said that not airing it allowed the "bad" bacteria to multiply at the expense of the "good" bacteria, with the reverse happening to the meat, if aired. In a way, that does make sense as canned (precooked) goods are the most implicated in food-poisoning. Whatever the case, I have never had the same benefits from high-meat, if not aired for weeks.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 02, 2008, 08:33:23 pm
Morning I had papaya and coconut juice.

Lunch I had raw beef,
raw asohos fish (tasted for the first time)
and raw maya maya fish eggs dipped in a little organic coconut vinegar

This evening I had more raw maya maya fish eggs.  Tasted the cooked version my wife and kids had but I didn't like it.

afterwards I had 2 chicos / persimons
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Nicola on October 04, 2008, 12:35:02 am
Kilo and a half of raw grassfed liver and 1 raw lobster, yesterday. Today 8 figs, tomorrow and the day after tomorrow, only mineral-water, nothing else.

I am still wondering:

- do you eat that liver/lobster and then decide to fast (8 figs is not much but carbs again)?
- do you eat that liver/lobster because you know that you plan to fast?
- why do you do better if you fast?
- why do you eat that much in the first place - isn't it ideal for you to eat a portion of meat&fat every day?
- what if you didn't drive to work and had a hard job?
- does your metabolism slow down when you fast or do you experience any form of detox?

If I don't eat then I have to rest; I am trying this again today (the last times I did feel very low the next day and when I ate meat and fat it made me feel real sick and I had to go to bed).

I am asking all this to understand what drives people to do what they do - why do we do what we do ????

Nicola

Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on October 04, 2008, 07:02:13 pm
I am still wondering:

- do you eat that liver/lobster and then decide to fast (8 figs is not much but carbs again)?
- do you eat that liver/lobster because you know that you plan to fast?
- why do you do better if you fast?
- why do you eat that much in the first place - isn't it ideal for you to eat a portion of meat&fat every day?
- what if you didn't drive to work and had a hard job?
- does your metabolism slow down when you fast or do you experience any form of detox?

If I don't eat then I have to rest; I am trying this again today (the last times I did feel very low the next day and when I ate meat and fat it made me feel real sick and I had to go to bed).

I am asking all this to understand what drives people to do what they do - why do we do what we do ????

Nicola

1) I don't really "plan" to fast. It's just that I get various projects, here and there, so know when I'll be feeling less hungry than usual.

2) I don't detox during fasts as I don't eat the vast amounts of cooked c*** I ate in the past. I don't feel tired or have a lower metabolism(in fact I feel refreshed and have better concentration by far for my various projects, which is in line with Intermittent Fasting theory. It's only when I go in for long-term fasts that I feel very tired(and ravenously hungry).

3) I don't like rigid schedules, so I vary the amounts I eat, all the time. Eating the same amount of food-mix every day  like Lex and other zero-carbers would be hellish and very boring for me. I like variety in all things when it comes to diet.

4) When I do a lot of physical activity, I tend to vary between eating very little and eating a lot - it all depends.

*Eating this much liver is pretty  rare for me, by the way, I just wanted to finish it off*
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 04, 2008, 07:52:37 pm
This morning papaya and coconut juice and coconut meat and 1 freshly laid fertilized duck egg (our duck's egg, we found the nest.)

Lunch time I pigged out on a lot of yummy in-season DURIAN!!!
The best durian I have ever had this year.

And at dinner MORE DURIAN.
Plus quite a lot of raw Talakitok Fish, pigged out on this too.
And then to finish off 2 raw fertilized chicken eggs.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Nicola on October 05, 2008, 04:59:32 am

If I don't eat then I have to rest; I am trying this again today (the last times I did feel very low the next day and when I ate meat and fat it made me feel real sick and I had to go to bed).


Nicola


Well I thought of doing the same amount of days as Tyler but I ended up feeling to cold and having to go to bed or stay in bed - now I had my meat and fat and am worm again and not in bed (but heading for it soon).

Nicola
Title: Re: fermentation
Post by: coconinoz on October 05, 2008, 06:22:43 pm

"Aajonus said that not airing it allowed the "bad" bacteria to multiply at the expense of the "good" bacteria, with the reverse happening to the meat, if aired"

'bad' bacteria + protozoa in an anaerobic environment
   >>>
hydrogenation (saturation) of the pufa's (phospholipids) in cell membranes, i.e. transfat production

such process happens routinely within the stomachs of ruminants (cows, sheep, etc.), so i have heard

Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 08, 2008, 06:16:56 am
Right now I'm ATTEMPTING to eat a raw bull testicle...

not working out very well.
I can't cut it worth anything, and tearing at it with my teeth isn't working either.
I might need to wait and go buy a sharper knife or something. This is a predicament.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 08, 2008, 06:40:55 am
well, I was finally able to get into it.
so right now I am eating raw bull testicle
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Raw Kyle on October 08, 2008, 08:20:26 am
Other members here have said that testicles taste bad, what was your experience?
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 08, 2008, 08:38:23 am
The goat testicles I had tasted really good.
I haven't tasted bulls testicles though.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 08, 2008, 09:32:45 am
Other members here have said that testicles taste bad, what was your experience?

Nah, I didn't think they were bad at all. To me they tasted like kidneys, except quite a bit saltier. Also the texture was similar to kidney, except a little bit more solid and chewier. I was completely unable to eat the outer layer of it though. It was way too tough. But the inside of it was pretty good.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 09, 2008, 09:02:10 am
I'm just finishing up a local grass-fed sirloin steak that I bought fresh from the store today.
It's taken me over an hour to eat it! It was pretty huge and had a nice strip of fat on the outside that I chewed away at for some time. Delicious... it's been too long since I've had a nice steak, usually it's the ground beef for me.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 09, 2008, 02:38:30 pm
I ate raw cow liver for the first time this lunch.

Then I ate a soup of goat's many different internal organs, we Filipinos call this "papaitan" the "pait" or sour are the contents of the goat's gall bladder... the bile put in the stew.  This is a traditional cooked paleolithic meal for those weston price fans.  I wanted my kids to eat this so i had to set the example.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 10, 2008, 07:14:13 pm
Wow! Bile!

How did you like the liver?
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 13, 2008, 04:49:56 am
Raw bison adrenals and thyroid glands:

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm309/boxcarguy07/Image076.jpg)

The adrenals are the two small ones, the thyroid is the larger one.
Adrenals were yummy. Thyroid doesn't really taste like anything but it is incredibly tough to chew.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 18, 2008, 05:38:24 am
I just got in an order from Slanker's and I'm eating ground goat.
I've never had goat before...

The taste isn't bad, but I think I much prefer beef. Ah well, better get used to it cuz I ordered a whole bunch of goat (it was on sale)  :D
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 19, 2008, 07:25:06 am
Just ate some bison heart a short while ago...
now I'm eating straight up beef fat.

I don't know why but I really love the taste of fat haha.. it's just so rich and "buttery" if that makes sense.

Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 19, 2008, 09:09:47 am
Wow! Bile!

How did you like the liver?

I liked this raw beef liver.  I think the animal was young and healthy. 
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 19, 2008, 09:12:58 am
Yesterday I and a friend visited an Aeta mountain people settlement for educational, vacation purposes and they served us cooked wild boar.

I brought up the topic of tasting the raw wild boar as it just came out of the refrigerator but it seems our Aeta hosts didn't think eating raw wild boar is in their regular menu.  I didn't push the raw issue any further and ate the cooked wild boar like a good tourist / guest / visitor.  Very tasty.

This morning at breakfast I had 2 slices of ripe papaya.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 19, 2008, 09:16:14 am
Just ate some bison heart a short while ago...
now I'm eating straight up beef fat.

I don't know why but I really love the taste of fat haha.. it's just so rich and "buttery" if that makes sense.

Yes, I too love the taste of yellow buttery fat as well and it is my defining characteristic which beef to buy in the wet market.  I taste it first.  The butchers now let me taste it and they now know my preference.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 25, 2008, 07:11:31 am
Eating some raw grass-fed bison spleen right now.
Easier to eat and better tasting that the beef spleen I had.

Then it's on to some raw ground beef, and some beef fat after that.

Then I'll be eating two oranges before bed.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 27, 2008, 11:13:23 pm
The past week I think I ate too much animal food and not enough fat.  Seems fish isn't fat enough.  Yesterday I think I had too much raw liver pate and then added raw duck breast for dinner. 

So today Monday I did a no animal food day. 

I had a total of 3 coconuts with lots o coconut meat for fat.
had 2 cucumbers with a dip made of some vinegar, honey, extra virgin olive oil
3 guavas
some graviola
and half a fatty durian all to myself (which I hid from the kids... its mine... its mine...)
Dinner I had sea weed and some vinegar and garlic
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 28, 2008, 06:31:26 am
what is liver pate?

Right now I'm eating a beef kidney...
Oh, how I do love kidney. It's my all-time favorite organ. It's so good!
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 28, 2008, 07:35:44 am
I got the raw liver pate recipe from Aajonus' book.
Blender liver and a bulb of red onion together.
I add some cayenne to taste.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 29, 2008, 03:12:20 pm
This lunch I had a number of things in 1 plate:

Some raw beef bone marrow
One raw goat kidney
Two raw goat testicles.

All were bought yesterday I put in the refrigerator, never frozen.

I capped my lunch with some graviola / guyabano fruit.

Everything tasted great this lunch, no condiments.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 31, 2008, 06:27:20 am
Right now I'm eating some raw bison pancreas...

not the best tasting thing I've ever eaten. not at all.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 31, 2008, 02:25:41 pm
I just finished lunch.

I tasted some of my kids' seared beef sirloin steak and some left over goat meat.

My main meal was:
I had raw beef liver
and for the first time I had raw beef pancreas (lapay)... and I found the taste of beef pancreas unique, tasty and enlightening.

Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 31, 2008, 05:55:06 pm
I just finished lunch.

I tasted some of my kids' seared beef sirloin steak and some left over goat meat.

My main meal was:
I had raw beef liver
and for the first time I had raw beef pancreas (lapay)... and I found the taste of beef pancreas unique, tasty and enlightening.



Ha, so seems we both tried pancreas for the first time, cool!
In my post I said that it didn't taste good. I should've given it a chance past the first bite!
It wasn't bad at all after the initial taste.
Although I'm glad I had water nearby because it made my throat burn for some reason.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on November 03, 2008, 06:22:14 am
I just took my first bite of tongue... bison tongue to be specific.
It's taking all my strength to chew it...
Tongue people, do you find it very hard to chew?
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 03, 2008, 05:15:34 pm
I just took my first bite of tongue... bison tongue to be specific.
It's taking all my strength to chew it...
Tongue people, do you find it very hard to chew?

Newbies should probably cut off the tip of the tongue and the stringy underside of the tongue. I've got used to eating the whole tongue(and don't usually chew more than once or twice, just bolt it down as it's small enough).
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on November 03, 2008, 06:58:33 pm
Newbies should probably cut off the tip of the tongue and the stringy underside of the tongue. I've got used to eating the whole tongue(and don't usually chew more than once or twice, just bolt it down as it's small enough).

Yeah, actually I found that the very tip was the only really tough part. Everything other than that was really enjoyable! Tongue has the absolute best flavor out of any raw animal food I've tried so far, especially the back part.
I wouldn't be able to bring myself to throw away any part of it anyway.

My teeth kind of hurt afterwards though, and for some reason the tongue had the propensity to make its way in between my teeth, moreso than anything else.
But I still have a bunch left over and I can't wait to eat it again!
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 06, 2008, 01:57:54 pm
This morning I had:

fresh coconut juice and some coconut meat
some lanzones

(very light breakfast just to get my poop reflex running in the morning)

This lunch I had
2 fertilized whole eggs
3 fertilized egg yolks only
raw tuna -- this time from a small yellow fin tuna less than 2 feet long.
I squeezed some calamansi on the tuna (calamansi is a small citrus, what we have equivalent to your lemons)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 06, 2008, 05:56:36 pm
17 large oysters  day before yesterday, yesterday 1 leg of lamb and half a venison liver and venison heart.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Nicola on November 06, 2008, 06:49:20 pm
17 large oysters  day before yesterday, yesterday 1 leg of lamb and half a venison liver and venison heart.

What weight was the leg of lamb about and how did you eat it; I stopped eating mutton because 1/2 of the flipping leg is toooo tough and very messy. It bothered me and I could not work out why my colon had to get rid of  ???

Nicola
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 07, 2008, 12:22:56 am
What weight was the leg of lamb about and how did you eat it; I stopped eating mutton because 1/2 of the flipping leg is toooo tough and very messy. It bothered me and I could not work out why my colon had to get rid of  ???

Nicola

I think, with bone(most of it's bone), it was 1.3 kg, not sure at all. I just use a meat-knife to chop off chunks and then tear the rest off with my teeth
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 09, 2008, 01:34:10 pm
This morning I stuffed myself with the most delicious DURIAN! Yum yum.

This lunch I had Blue Marlin Sashimi.

Had chicos / persimons as a snack.

Dinner I had more Blue Marlin and added raw dalagang bukid fish eggs in organic coconut vinegar.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 15, 2008, 10:18:37 am
This morning at breakfast I had:

Mangoes - pico variety
Coconut juice and meat

Then my cook and I went to the wet market to shop: we got goat meat, goat liver and kidneys, 4 kinds of ocean small fish, ocean dulong fish, yellow fatty beef, organic coconut vinegar, 1 kilo of blue marlin.  None of these were frozen, these are all freshly caught or killed.

Upon getting home I had:

1/2 cup of the dulong fish and squeezed 2 calamansi citrus in them just for disinfection
1 fertilized duck egg (I stole from the nest of one of our ducks)  ;D
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on November 16, 2008, 01:05:15 am
last nights meal. I have been drying meat recently. As you can see I made lex's jerky maker. he helped me out a lot by sending the light fixture/heating source.


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Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on November 16, 2008, 02:34:04 am
looks good! are those dried apples in the jar? and what's in the spoon in the first pic?
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 17, 2008, 01:37:35 pm
This morning I had pico mangoes and coconut juice with coconut milk.  A while later I had 2 fertilized duck eggs I stole from our ducks.

Just finished lunch and I had 1 small goat liver and 4 goat kidneys.

Then I peered into what our maids were eating and i snacked on some cucumber slices topped with fermented salty small raw fish (dilis).
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: xylothrill on November 17, 2008, 02:29:07 pm
It all sounds good! I think you've come up with a good tongue twister too: "fermented salty small raw fish." I want to say "smalty" and/or "rawl."  ;)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: xylothrill on November 17, 2008, 02:33:58 pm
last nights meal. I have been drying meat recently. As you can see I made lex's jerky maker. he helped me out a lot by sending the light fixture/heating source.


Spectacular! Perhaps your recipe can be posted in http://www.rawpaleodiet.com/recipes/ ?
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on November 17, 2008, 11:51:57 pm
looks good! are those dried apples in the jar? and what's in the spoon in the first pic?
Yeah they are dried apples. That is rendered fat in the spoon. I put it in a cup and scoop it out with the jerky, kinda like chips and dip. I know rendered fat is not raw. But...

In my situation I can not get raw pasture raised fat. So Lex sent me some rendered fat. If I had freezer storage space he would send me some raw fat.

What do you think..

Raw Grainfed or Rendered Pasture Raised Fat?

I can get grainfed fat for free from the butcher.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on November 17, 2008, 11:54:01 pm
Spectacular! Perhaps your recipe can be posted in http://www.rawpaleodiet.com/recipes/ ?
Ok, I'll do that. ;)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on November 18, 2008, 12:32:37 am
Yeah they are dried apples. That is rendered fat in the spoon. I put it in a cup and scoop it out with the jerky, kinda like chips and dip. I know rendered fat is not raw. But...

In my situation I can not get raw pasture raised fat. So Lex sent me some rendered fat. If I had freezer storage space he would send me some raw fat.

What do you think..

Raw Grainfed or Rendered Pasture Raised Fat?

I can get grainfed fat for free from the butcher.

Personally, I would rather eat the Rendered pasture raised fat over the grain fed raw fat.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on November 18, 2008, 01:24:31 am
Personally, I would rather eat the Rendered pasture raised fat over the grain fed raw fat.

Because of taste, or nutrition?   I'd say both. Taste is so rich!! Grainfed is bland tasteing.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on November 18, 2008, 01:43:26 am
Because of taste, or nutrition?   I'd say both. Taste is so rich!! Grainfed is bland tasteing.

Yeah, probably both. I didn't even think about taste.

While some toxins might be created from the heating that the rendered fat went through, something tells me it's not as bad as the amount of toxins that gets built up and stored in the fat of the grain fed cow, due to unnatural diet and treatment, especially if its not even organic. Plus the omega fatty acid ratio issue.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on November 19, 2008, 12:42:26 am
Thanks for your input!

Another question...

Raw coconut oil vs Grass Fed Rendered Fat?   I choose rendered pasture raised fat.

Coconut oil.. -v  But I do enjoy fresh coconut. Coconut oil by itself, well I never acquired a taste for it. Its alright though. Not really  -v
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on November 19, 2008, 12:58:05 am
Still the grass-fed fat. From what I understand, coconut oil has no omega-3s at all.

Though, funny you mention coconut oil. I just bought some today (virgin, raw) for the first time, I've never had it before. But to me it tastes really good.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on November 19, 2008, 10:59:34 pm
I like it, but I prefer getting it from fresh coconut.

I think it melts at a much lower temperature than rendered fat, and even butter. So you could possibly make it a liquad without cooking it. That would be a treat. Dipping some meat in some warm liquad fat.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 23, 2008, 09:43:01 pm
Today:- 1 half-leg of mutton/plus 5 raw oysters(unusually small, I usally get huge oysters).
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on November 23, 2008, 11:09:34 pm
im gonna eat half a pound of pork chop, 1 lamb liver, and maybe a couple marrow bones (all grassfed). it's my second time eating raw liver, but the first time i didnt really like it. it's weird though, i just got a craving for it the other day. i guess my body needs  something in the liver. also, the lamb liver was only $1!
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: akaikumo on November 24, 2008, 08:14:35 am
Not used to raw, so getting down this salmon outside of a Japanese restaurant isn't easy.

Cut it up, threw on a little teriyaki sauce, and I'm swallowing it in chunks. I also find it easier to eat at room temperature then cold. It works, luckily, since I still have a MASSIVE amount of salmon in there.

I'm rewarding myself with pizza  -X (or, more accurately, inviting digestive and mental distress).
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on November 24, 2008, 08:23:05 am
I'm rewarding myself with pizza  -X (or, more accurately, inviting digestive and mental distress).

nooooooo don't do it :P
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: livingthelife on November 25, 2008, 07:07:58 am
today I had

2 glasses veg/fruit juice
water
kombucha
oregano tea

grapefruit
pineapple

veal fillet
lamb kidney
kraut

boiled grain cereal w/ molasses
baked yam w/ raw cultured butter

no lasagna
no lattes
no cravings
much happiness
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on November 25, 2008, 07:14:38 am
Friday night I ate some baaaa-aaaa-aaaaaad stuff and paid the consequences for it over the weekend.

Today so far I've had an apple, three oranges, and two pounds of beef. Not all at once.

I'll probably have some more meat before the night's over.
I'm headed over right now to a restaurant called Sticky Fingers for a friends birthday dinner. Needless to say I won't be eating anything there.

Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 25, 2008, 11:34:28 am
Quote
I'm rewarding myself with pizza

Ha ha ha, this is so funny... but I know it is true...
I think it is a phase we sometimes go through.
Then after eating the junk food you feel terrible... some "reward" it turned out to be.
----

this morning I had watermelon and coconut juice and coconut meat

then I went to market and tasted some raw beef and tasted 2 kinds of small fish.

I got home and tasted the korean kimchi I bought and a small amount of small fish (dilis) in the new fermented cane vinegar I'm trying out.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Carnál on November 25, 2008, 05:00:18 pm
1 cup 365 brand Italian Sparling Mineral Water.

1 tsp. unheated unfiltered Arizona desert combo camel-thorn/tamarisk honey

6 whole (minus shell) raw (live) local oysters  :P
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on November 26, 2008, 11:26:54 am
just ate a few scallops... they smelled a little different than usual, so hopefully that doesn't mean they were bad. then i ate a little bit of lamb liver, an apple, a cucumber, and 3 tomatoes. im trying to eat a little less fat for a while. i think i was over-eating fat over the last week. i started getting a weird feeling in my chest and slight trouble breathing but it seemed better today.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 26, 2008, 02:10:12 pm
Just had lunch
Korean kimchi and left over dilis (small fish) in vinegar plus raw tuna.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: livingthelife on November 26, 2008, 10:33:33 pm
Yesterday I had

water
oregano tea
kombucha
black tea

banana
pineapple
raspberries
raw honey

macadamias

beef liver
kraut

organic "cheerios" w/ raw goat milk
wheat roll w/ EVOO

I didn't feel so good on the wheat roll at dinner. Starches make my blood sugar spike uncomfortably, though I don't notice it at breakfast (?) I've cut our starch servings in half & doubled the accompanying fat, but I think I'll sub RAF / veg / fruit for dinner instead.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Nicola on November 27, 2008, 05:11:11 am
Yesterday I had

banana
pineapple
raspberries
raw honey


http://tinyurl.com/5jkfq6

Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: bluesandteals on November 27, 2008, 05:50:26 am
Raw organic chicken breast, chopped piece of kale, some expensive olive oil sold in the raw section (it's the only kind that doesn't make me mucousy), some organic mustard, some organic raw ginger.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: livingthelife on November 27, 2008, 07:45:02 am
Today I had

lots of water
1 kombucha
1 raw goat milk
1 veg/fruit juice

1 sm wheat roll w/ raw cultured butter

lots of asst veg & fruit

2 oz raw cheese
8 oysters

Those oysters didn't taste like anything at all. I've only ever had 1 oyster at a raw bar earlier this year, and it had a mild salty taste. These were entirely flavorless. I got them at the grocery store, they are from the Chesapeake Bay, supposedly fresh & never frozen. I dressed them with some minced lemon and tarragon but ended up adding a pinch of sea salt.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: livingthelife on November 27, 2008, 07:45:28 am
http://tinyurl.com/5jkfq6



Thank you for the link, very thought-provoking
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 29, 2008, 02:34:37 pm
I discover and try for the first time raw ocean shrimp and raw ocean clams.

Saturday market day and today was a time for discovery.  With my trusty cook we went to Farmer’s Market in Cubao and bought many new things for me to taste.  This time I had clams in mind… the halaan variety.  Then we chanced upon ocean caught shrimps.

The nice lady vendor said that her clams were already dipped in salty water so they are now clean.  They have expunged their sand.  They are ready to eat.  I asked where they came from, she said this batch came from the ocean waters at Bataan province.  The other kind of clams came from ocean waters of Bicol.  That’s comforting to hear because I don’t trust Cavite waters.

I asked for a taste of the clams.  I thought she was going to get a knife to open one up.  Instead she just took one clam and smashed its shell in a corner of her stall.  I was surprised it was that easy.  And she gave me the smashed shell to eat.  It was pretty obvious that my cook and this lady vendor are used to eating raw clams.  And to my surprise these clams were tasty and slightly sweet.  For those who still cook, there is absolutely no need to cook these babies.  Now I realize those theories about humans may have evolved and thrived near the sea.  With abundant small fish and shellfish, you have an easy and delicious life.  Picking up a clam and smashing it on a stone is so easy a 4 year old child can do it.

Among the many other things we bought I chanced upon ocean caught shrimps. Maybe 6 inches long curved. If you remove the head it is just 4 inches long.  At home I first had a bowl with some natural coconut vinegar to dip the shrimps in.  I tasted the shrimps first and it tasted heavenly plain.  I returned the vinegar to its bottle.  I greedily ate all the shrimps without dipping them in vinegar.

After the shrimps I ate my freshly killed organic yellow never frozen raw bone marrow and raw sirloin.  Then I had dipped in vinegar some tiny ocean shrimp called alamang.  And to cap off lunch I chomped on some sea weed, lato variety, some small and some bigger bubbles.

We put the clams in water.  They are still alive.  Waiting to be eaten at dinner time.

from: http://www.myhealthblog.org/2008/11/29/i-discover-and-try-for-the-first-time-raw-ocean-shrimp-and-raw-ocean-clams/
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on November 29, 2008, 03:21:39 pm
I discover and try for the first time raw ocean shrimp and raw ocean clams.

Saturday market day and today was a time for discovery.  With my trusty cook we went to Farmer’s Market in Cubao and bought many new things for me to taste.  This time I had clams in mind… the halaan variety.  Then we chanced upon ocean caught shrimps.

...

We put the clams in water.  They are still alive.  Waiting to be eaten at dinner time.

from: http://www.myhealthblog.org/2008/11/29/i-discover-and-try-for-the-first-time-raw-ocean-shrimp-and-raw-ocean-clams/

    I love your descriptions.   :P

    I ate a cup of today filled mostly with raw cream, raw yogurt and raw milk.  I ate about a tablespoon of unheated desert honey.  I ate about an ounce of unpasteurized unsalted pastured colby.  I ate about an ounce of unpasteurized unsalted pastured butter.  I shared (with two cats) half a raw buffalo steak which for the first time I used just with my hands and teeth, no knife.  I ate about six (raw organic) cherry tomatoes. I ate one greenish organic banana.  I ate two whole raw free range chicken eggs (no mixing), drank the the whites first then swallowed the yolks.  That's about it.  I felt like I needed white meat.  I'll buy some in the morning, probably chicken.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on December 01, 2008, 09:15:56 am
This breakfast I had the usual coconut juice and coconut meat.
Also had some 2 slices of pico mango.
Also a big piece of papaya we bought yesterday from the province of Cavite.
Then at the end the raw pili nuts came in.
Here is a picture of the handful of pili nuts I ate.
Also a picture if the our hard working maids cracking open the pili nuts for us.

The 3rd picture is what we are having for lunch.
Yesterday in the province I bought a 2 kilo native organic strong female chicken for 380 pesos.  Not cheap.
My mother in law wants chicken cooked "binakol" style.  I have reserved the whole chicken breast raw for myself.
It is a good trade because when cooked, chicken breast is dry and unappetizing, but when raw, chicken breast is tender and juicy.
I also must remember to reserve the chicken liver for myself.

Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on December 01, 2008, 09:35:59 am
i just had an amaaaaaaazing meal...

got invited to an oyster bar, so I got the "raw trio"...

a dozen raw oysters, some raw tuna, and a 1/4 lb. of raw shrimp.

I feel really strange right now though... didn't someone make a post a short while back about feeling strange after eating raw oysters? It's like a buzzed feeling.


But anyway, everything was delicious! The oysters tasted like the sea, and the tuna was melt-in-your-mouth. I'm a happy camper right now!  ;D
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: livingthelife on December 01, 2008, 09:45:00 pm
I feel really strange right now though... didn't someone make a post a short while back about feeling strange after eating raw oysters? It's like a buzzed feeling.

Yes, yes - I only ate raw oysters once so far, but I was so high afterward that I hit the gym for an hour!

Yesterday I had

black tea
kombucha
water

asst whole fruit & veg

raw camembert
raw cultured butter

eggs

jerky

beef liver
lamb kidney

kraut

raw honey
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on December 02, 2008, 01:01:23 am
lamb kidney

Yumm! I love lamb kidney... I'm having some later on today.

Right now I'm about to tear into some strawberries
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: livingthelife on December 03, 2008, 09:08:00 am
Tonight we had a rainbow trout for the first time.

It was a pain to prep but very delicious!



Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on December 03, 2008, 09:21:17 am
What does trout taste like compared to mackarel, tuna and salmon?
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: livingthelife on December 03, 2008, 10:02:15 am
What does trout taste like compared to mackarel, tuna and salmon?


I never had mackerel.

The trout was definitely more tender than either tuna or salmon. It was "buttery" - "melty." The taste was not fishy and very mild, almost indiscernible. The tamari sauce overpowered the flavor. A tiny squirt of lemon was perfect.

Any tuna sashimi I've had tastes "fishier" and is much firmer / fattier than the trout was. Salmon, to me, has a "meaty" taste that the trout did not have.

I suspect this trout was farmed. However, it was still the best tasting sashimi I've ever had. I bought it at the grocery store. It was very fresh - still bleeding a little when I handled it.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on December 06, 2008, 07:07:25 am
Spleen of bison
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on December 07, 2008, 10:27:23 am
i'm drinking a concoction of freshly squeezed lime juice from organic limes, farm-fresh eggs that I picked up at the farmer's market this morning, and virgin coconut oil.
this is a recipe that edwin shared a link to... it's supposed to cleanse the liver.

my roommates think i'm crazy haha
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on December 12, 2008, 03:26:56 pm
My family is in Palawan Philippines beginning today.  But because of internet technology, I have a connection via cellular 3G broadband.  And even though I'm at a remote organic farm in Palawan, we have internet.  Which means I get to keep up with my employees working in the office.  The boss gets to chat with them.

This morning we arrived around 10am in Puerto Princessa city, the capital of Palawan province.

We went to the big market to see the spectacular array of fresh ocean food they have there, never been frozen.

We immediately got organic coconut vinegar for 6 pesos for a small bottle.

I got the Palawan type of sea weed like grapes, different from the ones we get in Manila for 15 pesos per plate.  I got 5 plates.

I got 3/4 kilo of live ocean shrimps for P 180.

I got newly put in the plastic fresh this morning sea urchins.  For P 20 per little plastic bag.  They had live ones there, but I didn't know how to open them up and clean them.

We all went to the restaurant around 11:30am with my wife, my kids and other Palawan locals.  They did not mind what I was having for lunch and they also ate some of my stuff.  This apparently is normal fare in Palawan where you can get everything fresh and organic.  The waiter even asked me courteously if they should remove the shells from my live shrimp.  I said yes and they unshelled my live shrimps and presented it in a nice plate presentation which I took a picture of !!!  How's that for service?

When we arrived in the organic farm, where we are staying, for refreshments they served us freshly picked coconuts, fresh from the tree jack fruit, fresh from the tree papaya.  Ah refreshing.

I'm in tropical paleo paradise right now.

-------------

I just realized how nature spoiled the people are in this province.  The organic farm director tells me he doesn't like the taste of fish that has been put in an ice chest!

(Because when he wants fresh fish, he drives over to the local fisherman or local market and gets it freshly caught, never been iced.)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on December 12, 2008, 03:45:03 pm
On the way to the organic farm, our host stopped by a young lady selling something on the street.

She was selling TAMILUK ... these are mangrove tree grubs / worms / I do not know what they really are but the locals call it TAMILUK.

These TAMILUK live inside the mangrove trees and eat it inside.  You break open a dead tree and harvest these TAMILUK.

You put them in a bowl of vinegar and calamansi (our lemons).

I'm having these grubs for dinner.

I just showed this to our driver and he says he really likes these grubs, says the ones we got are still alive, says when he goes home to his wife he will go and buy some for his wife who also loves eating these grubs.

These Palawan natives are not into cooking these grubs and these are relished to be eaten raw and alive.  And they have no idea what raw paleo diet is.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on December 12, 2008, 07:37:39 pm
    I ate raw calves liver, berries (blue, rasp and straw) and raw beef marrow earlier.  I'm not eating at the present, but Edwin, wow, that is so interesting!  :)  Thank you for sharing.  I have been in mangroves, and saw bioluminescent shrimp, but didn't know what might be in the trees and didn't look.  Maybe I'll get a chance in the future.

 
On the way to the organic farm, our host stopped by a young lady selling something on the street.

She was selling TAMILUK ... these are mangrove tree grubs / worms / I do not know what they really are but the locals call it TAMILUK.

These TAMILUK live inside the mangrove trees and eat it inside.  You break open a dead tree and harvest these TAMILUK.

You put them in a bowl of vinegar and calamansi (our lemons).

I'm having these grubs for dinner.

I just showed this to our driver and he says he really likes these grubs, says the ones we got are still alive, says when he goes home to his wife he will go and buy some for his wife who also loves eating these grubs.

These Palawan natives are not into cooking these grubs and these are relished to be eaten raw and alive.  And they have no idea what raw paleo diet is.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 12, 2008, 09:04:53 pm
That's amazing. You're very lucky where you live, GoodSamaritan. Over here, everything is so hyper-regulated that such treats would be very difficult to find.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: livingthelife on December 13, 2008, 02:10:42 am
beef jerky
lamb suet chunks
grapes
greens
red wine
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: glennm01 on December 13, 2008, 02:43:31 pm
Here's one of my old standby meals. Half pound of grassfed ground beef with AV's thousand island meat dressing, and AV's lubrication drink. Good times!
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on December 13, 2008, 07:55:23 pm
Still on vacation in Palawan in the organic farm.

At breakfast:

Organic Papaya my kids picked from the tree and coconut juice and coconut meat also from this farm.

This morning we went to the nearby local small market and I got to buy some things and ate:

At the beach around 10am, 2 pieces ocean caught reddish / purplish prawns.

At lunch 1 ocean crab / ALIMASAG.  First time I ever saw and bought LIVE ALIMASAG... they are usually dead and iced in Manila.  First time I ever ate this raw too because it is fresh and alive.

In this province of Palawan, the notion of people is if you sell sea food on ice, it is NO LONGER FRESH, so sea food is sold WITHOUT ICE as a rule to prove its freshness.

Other snacks around the day was jack fruit, more papaya, more coconuts for juice and meat, guyabano (graviola), singkamas (I don't know what this is in english)

I feel like I'm in the garden of eating... pig out everyday.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: livingthelife on December 13, 2008, 11:24:45 pm
I love your pictures, goodsamaritan!
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on December 14, 2008, 01:21:22 am
yeah they are great! and make me juuuuust a little jealous  -d


right now I'm eating fresh, local grass-fed sirloin steak
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on December 14, 2008, 02:28:13 pm
Thanks livingthelife, glad you're back.

No need for jealousy... I'll be happy enough to be your paleo diet tour guide if you visit us in our corner of the world.

It is Sunday and this morning we went to the Sunday Market in a nearby town in Palawan.

This time we got some:

clams, small and big

2 wild blue crabs (alimango), a small female crab and a big male crab

a 6+ kilo whole bluefin tuna, not sold in Manila, the major tuna ports export all blue fins to Japan, we in Manila get the yellow fin tuna which is less fatty.

and by luck Palawan grown and slaughtered beef!  Got bone marrow, sirloin, meaty bones for soup.

So my schedule for the day aside from the multitudes of fruits we've got are:

9am, the female crab... yummy

12nn, blue fin tuna + beef bone marrow

in the evening the clams will be ready as they may have finished spitting out the sand from their innards.

Prices... everything is so cheap in this far away province.  Imagine how cheap it is from my perspective, imagine how much cheaper it must be if you live in a 1st world country.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on December 16, 2008, 06:33:26 am
Reporting again from my vacation in Palawan.

Yesterday morning we of course had fruits in the morning.
Papaya, coconut, guyabano
and I tasted one raw duck egg we bought at the market the previous day... very fresh... just like the ones laid by our ducks at home.

At lunch I had ordered and fetched ocean crabs (alimasag)... the other day it was my first time to see them alive, even if weak.  Now I saw them in a cage by the sea shore and they were alive and running fast.  Whoa!  I never knew these alimasag ran as fast as those tiny ghost crabs.  I bought 2 kilos of these alimasag and I ate 2 pieces... a male and a female alimasag.  I asked the kids whether I would bash them with the blunt side of my knife or just chop them "Jedi Style" with the sharp side.  My mother in law said use the sharp side to be humanitarian about it and not allow the poor creatures to suffer.

Live ocean crabs (alimasag)... tasty stuff... just a little tedious at the small claws.

In the mid afternoon I just had to taste my palawan born and fed beef sirloin.  Fat tasted good.  The meat reminds of the traditional christmas ham I used to eat in my SAD days.

In the evening, the farming school students celebrated with my wife and our family so we were sitting at the presidential table so I had to have socials with them and ate 2 pieces of barbecued chicken.  After which I scooted over to the kitchen and opened up a small ripe organic papaya hoping to digest the cooked food completely.  For the newbies... cooked proteins putrefies.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: boxcarguy07 on December 26, 2008, 03:01:36 pm
I've pretty much fallen headfirst off the "raw paleo" wagon over christmas break... ugh.
i don't even feel worthy to be posting on here haha

oh well need to get right back on!
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Waungata on December 26, 2008, 04:02:44 pm
I'm salivating because I'm NOT eating anything right now! Uhhhhgggg!!!!

I had a little over-cooked prime rib though... -\ 
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on January 26, 2009, 07:20:00 pm
I ate raw beef heart for dinner. (never frozen, refrigerated for 1 day)  It was my first time.
Very good!  Very tasty.  Awesome texture and crunchiness.
I just cubed it and used chopsticks.
I had some beef muscle on the side and I felt the beef heart was so much better than the beef muscle I usually eat.  Raw beef heart tasted like it was for the chief or for the prince and the beef muscle seemed like it was only good enough for the slaves.

Cheap too! 
Beef Heart: 100 pesos per kilo
Beef sirloin: 270 pesos per kilo
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: primaD on January 28, 2009, 08:05:14 am
No need for jealousy... I'll be happy enough to be your paleo diet tour guide if you visit us in our corner of the world.
Well, I'm going to take you up on that offer.   O0  Pupunta ako sa PI pagatapos 2-3 months.  Sinabi mo magtitira ka sa Manila, di ba?  Usot masyado.  I'm going to retire there one day on 30+ acres with a farm.  Besides the air pollution problem, life there is soo nice! 
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: primaD on January 28, 2009, 08:40:21 am
oh and i'm eating two oranges.  on my way to the store to purchase raw pork/cow liver.  (whichever is cheaper)  that's all i'm eating today to my knowledge.  funds kinda scarce lately.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: primaD on January 28, 2009, 08:41:21 am
oh and i'm eating two oranges.  on my way to the store to purchase raw pork/cow liver.  (whichever is cheaper)  that's all i'm eating today to my knowledge.  funds kinda scarce lately.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on January 28, 2009, 06:01:34 pm
Well, I'm going to take you up on that offer.   O0  Pupunta ako sa PI pagatapos 2-3 months.  Sinabi mo magtitira ka sa Manila, di ba?  Usot masyado.  I'm going to retire there one day on 30+ acres with a farm.  Besides the air pollution problem, life there is soo nice! 

Hey... looks like someone has a Filipina girlfriend...

See you in 2 to 3 months.

I live in Marikina City, the whole metropolis conglomeration of cities is called Metro Manila.

Yes, too much smoke in the big city, old japanese diesel engines and 2 stroke motorcycles.

I'll show you around my sources of paleo food.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on December 10, 2009, 04:13:43 am
this thread needs to be revived.

for lunch i had about a pound of fresh wild mackerel followed by some lamb fat and beef marrow.

might have a cucumber as a snack soon, we'll see...

for dinner it's looking like a pound of organic grass fed lamb and beef marrow.

im hoping to start taking pictures of some of my meals to post on here. i love all of GS's pics. more people should post them!
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on December 10, 2009, 10:53:41 am
For lunch:

about 1/4 pound raw non-treated scallops
about 1/2 pound raw deer liver (really good quality)
about 1/4 pound raw smelt roe

For snack: 3 pears

For other snack: about 1/4 pound cashews

for other snack: about 3 ounces raw honeycomb
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: raw on December 10, 2009, 12:47:42 pm
to cherimoya-kid,  raw non-treated scallops are available in whole food or where you get them from? thanks :)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 10, 2009, 08:23:43 pm
Today, I'm eating a very large bag of raw mussels. Tomorrow, some raw marrow(2 bones of many inches length(8?) and maybe a little raw wild hare.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 11, 2009, 12:48:03 am
Now I'm eating one-week-old lamb hearts and tongues, a little bit of fresh young wild boar and mutton suet (some new kind and it's very toothsome)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Quinroxanne on December 11, 2009, 03:00:27 pm
Today I ate a slice of bread with coffee on the side for my breakfast, sinigang na isda and rice for lunch I am planning to have fresh lumpia for dinner. :D
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 11, 2009, 05:32:35 pm
Today I ate a slice of bread with coffee on the side for my breakfast, sinigang na isda and rice for lunch I am planning to have fresh lumpia for dinner. :D
You are aware that this is a raw paleolithic diet forum, right? It's just that bread/coffee/rice and other cooked or non-palaeo foods are rather against rawpalaeo dietary guidelines. We eat things like raw meat, raw fruit etc/ But perhaps you're just transitioning to rawpalaeo, at this stage.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 11, 2009, 07:45:57 pm
(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/707/img495911.jpg)
It was in October on my country estate. I was eating lamb testicles, kidneys, liver and kidney suet. The dog got some morsels ;)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 11, 2009, 07:49:35 pm
mutton suet (some new kind and it's very toothsome)
That's how it looks like -
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4952/img496411.jpg)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Nicola on December 11, 2009, 08:47:28 pm
Today, I'm eating a very large bag of raw mussels. Tomorrow, some raw marrow(2 bones of many inches length(8?) and maybe a little raw wild hare.

Is that all you need? To feed on mussels you would need a lot - doesn't that upset your system? Only raw marrow the next day? How the hell do you not loose weight - don't you need more, boy? I take it you can not do much activity - what about working, getting to work... ???
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Nicola on December 11, 2009, 09:19:20 pm
Hannibal, that so called suet is from some other part (stomach?); I got some looking just like that and it was no good (more water than anything) - if I need fat, I need fat; real suet!

You are looking good!

Nicola
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 11, 2009, 09:41:48 pm
Hannibal, that so called suet is from some other part (stomach?); I got some looking just like that and it was no good (more water than anything) - if I need fat, I need fat; real suet!
I tried many types of suets and this one on the picture is very toothosome - I cut it and eat it like the chips ;)
Real suet is probably kidney suet for you? For me it's too dry - it's like a candle wax.
You are looking good!
thnx :)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on December 12, 2009, 12:00:12 am
(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/707/img495911.jpg)
It was in October on my country estate. I was eating lamb testicles, kidneys, liver and kidney suet. The dog got some morsels ;)

nice pic! i wish all lunches looked like that, ha
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on December 12, 2009, 12:26:51 am
to cherimoya-kid,  raw non-treated scallops are available in whole food or where you get them from? thanks :)

Yes, Whole Foods.  I don't know of anywhere else to get them, except maybe certain fishmongers.  They are also known as 'dry' scallops, versus 'wet' scallops. The treated ones are usually a little bit more wet than the non-treated.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on December 12, 2009, 09:31:42 am
dinner: beef marrow and rump roast (i didn't eat all of that). i've been storing my meets on that wire rack in the fridge lately. i think van mentioned doing this. it works really well and makes it taste even better. the outer layer of the meat dries a little over a day or so. sorry for the blurriness.

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2213/food002l.jpg)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 12, 2009, 05:41:40 pm
Is that all you need? To feed on mussels you would need a lot - doesn't that upset your system? Only raw marrow the next day? How the hell do you not loose weight - don't you need more, boy? I take it you can not do much activity - what about working, getting to work... ???
  Raw marrow is very satiating and I eat a lot of it. As for raw mussels, I eat something like 100-200 of them in one go(over 4 hours), and, no, they work fine re digestion.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on December 13, 2009, 09:27:14 am
  Raw marrow is very satiating and I eat a lot of it. As for raw mussels, I eat something like 100-200 of them in one go(over 4 hours), and, no, they work fine re digestion.
You have amazing food sources. Markets here rarely have more than 50-100 mussels total. I've only seen one market here with oysters so far, starting in late November, and at one visit there were just three mesh bags of them containing three each and they're rather expensive. The farmers' market here doesn't have any seafood that I've ever noticed and the ocean is far away, so there's no oceanside fish market, obviously. The only fish market we have here is a restaurant with fish market in the name. Maybe that will help explain why some people use supplements instead of eating hundreds of shellfish.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Megan Megatoast on December 13, 2009, 09:57:52 am
Raw ground pork topped with a raw egg yolk.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: klowcarb on December 13, 2009, 10:46:34 am
I'm eating 100% raw 80/20 ground beef when I eat at home, which is 99% of the time.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Ioanna on December 13, 2009, 11:05:43 am
Yon - how long do you keep your meat on the wire rack in the fridge?  is there a time limit?... or it's better tasting with time?  how about on digestion?

Tyler - stupid question but do you swallow muscles whole?... I've never eaten shellfish so sorry for these naive questions lately re oysters and muscles.  I want to try them though.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: wodgina on December 13, 2009, 11:34:11 am
I bite oysters once, then swallow. But you can swallow whole.

Today grain finished ground beef mixed with GF suet to bring it up to something like 80/20. Just eye ball the mixture to get it how I like it.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on December 13, 2009, 01:14:10 pm
Yon - how long do you keep your meat on the wire rack in the fridge?  is there a time limit?... or it's better tasting with time?  how about on digestion?

well i haven't experimented with long lengths of time because i usually eat it all within 2-3 days. it seems like it would just kind of dry out though after a long enough while. i don't think it would rot, but i really have no experience with this. i'd say it tastes better with time and digestion is the same as usual. overall, i'd recommend it. my meats used to get brown on the outside if kept in the butcher paper for a couple days, but this solves that problem. plus it tastes better
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 13, 2009, 07:41:00 pm
Tyler - stupid question but do you swallow muscles whole?... I've never eaten shellfish so sorry for these naive questions lately re oysters and muscles.  I want to try them though.
Absolutely. I might chew once, if that, but that's all.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on December 15, 2009, 09:02:51 pm
I just ate dinner with the family

1. Small raw fish "kinilaw" - in squeezed calamansi (our lemons) plus some diced ginger plus some diced onions. This is a day old, we mixed this yesterday. Several pics so you can appreciate how small they are.  With head and intestines.

2. Some raw beef brisket for fat.  Not enough fat in the fish.

3. Some 30 minutes later, 2 slices of melon for hydration. (I don't like drinking water.)

Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: raw on December 16, 2009, 12:31:09 am
always enjoy great pictures. thanks to GS.

question to GS,  these fish are river fish or deep water fish?

do you believe that ancient tribes cook their fish if they catch from near the shore!! they only used to eat raw fish, if they're from deep water. the reason i'm asking this because, i'm tired of dealing with bad parasites. i know that small fish are the best. do you also clean the intestines of the fish when you eat them raw? thanks.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on December 16, 2009, 05:56:56 am
question to GS,  these fish are river fish or deep water fish?

These are ocean fish.  Probably near the shore.

do you believe that ancient tribes cook their fish if they catch from near the shore!! they only used to eat raw fish, if they're from deep water. the reason i'm asking this because, i'm tired of dealing with bad parasites. i know that small fish are the best. do you also clean the intestines of the fish when you eat them raw? thanks.

Before humans became "conscious" I'm pretty sure they ate these raw as they got them.  I've seen videos of children near the shores and they just pop these in their mouths.

We don't bother to clean the intestines of these tiny fish because that's the good part.  And I get even smaller tinier fish where it is impossible to do any cleaning at all. 

We usually put the fish in powerful vinegar or calamansi / lemon juice to alay parasite fears.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 27, 2009, 06:46:22 pm
I'm eating  some roll-mops I think it's called(raw lamb-flesh stretched out into a thin roll). Also, may eat some raw marrow and maybe a lamb's heart or too, all grass-fed.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on January 15, 2010, 09:58:05 am
about to eat some wild hog shoulder, some beef marrow and suet, and a small sliver of goat testicle (can't handle too much).
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Megan Megatoast on February 07, 2010, 05:13:28 am
Salamanders.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on February 14, 2010, 11:41:21 am
for some reason this evening meat and fat sounded disgusting to me. the only thing that sounded good was an apple. so i ate and and then felt like eating more apples but didn't have anymore. so i found some frozen dates i had in the freezer (from nearly 2 years ago when i was trying to stay alive on raw vegan, ha) and ate one but didn't feel like eating more. then i felt like eating some pecans so i ate 3 whole ones. that's probably the strangest meal i've eaten in a long time, but i feel fine and full.

it was weird because usually i dont eat that many carbs even throughout a whole two days or so. it just felt right though so i followed my instincts. i had some really fatty pork loin for lunch though so maybe my body just needed a rest from that. who the hell knows...


also, megan, kudos on eating the salamander. that's pretty adventurous
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on February 14, 2010, 07:27:07 pm
Today, I'm going to eat c.10 raw wildcaught oysters. They're not as large as I'm used to, but still larger than what you'd find in a supermarket.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on February 15, 2010, 01:32:24 pm
For lunch I had about 6 ounces of raw grass-fed ground round beef, plus some smelt roe and raw bay scallops.  For dinner I had a bunch of sashimi and a little bit of greens, at a local Japanese restaurant.  I also had a couple of teaspoons of bone meal and some kombucha and water kefir, plus some Terramin.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on February 15, 2010, 06:47:59 pm
Had a whole raw wild hare carcass with some raw suet.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: djr_81 on February 16, 2010, 09:28:42 am
Ground grass-fed goat. It's got a stronger flavor and such a fantastic mouth feel. It's glorious. ;D

Edit: Interestingly our turtle sniffed the bit of chop meat I gave him and walked away as if it's not food. I gave him some beef just now and he wolfed it down so it's not because he isn't hungry. Isn't it odd the food preferences between species? :)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Dwight on February 27, 2010, 05:30:27 am
Tuna and salmon :)
I'm a big fan of raw fishes.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on February 28, 2010, 09:36:40 am
about to eat:

brisket
beef pancreas
beef suet
beef marrow
beef kidney

i don't know how i feel about pancreas yet. i've had it once before and didn't like it much. this one tastes better, but still not my favorite. it's kinda sweet i guess which is nice
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: raw-al on March 14, 2010, 03:24:21 am
Tuna for lunch. Got it while visiting Houston. Delish
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: pc701 on March 14, 2010, 04:59:19 am
I was eating some smelt fish just now and saw a live worm in it. A bit surprised at first but decided to eat the worm. Anyone come across this? Eating some type of animal food and seeing sort of parasite in it?
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: ForTheHunt on March 14, 2010, 05:54:42 am
Hahah, that's crazy.

I wouldn't have eaten it although I'm curious whether these things might be beneficial. I still don't think it is, but will be glad to be made wrong
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: herboriste28 on March 14, 2010, 07:37:47 am
I was eating some smelt fish just now and saw a live worm in it. A bit surprised at first but decided to eat the worm. Anyone come across this? Eating some type of animal food and seeing sort of parasite in it?

 I did eat raw smelt fish 3 days ago...don't know if it had worms but I felt really sick for the all day after eating it. -v
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on March 14, 2010, 01:53:59 pm
Anyone come across this?
Not parasite, but in the summer I regularly eat some meats with maggots. Without any problems.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: djr_81 on March 14, 2010, 07:20:48 pm
I was eating some smelt fish just now and saw a live worm in it. A bit surprised at first but decided to eat the worm. Anyone come across this? Eating some type of animal food and seeing sort of parasite in it?
I did the first time I ate raw smelt. I didn't eat the worm though. After doing further reading on the worms I found they were harmless to humans but I can't find the source at the moment.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: raw on April 09, 2010, 11:43:46 pm
my toddler moonzier gets a very special lunch today. it's all raw veal (contains marrow bones, testicles, thyroid gland one tea spoon, adrenal gland one tea spoon, heart and little bit o tounge with  raw butter ). for the diner he'll have brain with grounded veal and eye balls. bon appe`tite... ;)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on April 09, 2010, 11:50:44 pm
One-month-old horse meat and beef suet
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: biluka on April 18, 2010, 12:58:36 am
Oysters are safe to eat anytime but Winter is a better time to eat. Keep this mind don’t eat an oyster that isn't icy cold.

Cheers!
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on May 25, 2010, 07:07:15 pm
Today I will be eating grassfed lamb(2 large pieces, not the bones, of course). I will also be eating some bananas. Tomorrow, perhaps 10 raw oysters(all huge double-oysters) plus some raw lamb. Yesterday, I had some excellent (30) raw scallops(one of the tastiest raw animal foods I've ever encountered) plus some raw lamb.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on May 25, 2010, 09:19:59 pm
raw scallops(one of the tastiest raw animal foods I've ever encountered)

    Sea food is generally tastier than any other food.

    I just ate a fresh apricot and its kernel and some moldy raw grass-fed cheese.  I have a little bison for later, a couple of scallops, lots of high meats of various kinds, raw jersey grass-fed yogurt, tomatoes galore.  I'm not sure what I'll eat later yet.  Probably a couple of high-meats and a bunch of tomatoes. 
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: ForTheHunt on May 26, 2010, 01:58:10 am
Big beef flank with lots of ketchup right now.


This morning I had a melon and then some oranges before training
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: djr_81 on May 26, 2010, 04:17:33 am
A tasty pile of deer meat (flank maybe?) and some beef suet which sat out in the glove box of my car all day while I was at meetings for work. The deer meat is much tastier this way than beef is IMO. ;D
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on May 27, 2010, 07:08:37 am
c. 10 sea scallop, one 1/4 lb sale buffalo sirloin tip - both on special, one 4" frozen marrow bone with attached meat.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on May 31, 2010, 10:16:06 am
At lunch I had never-frozen brisket, liver, and heart from Northstar Bison, plus some avocadoes.

I just finished eating 3 cherimoya, a mango, some really good Thai bananas, and a little raw goat milk kefir.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on May 31, 2010, 05:49:17 pm
20 raw, extra-large oysters, plus a small amount of raw, slightly-aged lamb.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on June 04, 2010, 08:12:35 pm
Half of raw leg of lamb, today.Plus some raw bananas(5 or so).
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: alpha78 on June 04, 2010, 10:26:04 pm
everything i can do for myself :-)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: pacifica on June 20, 2010, 01:13:05 am
medium sized flank of elk meat, rice, melon
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on June 20, 2010, 01:26:40 am
some nectarines, some bananas, 1 wild hare carcass. Normally I'll only eat 1/2 or 2/3 of a raw wild hare but I'm leaving the country very soon so...

I'm going on an IF routine plus some whole-day fasting for some weeks.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: klowcarb on July 26, 2010, 07:34:23 am
lamb, beef and eggs.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on August 07, 2010, 12:36:29 pm
3 buffalo bones with fairly slim marrow
2 small buffalo 'cube stakes'

I tried ordering cubes so I could rip them apart easy at work, but they arrived pretty defrosted so, dinner. not bad.

I added just a bit of raw fermented sauerkraut, making it the most 'gourmet' meal I've had in some time.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: raw-al on August 07, 2010, 08:50:50 pm
some nectarines, some bananas, 1 wild hare carcass. Normally I'll only eat 1/2 or 2/3 of a raw wild hare but I'm leaving the country very soon so...

I'm going on an IF routine plus some whole-day fasting for some weeks.

What is IF ?

I always heard that wild rabbit is nutrition-free. That you can starve eating it. This was cooked of course but I am wondering what the difference is if it is raw?
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on August 07, 2010, 08:52:25 pm
I never touch raw wild rabbit as there's too little flesh on the bones and it's more difficult to get off the bone as a result. Raw wild hare is much bigger so there's no issues re rabbit starvation. (Wild) Rabbit is not nutrition-free at all, it's just that if you eat a raw, zero-carb diet it is better to eat flesh from the larger animals, as anything rabbit-sized or less will have too little raw fat on it, and RZC diets need lots of raw animal fat as intake.

As for IF that stands for Intermittent Fasting:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermittent_fasting
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on August 10, 2010, 05:23:03 pm
Yesterday I had 20 raw scallops, 1 of the most delicious of RAF foods. Today I will be boring and have some raw grassfed lamb plus some organic, free-range chicken eggs(I generally prefer quail eggs or goose eggs but goose eggs are only available in April/May and quail eggs were out).
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on August 19, 2010, 10:41:49 pm
Yesterday I had some raw, aged swordfish and some raw organic, free-range(unfertilised) raw eggs and some raw nectarines..
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: raw on August 21, 2010, 08:15:00 am
my three years old toddler eats raw soft shell turtle for diner. he's now 9 months straight raw paleo diet and his health is so vibrant!
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Sitting Coyote on August 21, 2010, 09:09:54 pm
It is morning (a little after 9:00 am my time) and I'm eating a bowl of chopped venison with some grass-fed cow marrow added to fatten the dish up.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on August 21, 2010, 11:59:07 pm
I'm eating 1 kilo of raw prawns. I need to check into this issue as I suspect they are  farmed. The only reason I eat such stuff is during those times when I have no immediate access to genuinely healthy raw foods so that I would rather eat raw prawns  than a Big Mac or too much raw fruit.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on August 26, 2010, 11:10:14 pm
I'm finishing off my raw lamb. I'll soon be eating raw wild hare carcasses in the next few days - plus some watermelon, perhaps.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Cinna on September 06, 2010, 03:45:22 pm
Local pastured ground beef with raw rosemary-garlic butter (organic) - super good. The fresh rosemary came from my bff's garden. <D - ooh, I meant to make a heart and I made an ice cream cone. I've never made an ice cream cone, so... I'm going to leave it there. :)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on September 06, 2010, 03:47:08 pm
bff?

I just tried raw red grouper for the first time for lunch.
My Japanese client said those were good as sashimi.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Cinna on September 06, 2010, 04:36:25 pm
bff?

BFF - "best friend forever"

BFFs - "best friends forever"

GF - "grass-fed" or "girlfriend"
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on September 12, 2010, 08:23:08 pm
I had 15 raw scallops, some raw turkey breast-fillets and some raw lamb. I usually eat far more on the day I buy my raw foods(I buy raw meats usually once every fortnight), and then eat less as the fortnight progresses.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on September 28, 2010, 02:04:54 am
just ate some wild boar, venison, goat brain, beef kidney, and beef suet, raw bone meal. good lunch. i found a hunter last week who sold me the wild boar and venison. really good stuff. the wild boar tastes a little smoky. delicious
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on October 04, 2010, 02:56:39 pm
10 egg yolks - 8 chicken and 2 duck ones.
Here I'm devouring duck one ;) -
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/5792/img596511.jpg)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: klowcarb on October 05, 2010, 08:26:35 am
Today I am having:

Pre gym:

4 hardboiled eggs
28 grams Kerrygold butter

Tonight:

1.14 lb. ground 90/10 buffalo
5 eggs
3 egg yolks
34 grams Kerrygold butter.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 05, 2010, 08:36:45 am
why hard boiled eggs?
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on October 05, 2010, 09:31:04 am
I love eggs sunny side up...it's the only thing I still eat regularly non raw (well half raw because I make carefully it so just the whites are cooked)...
Besides good raw meat and yummi salmon sashimi, there is nothing more satisfying to me then some sunny side up eggs made in a crap-load of pure goat butter, mmmm. I eat the eggs this way about twice a week, the rest of the time I just eat the egg yolks raw and ditch the whites altogether...
I just HATE raw egg whites, they are SLIMY, I don't like eating pure slime, plus they have NO flavor, plain flavorless slime, wtf...I LOVE raw animal foods like meats and fats and organs but I don't think I'll EVER like raw egg whites, no matter how long I eat RAF

Today I ate a little weirdly, about a pound of lean raw grassfed beef chunks, yummy
Alternating with a bunch of raw macadamias and pistachios, mmm
I had a crisp red apple for breakfast...
And tonight, because I read about eggs and now I want it - I am gonna make 4 sunny-side up in lots of goat butter, mmmmmm
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: klowcarb on October 06, 2010, 08:42:13 am
why hard boiled eggs?

I love hard boiled eggs, and I can carry these plus the butter in a pre-measured container to work, and eat before I lift.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on October 06, 2010, 01:50:43 pm
Err, this thread is really  meant for mentioning only rawpalaeo foods, IMO. Butter is hardly palaeo, and wasn't that Kerrykirk butter also pasteurised, albeit lightly?

The way I see it, I could similiarly post here about my social occasions with non-RVAFers re drinking sage tea or eating Treznewski(a type of foreign sandwich) but I doubt people would be interested, here.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on October 06, 2010, 02:11:37 pm
Err, this thread is really  meant for mentioning only rawpalaeo foods, IMO.
That's right
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 06, 2010, 02:21:49 pm
eating guavas.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: klowcarb on October 07, 2010, 07:54:14 am
I eat Zero Carb, with a focus on raw, but ZC first. I do understand the position of the forum, though, even though I'll eat butter that's been pissed on before I eat a raw banana.  ;)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 07, 2010, 09:12:41 am
calamansi juice with raw honey upon waking up.
I felt like it.

Then durian for breakfast.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on October 07, 2010, 09:24:23 am
dinner: bison tongue, bison marrow, deer meat, raw bone meal. i've also been eating as much connective tissue, cartilage, tendons, and soft bones as i can. i think it could be a big mistake not to in the long term. i have no evidence, but it would make sense that we should eat every part of an animal we can to get total nutrition. there's lots of bits of tendons and stuff attached to the marrow bones i get.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on October 07, 2010, 09:54:14 am
Today was ground beef day, no plants, boring but good!
Breakfast - ground beef
Dinner - ground beef
Snack - raw aged cheddar piece and a small espresso (I had a work meeting at Starbucks so they made me order it, lol)
Supper - ground beef...then some organic black tea infused with cardamom and clove oil
my tummy feels good, ground beef is yummy, I am used to ripping through steaks and bones the past few days, its nice to eat ground meat with a fork for a change....its like I am having porridge  :)
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on October 07, 2010, 02:54:22 pm
The whole point of this thread is to give newbies an idea of what raw foods to eat, in what quantity etc: Therefore mentioning consumption of pasteurised butter, Big Macs, tea or coffee or cheddar is not at all  kosher, and anyway utterly irrelevant to the purpose of this thread. In future, kindly restrict mention to rawpalaeo foods, only.

Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 07, 2010, 03:26:00 pm
Raw beef for early lunch

Then on to the meeting.
 
Green tea at the coffee shop.
(hopefully least harmful)

Had some chico fruit at the office.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on October 07, 2010, 04:23:05 pm
The whole point of this thread is to give newbies an idea of what raw foods to eat, in what quantity etc: Therefore mentioning consumption of pasteurised butter, Big Macs, tea or coffee or cheddar is not at all  kosher, and anyway utterly irrelevant to the purpose of this thread. In future, kindly restrict mention to rawpalaeo foods, only.

But why not mention raw cheese? Cause it's not paleo? So then we can't mention raw butter and raw milk?
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on October 07, 2010, 04:45:58 pm
But why not mention raw cheese? Cause it's not paleo? So then we can't mention raw butter and raw milk?

   I would prefer all mention of non-palaeo or non-raw foods to be made in other threads. After all, there has to be a strict guideline otherwise people will just blindly post about eating Big Macs sooner or later, and the like.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: wodgina on October 07, 2010, 06:14:23 pm
Mention what ever you want.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Brother on October 07, 2010, 06:17:07 pm
Premium brand culotte (not) roast. One of those keep me going for a couple of days and it tastes great. Beautiful coat of fat.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Hanna on October 07, 2010, 08:12:37 pm
Mention what ever you want.

Yes. Participants should tell what they really eat and not what they are supposed to eat by whatever rawfood/paleo/... taliban. Otherwise the reports would be misleading.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 07, 2010, 08:19:20 pm
freshly juiced pineapple.
I'm in a mall and this is what they got.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on October 07, 2010, 08:22:28 pm
Yes. Participants should tell what they really eat and not what they are supposed to eat by whatever rawfood/paleo/... taliban. Otherwise the reports would be misleading.
  The whole purpose of this thread is for newbies to find out about what RAWPALAEO foods people are eating and in what amounts, the mention of non-rawpalaeo foods is therefore absolutely irrelevant, and useless  as information. It is accepted that we all make some sort of compromise here and there, such as occasionally eating some cooked foods during social occasions with cooked-foodists or eating some cooked foods because we have a difficult spouse/partner or whatever, but there is no point in mentioning eating such dodgy fare in this thread, as it has nothing to do with the original purpose of this thread. If you want to post about eating Big Macs, tea, pasteurised butter or whatever nonsense, then I suppose someone should start a different joke-thread in the hot topics forum where people can report what cooked rubbish they are currently eating.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 07, 2010, 08:37:50 pm
I agree to the wisdom of Tyler's inputs.
Let's keep this thread raw paleo.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on October 07, 2010, 08:59:48 pm
I think the same as TD and GS.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on October 07, 2010, 10:14:54 pm
someone should start a different joke-thread in the hot topics forum where people can report what cooked rubbish they are currently eating.

Doesn't sound a bad idea.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on October 08, 2010, 12:14:18 am
for dinner and breakfast I had 1 large fresh kidney with fat, and .5 lbs of frozen liver, both aged in the fridge somewhat. with 3 large Slankers bones. Still made it in time for Mc Donald's breakfast.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on October 08, 2010, 12:55:33 am

Tyler, since you are the initiator of this thread may I suggest that you modify its title in something like “What paleo stuff are you eating raw right now?”. It would therefore be unambiguous.   

Francois 
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on October 08, 2010, 01:05:40 am
Fine, I will change the title and also add a new hot topics forum where people can list what cooked crap they have just eaten.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: klowcarb on October 08, 2010, 02:04:32 am
   I would prefer all mention of non-palaeo or non-raw foods to be made in other threads. After all, there has to be a strict guideline otherwise people will just blindly post about eating Big Macs sooner or later, and the like.

You are really going to compare grassfed, but not raw, butter to a fast food burger? That is like saying that if I sear my grassfed steak, I might as well eat a Snicker's bar.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on October 08, 2010, 02:14:13 am
You are really going to compare grassfed, but not raw, butter to a fast food burger? That is like saying that if I sear my grassfed steak, I might as well eat a Snicker's bar.
Not really.  The point is that it`s the thin end of the wedge. If we allow some leeway re pemmican or other rubbish, then people will inevitably broaden the boundaries until discussion of Big Macs and other rubbish is reached. Besides, given the large number of people here who are seriously allergic towards dairy of any kind but who can tolerate some cooked foods a bit better than the dairy, it is necessary not to mention dairy in this thread, to avoid it being erroneously seen as healthy. Sure, a minority of people here do fine on all dairy or even tolerate most cooked foods; but the majority`s viewpoint has to be held up, more, for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on October 08, 2010, 06:10:18 am
... Still made it in time for Mc Donald's breakfast.
LOL! I enjoy the humor. Still, Tyler and GS have got a point. People are free to post about their sausage McMuffins in their journals and the hot topics area, so it doesn't seem like an onerous request to keep McMuffins, Big Macs and raw cheese out of here.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: michaelwh on October 08, 2010, 07:45:38 am
The whole point of this thread is to give newbies an idea of what raw foods to eat, in what quantity etc: Therefore mentioning consumption of pasteurised butter, Big Macs, tea or coffee or cheddar is not at all  kosher, and anyway utterly irrelevant to the purpose of this thread. In future, kindly restrict mention to rawpalaeo foods, only.

Today I had 6 cups raw wild blueberries for breakfast, 1/2 pound raw buffalo liver for lunch, and 1 kg unheated honeycomb for dinner. I intended to eat only a bit of honey, but it tasted so good and I couldn't stop eating until it was all gone. This weekend, I plan to buy a fresh frame of honey.

This is a 100 percent raw paleo menu, and is a perfect example for newbies of "what raw foods to eat, in what quantity".

Of course, I'm just kidding. klowcarb's "SAD" menu is much healthier than my example. The point I want to make, is that the split of the "what are you eating" thread into "approved" and "unapproved" food is quite artificial. I suggest we put the threads together, and let people decide for themselves what's healthy. Everyone here, even newbies, know what food is considered rawpaleo and what isn't. It's not rocket science.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on October 08, 2010, 08:03:06 am
Good point michael! Did you really eat so much blueberries and honey  -v  Anyways it made me laugh...
It's so true that I had days where I ate raw paleo but in such horrendous quantities or so badly combined that I should have eaten a burger patty and some fried eggs instead! Raw paleo foods eaten wrongly can be just as bad IMO!

Like would you choose to eat bananas with nuts, or a seared lamb kabob...the choice is obvious.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on October 08, 2010, 08:04:21 am
I'm eating 20 extra-large oysters(some of which are double-oysters, not just one). What are you eating right now?

    Red leaf organically grown curly lettuce, and giving some of it to my rodents (I only have caged) to eat too.  

Edit:    Oops, that looks like I might eat the rodents.  Didn't mean to say that, as it would be a misimpression.  I've had no thought of eating rodents, yet.  I know they can be eaten.  I saw an East Indian documentary where a family lives on them.

Fine, I will change the title and also add a new hot topics forum where people can list what cooked crap they have just eaten.

    Thanks for changing the name.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: klowcarb on October 08, 2010, 08:19:26 am
Tyler, I agree. This is a raw paleo forum. I am mixed ZC, meaning mixed cooked and raw. I should point out that my 'cooked' is as less as possible. Unfortunately, while I love raw beef, raw eggs make me sick so I do like them cooked or hard-boiled.

Believe me, I love raw meats and especially raw marrow! I will respect the rules of the forum and post about my raw lifestyle when I can. I feel healthiest eating ZC nearly raw or rare, and do find pemmican to be a ZC junk food. That said, I do believe that excepting dairy intolerance, butter, grassfed and organic, is an extremely health-giving food.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on October 08, 2010, 09:59:01 am
Today I had 6 cups raw wild blueberries for breakfast, 1/2 pound raw buffalo liver for lunch, and 1 kg unheated honeycomb for dinner. I intended to eat only a bit of honey, but it tasted so good and I couldn't stop eating until it was all gone. This weekend, I plan to buy a fresh frame of honey.

How much does that honey cost you per kilo? And the blueberries too.. I don't know wtf 6 cups means.. Cups could be 50ml-1000ml, but how much do they cost you anyway? Blueberries and Honeycomb are both pretty expensive here.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: michaelwh on October 08, 2010, 11:03:01 am
Good point michael! Did you really eat so much blueberries and honey  -v  Anyways it made me laugh...

How much does that honey cost you per kilo? And the blueberries too.. I don't know wtf 6 cups means.. Cups could be 50ml-1000ml, but how much do they cost you anyway? Blueberries and Honeycomb are both pretty expensive here.

I was joking. I made up that menu to illustrate that a diet consisting of "approved" top-quality rawpaleo foods is not automatically healthy. Local honeycomb here costs about 8-10 CDN dollars for 350-400 grams. If I were to buy a whole frame, I could probably get a lower price per kilo. A cup is 250ml. I've seen a pint (two cups) of wild Ontario blueberries cost $6 at one market, and $9 at another market. But I usually gather my own wild berries instead of buying them.

A long time ago, I ate about 200g honeycomb in one sitting, and it made me nauseous. If I were to force-feed myself 1kg honey, I would probably vomit or get diarrhea.

My real menu for today looked like this:
half a watermelon in the morning
2 eggs around noon
2 eggs and ********************* at 4pm
1.5 pounds beef, followed by some ****** and a bit of honey at 7pm
********************* at 9pm and some more eggs
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on October 08, 2010, 11:57:39 am
lol you censored yourself  :o
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on October 08, 2010, 02:07:45 pm
1 kg unheated honeycomb for dinner
It's definitely not paleo.  :)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on October 08, 2010, 03:08:41 pm
Of course, I'm just kidding. klowcarb's "SAD" menu is much healthier than my example. The point I want to make, is that the split of the "what are you eating" thread into "approved" and "unapproved" food is quite artificial. I suggest we put the threads together, and let people decide for themselves what's healthy. Everyone here, even newbies, know what food is considered rawpaleo and what isn't. It's not rocket science.
Those are not valid points. For one thing, while people make mistakes sometimes re raw food amounts at times(such as primal dieters etc.) it's a hell of a lot more common for cooked food-eaters to overeat as they don't get the "stop" signal early on like people do when eating raw foods for a time. No doubt due to the addictive opioids in cooked foods among other factors. I certainly would find it impossible to eat  a  whole kilo of raw honeycomb in 1 day, so such a mythical example is pointless and meaningless.

As for putting those 2 threads together, it would give a completely false impression. Contrary to what you claim, most newbies are NOT familiar with notions such as that grassfed is superior to grainfed, some even think that it is OK to eat smoked meats(I certainly did for several months), and so on. The other point is that many of us have to make unfortunate compromises such as eating cooked foods when in the company of cooked foodists, or there's the case of RZCers eating pemmican because they can't get hold of decent sources of raw animal foods when travelling etc., or there's the case of people having to eat cooked foods with work-mates because raw foods are frowned upon etc.. So, posting about such here and there digressions away from raw would be misleading unless, in every such post, people always made a note that they were not eating the cooked crap because it was healthy but because their choices were forcibly limited at the time.

Also, there is the point I mentioned above, that this is a rawpalaeo forum, so that people come here to read about rawpalaeo foods. They can always read about Big Macs or pasteurised butter in a multitude of other forums. This is one of the few places where rawpalaeo foods are tolerated.

Another obvious point:- 1 of the main reasons the precursor to rawpaleoforum,(rawpaleodiet) was set up, was in response to extreme fanaticism from an owner of another RVAF diet list who arbitrarily decided at one point that, somehow a partially-raw diet with lots of cooked food was the healthiest and started banning etc. anyone who suggested that this was a bad idea, even though the majority of the members at the time were not happy with this nonsense claim as they personally did badly on cooked foods. I do NOT want a return to such hijacking of a group, as that other partially-raw group I mentioned was a lot saner before that guy started becoming overly  dictatorial.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Brother on October 08, 2010, 03:11:34 pm
It's definitely not paleo.  :)

because bees where not around at the time of the caveman, or? Am i missing a joke here?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on October 08, 2010, 03:25:14 pm
because bees where not around at the time of the caveman, or? Am i missing a joke here?
No, because raw honey would have been a very rare treat in palaeo times given that there were no beekeepers in palaeo times, there being no domestication/ agriculture.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on October 08, 2010, 05:16:53 pm
because bees where not around at the time of the caveman, or? Am i missing a joke here? 
Because something had been available in paleo times doesn't necessarily mean people had been devouring unlimited amounts of it.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on October 08, 2010, 05:29:07 pm
Anyway, we can't eat an unlimited amount of unheated and unmixed comb honey!

EDIT: Right now I ate 3 melons while there's a comb of honey just behind me. It's been there since 4 or 5 months and I haven't yet eaten half of it! I just tasted it after the melons and it already began to burn my mouth after a very small spoon.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Brother on October 08, 2010, 06:26:48 pm
No, because raw honey would have been a very rare treat in palaeo times given that there were no beekeepers in palaeo times, there being no domestication/ agriculture.
Because something had been available in paleo times doesn't necessarily mean people had been devouring unlimited amounts of it.

Ofcourse. It's the amount. Cheers.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on October 08, 2010, 10:09:17 pm
Today:
cranberries with honeycomb and honey from that comb
8 egg yolks (6 chicken ones and 2 duck ones)
an hour ago - some amount of three-weeks-old high mutton
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on October 08, 2010, 11:07:20 pm
1kg honeycomb certainly doesn't seem like an unreasonable amount to me, to have in one go. It would only be un-paleo if you were having it frequently.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: RomanK on October 09, 2010, 02:25:02 am
Hi guys,

I found Ray Mears's youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASIR_WWelAQ&feature=more_related "Headwaters Of The Orinoco Ray Mears S2E3 part 1" wild tribe of South America. They eat palm hard and wild honey. It looks like all discussion around RP food are based on modern idea. From video it is obvious that human likes everything tasty without back-thought re diet restrictions  :D
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on October 09, 2010, 03:34:36 am
Keep in mind.
Like all wild vs domesticated foods, wild honey is healthier, stronger in taste, and has more nutrients.




Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on October 09, 2010, 04:55:21 am
RomanK is right. Every people that still gather wild foods gorge on honeycomb and grubcomb when it is available, such as the "Honey Men" of Africa, who ferment what they can't eat into mead.
Title: Re: What are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on October 09, 2010, 09:26:20 pm
for dinner and breakfast I had 1 large fresh kidney with fat, and .5 lbs of frozen liver, both aged in the fridge somewhat. with 3 large Slankers bones. Still made it in time for Mc Donald's breakfast.

LOL! I enjoy the humor. Still, Tyler and GS have got a point. People are free to post about their sausage McMuffins in their journals and the hot topics area, so it doesn't seem like an onerous request to keep McMuffins, Big Macs and raw cheese out of here.

haha, yeah, I oddly agree that its the right move to seprate the threads I guess into various subforums. Although I also agree with michaelwh that the pretense that something like yuli's menu would be confusing to newbies - and the resulting conversation - is a bit more embarrassing and confusing. I think a little leway should have been fine, particularly if the foods were EITHER raw or 'paleo'. perhaps this will be my last food post here.

Yesterday I had 5 small 2-3 inch frozen bison bones, some aged blackened frozen liver,, some more aged fresh kidney, maybe < 1lb of chuck steak, some raw off-diet fatty cow block and a late meal of an entire Florida avocado with dulse and neolithic cabbage rotting in a jar. The latter is rare and seeing if it can help to gain some weight. I had three small red bananas the other night, still alive.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: djr_81 on October 10, 2010, 02:28:19 am
I had a rare treat for lunch today; 5 egg yolks and a 3/4 pound swordfish steak. I've been eating a lot of suet lately and it got to sitting heavy so I'm giving myself a break for the weekend. :)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Sudeshmishra on October 12, 2010, 05:09:46 pm
Hello all,
I really like fruit and eggs.
It's juicy, light sweet, watery, it quenches thirst, and your hands get sticky.
I can eat 10 eggs at a time.
We have this every morning and every day while it is in season.
Then we move on to the next fruit in season.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on October 13, 2010, 03:59:38 am
I had some REAL pine nuts from the pine cone, taaaaasty!
The pic. is blurry sorry, I am holding the cone and in my palm is the little pine nut in its shell.

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs448.ash2/72179_454267695944_539015944_5463992_7205109_n.jpg)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on October 15, 2010, 01:40:52 am
Florida marlin and Arizona diamondback. j/k I have no idea where the marlin was from.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on October 15, 2010, 12:38:56 pm
dinner:

lamb kidney
venison jerky (home made)
pork stew meat


still felt hungry an hour later so ate a good amount of pecans and 3 small wild pears
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on October 21, 2010, 08:01:20 am
Bison suet, bison stew meat, beef liver, bison jerky.
100% grass fed
all local from wisconsin

edit: this is my dinner tonight, only had a tad bit of jerky, i filled up pon frsh meat and liver and suet, then tried the jerky i made
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on October 24, 2010, 07:33:23 am
bite the tongue that feeds you. or some jazz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on October 27, 2010, 09:36:38 am
I've actually been out my stash of fatty cow block and also awaiting on my Texas bulk, so I've been making due with what is locally accessible and some eggs I got at the farmers market. My protein (particularly ground meat) intake/percentage has skyrocketed.

one dinner here was >1 lb of ground bison with .75 lb liver, the other >.5lb bison with .75 lb liver. yesterday was the the >1 lb which was after my workout and was mega hungry. that day I also had >1lb of ground lamb! and 6 eggs in the morning. Today I had the same dinner but less ground, and only had the other half or so for lunch, with 2 small green pears later as a snack. I'm about to eat half of a large florida avocado with maybe some dulse and laver (seaweed). an hour before diner i ate a few hydroponic cucumbers as an experiment.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 27, 2010, 09:50:32 am
Bought stuff at the market so had to taste:

raw bone marrow
raw oysters
sea weed

had some papaya when I got home
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on October 27, 2010, 10:13:10 am
nice pics kd  ;)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on October 27, 2010, 10:36:08 am
fresh goose meat and organs, goose fat and bison back fat

Edit: i believe these must have been sought out by hunters,

the fat is delicious, the meat is amazing, the organs are fantastic, far from what i expected, 1,0000 times better than chicken

i guess that's wild game for ya  ;)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/PIC_0007.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r85/Junts2005/Hunting-Gathering/PIC_0006.jpg)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: raw on October 27, 2010, 11:52:53 am
fresh goose meat and organs, goose fat and bison back fat

Edit: i believe these must have been sought out by hunters,

the fat is delicious, the meat is amazing, the organs are fantastic, far from what i expected, 1,0000 times better than chicken

i guess that's wild game for ya  ;)

i'm also getting wild goose from a hunter from my country home. my son has already experienced some wild and exotic raw animals.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on October 27, 2010, 12:01:33 pm
how'd you get the goose sully?

i had duck today. really dark red and good. tasted much closer to venison than chicken. also a little lamb fat and venison jerky. and a cucumber. and some figs.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on October 27, 2010, 01:16:41 pm
how'd you get the goose sully?

i had duck today. really dark red and good. tasted much closer to venison than chicken.
Yes , the goose is like red meat too.

I killed it the goose myself. I ran after a flock and hit one with a stick. It fell and was stmbling.
I pounced on it and ripped its head off with my bear hands. It was moving around even when the head was gone. Just like chickens.

How's that vegans?! I guess we don't need "advanced" hunting tools after all. TSK
Just hands a stick and strength.

Edit:Like this: but i used a stick to stun/injure it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG80f3VsCRE
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on October 28, 2010, 04:03:15 am
The last products that I've eaten this day were 2 large ram's testicles and almost a full tablespoon of Blue Ice.
Yeah!  8)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Ioanna on October 28, 2010, 09:14:19 am
i so wish i could enjoy meals with all of you!.. how much more fun, and braver i'd be :)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on October 28, 2010, 01:56:06 pm
i so wish i could enjoy meals with all of you!.. how much more fun, and braver i'd be :)
That's very very very true, Ioanna. :)
I think about this quite often.
That's not because I'm not brave (I'm hecka brave ;)), but because it would be much more pleasant to share these kind of delicious morsels with some other people, see them smiling, laughing. It would really make my day.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Cinna on October 28, 2010, 02:12:01 pm
i so wish i could enjoy meals with all of you!.. how much more fun, and braver i'd be :)

Ditto, girl... to the infinity-th power (I wasn't good at math, I hope that makes sense). That's why I want you to move here - I think together we'd be able to make ourselves braver. :D

That's very very very true, Ioanna. :)
I think about this quite often.
That's not because I'm not brave (I'm hecka brave ;)), but because it would be much more pleasant to share these kind of delicious morsels with some other people, see them smiling, laughing. It would really make my day.

Haha! You are def hecka brave, Hannibal! ;D  Yes, sharing RPD meals with rad-ass people would be super awesome. :)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on October 28, 2010, 03:47:48 pm
I am eating raw wild boar and raw stagmeat currently. May diversify towards raw quail eggs and other such stuff.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on October 29, 2010, 02:58:20 am
I am eating raw wild boar and raw stagmeat currently. May diversify towards raw quail eggs and other such stuff.
that's on thing I def. want to try, wild boar. I never had raw pork. I want to get some boar for my first raw pig meat.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on October 29, 2010, 03:15:48 am
I had raw belly of wild boar, very nice.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on October 29, 2010, 03:26:15 am
I had raw belly of wild boar, very nice.
In the UK, there seems only farmed wild boar available(ie grainfed). The only truly wild wild boar were helped to escape from certain farms a few years ago by some wonderful animal rightists, and nulber only a few hundred or so, so far.

Fortunately, the Austrians still have plenty genuinely wild boar available.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on October 29, 2010, 03:27:24 am
that's on thing I def. want to try, wild boar. I never had raw pork. I want to get some boar for my first raw pig meat.
Raw pork is too bland. Raw wild boar meat has an excellent gamey taste. Only trouble is that my local sellers in Austria make sure to get the blood out first before sale.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on October 29, 2010, 01:12:59 pm
Raw pork is too bland. Raw wild boar meat has an excellent gamey taste. Only trouble is that my local sellers in Austria make sure to get the blood out first before sale.
I bet grain fed pork can be bland, but free rang pork may be a little better. Agreed, gamy taste is better. Wild goose is amazing compared to chicken btw.
There is wild boar here, if you get a small game license you can hunt as many as you want because they are considered a nuisance to farmers and a threat to native animals.

I'd love to hunt me some boar.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on October 29, 2010, 04:13:04 pm
Lately my meat has gotten monotonous but it ok because its tasty, just beef beef and more beef (all grass-fed), cut up in many different ways...
Last night I had a meat porridge - ground raw beef mixed with some marrow and pieces of calf liver, yum.
I am thawing a huge grass-fed beef heart now, I wonder if I can eat that thing in one day.  -\

Its hard to get wild animals here unless you're a hunter, even the 'wild' ones are farmed, like buffalo etc, thats why I am also heavily considering getting my hunters license next year. I wonder if there are boars around Ontario, the hunters license here allows you to kill moose, deer, black bears, turkeys, grouse and waterfowl. Doesn't say anything about boars though.

Would you hunt the boars with a bow? I think I'd want to hunt with a bow or crossbow, a rifle is too modern and I am not a samurai/ninja enough to chase deer with a sword or spear lol...
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on October 29, 2010, 06:11:06 pm
I am not a samurai/ninja enough to chase deer with a sword or spear lol...
You don't have to be ninja to chase the wild animals.
People are the best long-distance runners on the Earth.
If you're in good shape you are capable of chasing the deers, boars or horses down. :)
Have you read "Born to run"?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on October 30, 2010, 05:14:19 am
You don't have to be ninja to chase the wild animals.
People are the best long-distance runners on the Earth.
If you're in good shape you are capable of chasing the deers, boars or horses down. :)
Have you read "Born to run"?

I haven't read that book but I do know humans are the best long distance runners, its just that I have to train up my endurance to run down an animal effectively. Boars and goose will probably be way easier to run down then a deer! The way the deer jump through the forest you can loose them very easy and I think is such an environment there are way more chances of me loosing my pray then making the kill. It would be a waste to go to a hunting resort for the weekend and not bring back any food because I got to tired or lost sight of the deer, ha ha
In an area with lots of open ground it may be easier but with a dense forest and uneven grounds it will get really confusing.

Also even after running the animal down you still have to kill it when it collapses, thats very stressful for an animal, not that its wrong, many predators kill that way, but I actually like the idea of stalking and shooting with a crossbow, a surprise kill which the animal did not foresee  :P Thats the way that jaguars do it, and snakes...I don't mind killing animals but I may not want to kill it when seeing it get so tired after fleeing in agony, and end up sparing its life...when its done with stealth its a different process for me mentally I guess, I'll have to try both ways and see what I like best I guess! But if I am going to pay the hunting fees I want guaranteed food on my damn table LOL ....
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on October 30, 2010, 05:45:40 am
I wanted to add that I watched the videos of the guy persistence hunting an antelope and even he had trouble guessing which direction the antelope ran to. If you looked at the land he was hunting in, it was a lot more open and even ground, some trees and shrubs. Now if HE had trouble THERE, I can only imagine the trouble of getting an agile deer in a dense forest with hills.
In many forests here there is no open ground, no flat ground, so many trees, it seems persistence hunting is good in one area, but for lush forests stealth and weaponry are almost essential. Also dragging the deer back over mountains and dense forest after you ran it for 5 hours may be impossible in some areas.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on October 30, 2010, 07:06:54 am
Eating a big plate of small chunks of fatty lamb meat, I forgot that I left it on my bookshelf for over a day, lol (it was a little old even before that)
Its a kinda dried up on top and a little slimy on the bottom, and it smells kinda funky, but the taste & texture is gorgeous.
Its nice finding meat in your house that you forgot about, kinda like finding a $20 in your jeans pocket, a happy surprise  :P
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on October 30, 2010, 07:40:44 am

Would you hunt the boars with a bow? I think I'd want to hunt with a bow or crossbow, a rifle is too modern and I am not a samurai/ninja enough to chase deer with a sword or spear lol...

you could use a modern spear. It's not to difficult with a dog.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeii7r_ySiA
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on October 30, 2010, 07:55:31 am
I just watched some of those boar hunting videos, it takes quite a while for the boar to die  :'(
There is one where the had the kid spear it and they were just holding the boar by the legs and the dogs were holding it by the face while it was screaming still, and then they watched it die slow, I would just slit its throat with a big knife after that so it dies quick, I don't know why they didn't do that. It's pretty easy to slit the throat with a sharp knife and then you put it out of its misery quick.
All I know is if I hunt I'd want the animal to die as quick as possible! A fast moving projectile seems to be the best way to do that. Either that or you must have someone slit the throat as the other person spears it. Obviously if I had no choice I wouldn't care how I kill it because I am starving, but if you have a choice why not kill it the fastest way.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on October 30, 2010, 07:58:07 am
aww mom, lambs tongues again!

[also marrow]
 earlier I had a big ole bowl of organ dog food with my dairy fat.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 30, 2010, 08:06:53 am
Breakfast with the family:
coconut juice
lanzones
papaya
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on October 30, 2010, 08:07:03 am
Watch some bow hunting videos yuli, they don't always die quickly then either.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on October 30, 2010, 08:20:13 am
Watch some bow hunting videos yuli, they don't always die quickly then either.

Yep its true  :'( , but it seems less stressful/scary for the animal...(maybe I am just imagining things!!! lol)...it seems like the animal is more stressed when there is people and dogs holding it down before stabbing it and then not even slitting the throat.
One shot may not kill it but will bring it down, then in that case you can do a second shot right away to finish it off.
Or if you get good you can just shoot it in the head, that should kill it immediately!  :D
Shooting a bird or smaller animals will probably bring them down immediately...
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on October 30, 2010, 08:41:23 am
although this was done with a gun (which I don't think is bad)...this is a quick kill:

http://www.youtube.com/v/eVI3y29UYWw?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US

and so is this...

http://www.youtube.com/v/CPNBynsVHAc?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on October 30, 2010, 01:42:10 pm
Yep its true  :'(
Yuli, fast couple of days, so that you would be very hungry and I think you wouldn't  :'(
It should work ;)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on October 30, 2010, 10:29:33 pm
Yuli I like the idea(since we're talking ideas) of fair chase. So you only hunt with stuff you can make. I think it is fairer and more honourable to be you vs the animal. You give the animal a chance to fight for its' life. It is dishonourable to kill it from hiding, with a weapon you didn't, and couldn't make yourself.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on October 31, 2010, 06:38:11 am
Yuli, fast couple of days, so that you would be very hungry and I think you wouldn't  :'(
It should work ;)

Of course, when you're starving feeding yourself becomes primary drive...nothing else matters...

Yuli I like the idea(since we're talking ideas) of fair chase. So you only hunt with stuff you can make. I think it is fairer and more honourable to be you vs the animal. You give the animal a chance to fight for its' life. It is dishonourable to kill it from hiding, with a weapon you didn't, and couldn't make yourself.

Thats an interesting point...
When we are talking "fair" and "honorable" it depends what the person considers fair and honorable, their beliefs, but also there is the side of the animal's point of view, what the animal thinks, believes and what it (if it even does) consider fair. It gets very deep when you really consider it... We don't know much about how wild animals truly think about things, we know for sure when they run away they are full of fear, so whatever you do to the animal in "respect" for it, the animal has no idea about that...it knows to try and escape death and it knows pain. That is why I don't think either way is "fair" to the animal, it doesn't see it as fair or unfair, when you kill it in a way YOU think is fair it only becomes fair for one person, YOURSELF. That I think is an important point.
I know if I hunt its for getting FOOD (I am not going on a religious journey, I am looking to kill my dinner), I don't believe in any spiritual thing that happens when you actually kill an animal for food, it's simply that. If you don't kill that one you'll have to kill the next one, there's no fair...jaguars and snakes, other poisonous things, all kill their pray this way, its always from a hidden-surprise attack that is usually lethal, once the pray is already in the wrong position it has already failed at escaping...and if its careful enough it will suspect its being stalked, realize it and flee, if it does figure it out, it can win as quickly as it can loose, because once it flees a stalker predator will not chase, instead it will try and find better cover, a better spot and try the gamble again. Looking at it from that point of view, its the same as hunting with a fast projectile weapon (or playing poker  ???), the only thing like you said, yes I wouldn't have made the projectile myself...( well actually its possible to learn to make bows and rifles, they are not lazer-beams, lol )...but I also use a bunch of stuff I didn't make myself, and I offer services to other people to make them things they can't make themselves, to me theres no issue with that.
So in my view the fair hunt would be if you go in the wild and stalk the animal, the animal has a chance to see/smell/sense you and run, you have to be patient and find the right locations etc, you have to decide which area to shoot in to produce the most lethal first attack. If this is executed well, the animal dies very quick without room for escape, which happens in nature a lot so from that point you can view it as fair as well. Humans use tools, and humans hunt to kill (hopefully never as a sport or any kind of game), its also fair (to all nature) to only hunt animals deemed safe for hunting so not to over-hunt any area. Whether it's "honorable" or not is completely irelevant to the animal itself and to nature, its only your personal belief.
I typed a lot but I thought this would be interesting to consider before I ever hunt.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 03, 2010, 09:54:35 am
yesterday; today pretty much same dif. very organy...spleeny
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on November 04, 2010, 11:47:13 am
I got bored of eating plain raw meat for a while so I "cold-cooked" my meat today (I have these food phases going on from time to time).
Minced raw beef into small pieces, added a very small amount of cumin, garlic, ACV, raw sauerkraut juice and Tamari (you can use Nama Shoyu to be true raw paleo but I didn't have it on hand), then topped with fresh egg yolk and a little flax oil.
It turned out pretty tasty  ;D
I think I will experiment with marinades and dips for a few days, should be fun. I was also thinking of spicing bone marrow and see what I can create. Maybe beef sashimi rolled over spiced marrow in the middle... -\
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on November 05, 2010, 07:21:17 am
more cold-cooked/marinated meats today...having some nice beef marinated in lemon-ginger-tamari, this turned out even better then yesterdays beef.
Next I am going to try some minced beef heart I marinated in my own honey-mustard-garlic sauce! I think am finally going crazy....
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on November 05, 2010, 10:12:12 am
~5-7 Bananas; ~1.1kg Silverside Beef; ~1-2L of water.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on November 05, 2010, 10:36:54 am
i had a small indian melon (heirloom from costa rica i found at the farmer's market) this morning. then for dinner, i had a little bit of pork kidney (did not like), beef marrow, and some deer jerky i made. im still hungry though... maybe some eggs or fruit, we'll see
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on November 07, 2010, 12:20:54 am
Lamb liver, fat from lamb hearts and kidney fat
(http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/743/img638311.jpg)
After couple of hours the fatty parts of wild boar.
(http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5442/img638411.jpg)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 08, 2010, 05:10:26 pm
Lamb liver, fat from lamb hearts and kidney fat

Why are your meat in jars?
What is the purpose?

----------------------------------

Ate raw shrimps 2 days ago with the entire family

(http://www.myhealthblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/ocean-shrimp.jpg)

http://www.myhealthblog.org/2010/11/07/children-loved-these-medium-sized-raw-shrimp-for-dinner/

And last night's dinner was raw horse heart and some raw horse fat from the belly
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on November 08, 2010, 06:03:17 pm
Why are your meat in jars?
What is the purpose?
That jar with beef on the right side and the smaller one with some lamb organ-meats are for my friend who is from the city, where there aren't such good things.
That bigger one on the front is for me, but I do not store the meat in it - I use it usually only for transportation from a shop to my house.
I store the meat in the clay containters in the fridge - one of them is on the second pic
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on November 08, 2010, 06:17:43 pm

Do you eat the mouse as well?  ;) l)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 09, 2010, 08:42:14 am
frozen buffalo bones and fresh buffalo meat. got one of those filament fibers stuck in my throat for the first time in many months.

Tried to play bowling with some slimey meat and it hasn't worked yet.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on November 09, 2010, 10:02:10 am
kd, did you eat all that marrow in one sitting? if so, impressive. sometimes i eat a lot of eat at one sitting but never that much. meat bowling might be fun. i play with my food sometimes too

i had deer jerky, beef marrow, beef cheek meat (eh, not my favorite, lots of little glands. some of the fat was good though), a cube of high meat (beef), and some beef heart for a really early dinner. then ate four small apples a few hours later with some of those fancy raw olives.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 09, 2010, 10:14:01 am
yeah. up until recently I have not been much of a big eater but something must have clicked because i'm something of a furnace lately. I already had 2 medium sized meals earlier + 6 eggs on rising and already hunger for something else. Thankfully i'm finally putting on some pounds in the process.

i had a small indian melon (heirloom from costa rica i found at the farmer's market) this morning. then for dinner, i had a little bit of pork kidney (did not like), beef marrow, and some deer jerky i made. im still hungry though... maybe some eggs or fruit, we'll see

sounds like a great variety. I'm really trying to sample everything under the sun n raw kingdom myself, or at least trying things every few days..but largely doing raw fat. I thought I was doing better with fruits but i had 2 apples yesterday and felt the tired eyes today, although working out snapped me back into feeling great and ravenous.

what kind of olives do you get?

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on November 09, 2010, 10:28:35 am
i get these from the health food store: http://www.essentiallivingfoods.com/olives/peruvian-pitted-dehydrated-olives.html (http://www.essentiallivingfoods.com/olives/peruvian-pitted-dehydrated-olives.html)

they're really tasty and i don't get any problems from them even if i eat a lot. that's good enough for me.

and yeah, i've been trying to taste every raw animal food i can. lately i've been able to get my hands on good quality gunineafowl, pork kidney, beef cheek meat, pork jowl, beef thymus, bison heart, goat heart, etc. all local. i even made a list of all the different raw foods i've eaten just for fun/boredom. it's getting pretty long...

also, i see you have a bag of dulse. i get huge cravings for it sometimes and eat like half a bag. then it tastes disgusting for a few weeks. then repeat. one of my favorite plant foods when the time is right
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on November 09, 2010, 10:35:18 am
Whoa, that is a lot of marrow, you can def eat quit a bit.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 09, 2010, 11:40:48 am
i get these from the health food store: http://www.essentiallivingfoods.com/olives/peruvian-pitted-dehydrated-olives.html (http://www.essentiallivingfoods.com/olives/peruvian-pitted-dehydrated-olives.html)

they're really tasty and i don't get any problems from them even if i eat a lot. that's good enough for me.

and yeah, i've been trying to taste every raw animal food i can. lately i've been able to get my hands on good quality gunineafowl, pork kidney, beef cheek meat, pork jowl, beef thymus, bison heart, goat heart, etc. all local. i even made a list of all the different raw foods i've eaten just for fun/boredom. it's getting pretty long...

also, i see you have a bag of dulse. i get huge cravings for it sometimes and eat like half a bag. then it tastes disgusting for a few weeks. then repeat. one of my favorite plant foods when the time is right

nice, yeah I hear that is a good company. I used to eat some from Nature's Frist Law or whatever, I was just curious if you got the sundried or the salt-water brine ones. I tried some olives form the olive bar at WF - which are presumably not raw - and didn't have much of an issue, even though I think plant fats especially are good to never consume heated.  On the homepage they are promoting wild jungle peanuts which I had years ago and were amazing, so maybe i'll go on a kick of raw vegan superfoods to add to my list.  :) I've been eating [all different kinds of greens (frisee, arugula, dandelion, cilantro etc..), yeah seaweeds (I eat laver too..which is kinda like a non-flattened nori that tastes somewhat crap), various mushrooms, and even some cooked veg that is local or wild] every few nights or so. Also every few days I have some type of seafood or chicken, and doing some kind of beef organ meats almost daily. I try to stick with bison for muscle meat and half the marrow I eat and occasional get goat and lamb stuff. I'm starting on some lamb suet to see how that goes. I've been eating alot of pasture eggs too. Enough to make my farmer bust my balls about it. I'm not sure any of this is necessary over just beef products or whatever but my brain and body and thing that regulates boredom send me good vibes.
Title: My Groceries for the week Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on November 10, 2010, 05:41:23 am
My Groceries for the week!

(http://uphaze.info/misc/food-pics/groceries1.jpg)

meats:
- tons of grassfed beef muscle (i love that brand so I bought a lot this time)
- young calf liver (mmmm)
organic veggies:
- red cabbage
- purple turnip
- sweet potato
- daikon
- parsnip
- avocado
seed:
- pumpkin!
not very paleo but still good, and raw:
- raw cheddar
- unprocessed red quinoa (gonna sprout this and see if I can make anything funky)

The only thing thats missing in my groceries is FAT and FRUIT, however I was pigging out on honey for a few days so I think I'll skip the fruit for a little while.  :P
As for fat, I couldn't get any good fesh marrow bones so I will live on avocado, flax oil, cod oil and dairy fat until I find some marrow  :D
Unfortunately I don't really like eating suet or any other pure animal fat unless its a part of the meat/attached to the meat, other then marrow. Usually I get some fatty lamb or salmon but I couldn't find...damn why is wild salmon so expensive, I hate it.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on November 10, 2010, 07:23:33 am
Do you eat all that stuff raw? Woah you look very different in your new photo btw, I wouldn't recognise you if it wasn't for the name.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on November 10, 2010, 07:27:00 am
Do you eat all that stuff raw? Woah you look very different in your new photo btw.

Everything will be eaten raw except one thing, the sweet potato  :o
Last time I ate some cooked sweet potato and it made me feel very nice, full yet energetic, so Ima gonna do again!

EDIT: yah I look different in all my photos, I have a chameleon face, can do any makeup, hairstyle, color etc
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on November 10, 2010, 07:29:41 am
Do you eat all that stuff raw? Woah you look very different in your new photo btw. I wouldn't recognise you if it wasn't for the name.

yeah, you've looked different in every photo i've seen of you.

you know who looks the EXACT same in every photo i've seen?

hannibal

every single picture, ha. just something i noticed. it's the same face and always a self-shot. i like it. he's consistent
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on November 10, 2010, 07:32:05 am
I should work as an undercover agent, no one will ever recognize me, lol
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on November 10, 2010, 07:36:50 am
Everything will be eaten raw except one thing, the sweet potato  :o
Last time I ate some cooked sweet potato and it made me feel very nice, full yet energetic, so Ima gonna do again!

EDIT: yah I look different in all my photos, I have a chameleon face, can do any makeup, hairstyle, color etc

Parsnip; daikon(dunno what it is anyway); purple turnip; pumkin; quinoa(I guess you sprout that? So not 'raw' but uncooked?) - can all be eaten raw!!?!?!?!?!?!?? I didn't know this! Parsnip, pumpkin, purple turnip.. What are these like when raw? What other common vegetables can be eaten raw? I only knew about some leaves, lettuce, cellery, carrots, cabbage, mushrooms..

Can sweet potato even be eaten raw??

you know who looks the EXACT same in every photo i've seen?

hannibal

yeah he always had one eye bigger than the other and head leaning in to the camera I think. Who is that guy in your avatar?
________

ffs lol, I was just about to go back to meat only after eating anything since june, trying everything I can before the winter... I've fasted today in preparation.. Now I find out all this new stuff I can eat!!!! I feel I must try everything.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on November 10, 2010, 07:46:25 am
Parsnip; daikon(dunno what it is anyway); purple turnip; pumkin; quinoa(I guess you sprout that? So not 'raw' but uncooked?) - can all be eaten raw!!?!?!?!?!?!?? I didn't know this! Parsnip, pumpkin, purple turnip.. What are these like when raw? What other common vegetables can be eaten raw? I only knew about some leaves, lettuce, cellery, carrots, cabbage, mushrooms..

Can sweet potato even be eaten raw??

LOL, yes they can be eaten raw...there is no pumpkin in my pic though don't know where thats comin from  ???  ....oh the seeds, yes pumpkin seeds are good raw, very yummi

I take purple turnip (bittersweet), purple cabbage (semi-sweet), parsnip (spicy-sweet), daikon (the giant white watery roots, has a peculiar taste, kinda like the common radishes but better) then I put them in a processor which minces them together.
Then add some flax oil, apple cider vinegar, maybe some seeds and enjoy

Last time I made a salad like that but with carrots, apples and cinnamon...it tasted like gingerbread man cookie! I couldn't believe I was eating raw salad and not a desert.

I eat the meats separately and the vegetables separately from the meats of course....

Sweet potato is pretty good raw, but when cooked its very digestible and for some reason way better then other cooked foods, I dunno y

The sweet potato I'd eat separately from the raw meats or raw veggies
The dairy fat I can mix with anything, fruit, meat, veggies, it all goes well with the fat for me...
Title: Re: My Groceries for the week Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on November 10, 2010, 07:47:44 am
seed:
- pumpkin!


oh... *facepalm*
_______________

I'm not interested in juicing, I'd rather cook. Though I wouldn't mind doing some sprouting or that kind of thing. If I bought some sweet potato and liked it raw, but felt like I could improve it by cooking then I wouldn't mind doing that. I wouldn't want to start by cooking something.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on November 10, 2010, 07:52:38 am
ffs lol, I was just about to go back to meat only after eating anything since june, trying everything I can before the winter... I've fasted today in preparation.. Now I find out all this new stuff I can eat!!!! I feel I must try everything.

In the winter I decided I'll eat meats and winter vegetables, like things that are roots, and can be stored for a long time over the winter...
I do need variety in my food, not for health reasons so much as psychological ones   l)

ps. yeah the quinoa cannot be eaten 'raw' but it can be sprouted then its more alive, I was gonna try mix those sprout with the winter veggies, it may not work but I like to try stuff, it is close to a grain but is technically a seed, so if I can digest it well or not that is the question  -v
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on November 10, 2010, 07:54:23 am
Who is that guy in your avatar?

it's sean connery. from the movie zardoz. highly recommended even though i had no clue what was going on most of the time as evidenced by sean's red overalls and thigh high boots... and a gun... and a ponytail
Title: Re: My Groceries for the week Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on November 10, 2010, 08:06:21 am
I'm not interested in juicing, I'd rather cook. Though I wouldn't mind doing some sprouting or that kind of thing. If I bought some sweet potato and liked it raw, but felt like I could improve it by cooking then I wouldn't mind doing that. I wouldn't want to start by cooking something.

I don't like juicing either, it feels I am consuming an unnatural amount of veggies if I juice, I just use a food processor to mince it finely, that way you can create good flavors but still eat the whole vegetable, so you'll know when you had enough or if you shouldn't eat a particular veggie!
The sweet potato is really good both ways, I had it raw and cooked and it was tasty, it tastes very much the same raw except its harder and more starchy, I notice after cooking it its just as good but the starchy-ness is gone, if that makes any sense...
All the other roots (parsnips, turnips, daikons) are WAAAYY better raw! The sweet potato is the only one I found improves much.
I am a fan of 3 types of foods now:
- raw red MEAT
- raw ROOTS
- raw HONEY (or as raw as I can buy it)
Those seem to be the foods I am inclined to eat in the winter
In the sumer I love raw fish and fruit...interesting
Title: Re: My Groceries for the week Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ForTheHunt on November 10, 2010, 09:10:23 am
My Groceries for the week!

(http://uphaze.info/misc/food-pics/groceries1.jpg)

meats:
- tons of grassfed beef muscle (i love that brand so I bought a lot this time)
- young calf liver (mmmm)
organic veggies:
- red cabbage
- purple turnip
- sweet potato
- daikon
- parsnip
- avocado
seed:
- pumpkin!
not very paleo but still good, and raw:
- raw cheddar
- unprocessed red quinoa (gonna sprout this and see if I can make anything funky)

The only thing thats missing in my groceries is FAT and FRUIT, however I was pigging out on honey for a few days so I think I'll skip the fruit for a little while.  :P
As for fat, I couldn't get any good fesh marrow bones so I will live on avocado, flax oil, cod oil and dairy fat until I find some marrow  :D
Unfortunately I don't really like eating suet or any other pure animal fat unless its a part of the meat/attached to the meat, other then marrow. Usually I get some fatty lamb or salmon but I couldn't find...damn why is wild salmon so expensive, I hate it.


That is some nice food. Do you eat it all raw? How does that work out for you

Also miles, I'm pretty sure that other picture was just something she found off the internet. Although I like this one more. :)
Title: Re: My Groceries for the week Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on November 10, 2010, 09:39:35 am
That is some nice food. Do you eat it all raw? How does that work out for you

Also miles, I'm pretty sure that other picture was just something she found off the internet. Although I like this one more. :)

Yes all raw! Except the sweet potato which I am probably going to lightly cook...
I just tasted that beef I bought and its really splendid, when its good un-aged then its really good  :)

No the other picture was me too, I swear, it was just a professional photo...

here is a compilation of me...do I really look that different in all the pics? lol (in the shiny dress photo I am as drunk as can possibly be so I do look different there)
PS, I do notice I looked the same at 20 as I do at 27, thats cool, hopefully by eating a (for the most part) raw diet I will look good in older years  ;D

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1146.snc4/148893_467108180944_539015944_5683777_6323609_n.jpg)



Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now!
Post by: KD on November 10, 2010, 10:46:08 am
5 lambs tongues, lamb suet and some rb.
earlier had some buffalo meat and the remaining suet (somewhat packed into a 16 fluid oz jar..not sure how much that is by weight..but pretty filling)

never knew you could change the topic headings..
Title: Re: My Groceries for the week Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 10, 2010, 10:59:09 am
Yes all raw! Except the sweet potato which I am probably going to lightly cook...
I just tasted that beef I bought and its really splendid, when its good un-aged then its really good  :)

No the other picture was me too, I swear, it was just a professional photo...

here is a compilation of me...do I really look that different in all the pics? lol (in the shiny dress photo I am as drunk as can possibly be so I do look different there)
PS, I do notice I looked the same at 20 as I do at 27, thats cool, hopefully by eating a (for the most part) raw diet I will look good in older years  ;D

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1146.snc4/148893_467108180944_539015944_5683777_6323609_n.jpg)





I'm the dumb guy who can't recognize models in a woman's magazine and I can't pin down your real look in the photos.  Maybe have to stare at it longer.

Is that your baby?  What's her name?
Title: Re: My Groceries for the week Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on November 10, 2010, 12:02:15 pm
I'm the dumb guy who can't recognize models in a woman's magazine and I can't pin down your real look in the photos.  Maybe have to stare at it longer.

Is that your baby?  What's her name?

All of those are my "real" looks, I have a lot of styles/clothes and I like to be like chameleon lol - i guess keep staring at it and you'll get it -  O0
That's my friend's kid, she is awesome, for Halloween we took 2 of our friend's little girls Trick or Treating, they're both so cute, one was dressed as a princess and the other was a cow...she had the real cow body suit, lol...the girl in the pic is named Dakota
Kids are fun at that age...
Title: Re: My Groceries for the week Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on November 10, 2010, 12:23:15 pm
"..."+(Pictures)

............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I must admit I have a crush on Yuli xD
___________

Ha I can see they're all you but they still look really different! But the new avatar looks SO different! Your old avatar looked so 'smooth' it was almost like CGI, like out of final fantasy or something. Your meat-eating pics reminded me of Uma Thurman, but you looked better ofc! Your butcher shop one and the bottom middle kind of look similar to the meat-eating ones, but then the bottom middle kind of looks like the top right one, but that top right one looks a lot like the bottom right one. The top left one only looks like the bottom middle one, and kind of reminds me of the girl from 'space channel 5'. So in none of the pictures do you look the same as in all of the pictures, but in all of the pictures you look the same as in some of the pictures =p If you were working under-cover you would have to change your looks in the right sequence so that they couldn't be linked.

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now!
Post by: yuli on November 10, 2010, 12:27:13 pm
5 lambs tongues, lamb suet and some rb.
earlier had some buffalo meat and the remaining suet (somewhat packed into a 16 fluid oz jar..not sure how much that is by weight..but pretty filling)

never knew you could change the topic headings..

are those chikn' legs? I can never eat those raw...but those do look nice and reddish compared to the freaky yellowish-white chicken.
whats the yellow stuff? and whats "rb."?

yes you can not only change the heading but the message icon too, woohoo
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 10, 2010, 12:34:07 pm
are those chikn' legs? I can never eat those raw...but those do look nice and reddish compared to the freaky yellowish-white chicken.
whats the yellow stuff? and whats "rb."?

yes you can not only change the heading but the message icon too, woohoo

its individual lambs tongues. check out the file name as well :)

I do eat chicken legs sometimes. kind of fun. I'm partial to being able to take repeated bites off something while just using one hand without a plate. I'd like to get one of those whole mutton bones like a caveman stereotype.

your pic with the kid (Is that the newest?) looks great.  less blood in it but more life. The old avatar was pretty ethereal, but you look like a nice looking human here.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on November 10, 2010, 12:52:46 pm
its individual lambs tongues. check out the file name as well :)

wow they are shaped like drumsticks! Nice filename, lucky lamb... -\

your pic with the kid (Is that the newest?) looks great.  less blood in it but more life. The old avatar was pretty ethereal, but you look like a nice looking human here.

EDIT: yep that ones from this Halloween...the youngest one is the final fantasy one, the rest is mixed ages in between

I think its just different types of photography, lighting & makeup can change a lot...looking human is definitely something to strive for  :D

...........Your butcher shop one and the bottom middle kind of look similar to the meat-eating ones, but then the bottom middle kind of looks like the top right one, but that top right one looks a lot like the bottom right one. The top left one only looks like the bottom middle one, and kind of reminds me of the girl from 'space channel 5'. So in none of the pictures do you look the same as in all of the pictures, but in all of the pictures you look the same as in some of the pictures =p If you were working under-cover you would have to change your looks in the right sequence so that they couldn't be linked.

wow, what a paradox, reading that made my eyes go crossed...makes me want to work undercover, maybe in my spare time?  -\
As you said I have to figure out the correct sequencing, maybe I'll be like the alien from American Dad, you know, pretend undercover (just kidding)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 10, 2010, 01:06:34 pm
wow they are shaped like drumsticks! Nice filename, lucky lamb... -\

EDIT: yep that ones from this Halloween...the youngest one is the final fantasy one, the rest is mixed ages in between

I think its just different types of photography, lighting & makeup can change a lot...looking human is definitely something to strive for  :D

lamb(s)
 it was an orgy.
I had the same thing a little bit back..heres a better shot I guess of what they look like:
http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/off-topic/what-are-you-eating-right-now/msg51511/#msg51511

I used to work in fashion stuff in NYC. you are a pretty girl obviously, but it looks like you can maybe kick some ass now too
and make a kid smile.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 10, 2010, 01:23:31 pm
Hey KD,

How about posting some of your muscle bound pics a la Yuli so we can make raw meat eating cool.

Something like: Raw meat is good for you (pics of KD below), Raw meat is good for you (pics of Yuli below)

Or others out there who want to be raw paleo diet models.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 10, 2010, 01:43:50 pm
Hey KD,

How about posting some of your muscle bound pics a la Yuli so we can make raw meat eating cool.

Something like: Raw meat is good for you (pics of KD below), Raw meat is good for you (pics of Yuli below)

Or others out there who want to be raw paleo diet models.

heh, I have some absolutely horrendous RV pics I could post but I dunno something tells me no good would come of this for me. I certainly have posted many pics already throughout the site for people to find..some new ones on hunter gather physiques thread...but I dunno. Specifically being a posterboy for any WOE at the moment kind of freaks me out I think right now, but yeah maybe. Its a flattering idea to be matched with yuli but I would probably be more interested in participating with others involved as well. There doesn't seem to be a shortage of fit, healthy looking people here. Isn't there another shy-ish girl here that does modeling? :) :) and a triathlete? I think on top of the before after thing..there could just be a single thread for people to post photos. called sexy meatheads or something.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on November 10, 2010, 05:33:38 pm
you know who looks the EXACT same in every photo i've seen?

hannibal

every single picture, ha. just something i noticed. it's the same face and always a self-shot. i like it. he's consistent
yeah he always had one eye bigger than the other and head leaning in to the camera I think.
haha ;)
what about my new avatar?
do I look also exactly the same? :)

Re food that I'm eating right now - Jonathan apples from my orchard; about 1 kg
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 10, 2010, 06:40:17 pm
Nice pic Hannibal,

Maybe you can compose a collage of pics like Yuli's.

We can have a mr. and ms. raw paleo dieter.

P.S. I had horse muscle and fat at lunch.
Title: Re: My Groceries for the week Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on November 10, 2010, 07:19:45 pm
Yes all raw! Except the sweet potato which I am probably going to lightly cook...

Sweet potatoes (pink variety) are tasty and very sweet raw.

Quote
I do notice I looked the same at 20 as I do at 27, thats cool, hopefully by eating a (for the most part) raw diet I will look good in older years  ;D

Yes, sure, I know a few women long time instincto RPDers who look amazingly young for their age: it seems they don't age at all, or very slowly. And in one month only of RPD, my ex-wife got at least 6 years or more younger, back from 31 to 25 or rather even less.

You are beautiful and lovely, even when drunk... wow!  :-* :-*


Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on November 10, 2010, 07:56:28 pm
Maybe you can compose a collage of pics like Yuli's.
OK ;)
(http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/3519/img591111.jpg)

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9984/img543611.jpg)

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8320/img5472111.jpg)

(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/300/img593911.jpg)
with my two younger cousins

(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/1820/img607511.jpg)

(http://img574.imageshack.us/img574/1606/img609211.jpg)

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8357/img617311.jpg)

and that's a pic, which Ioanna likes ;) -
(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5612/img604611.jpg)

and last but not least...
almost half a year old Hannibal ;)
(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/846/img635231.jpg)
with my aunt
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on November 10, 2010, 08:49:42 pm
Not what I'm eating right now, but what I'm gonna eat very soon:

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/333819P1020013.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/582580P1020014.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/428859P1020017.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/282836P1020018.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/227900P1020019.jpg)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on November 10, 2010, 09:06:29 pm
Iguana, is it wild boar meat?
Are you gonna keep it all in the fridge? Meat with the bones will become high quite quickly ;)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on November 10, 2010, 09:11:36 pm
I'll eat it first.

Yes, wild boar and moufflon (bighorn).
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ForTheHunt on November 10, 2010, 09:17:39 pm
I'll eat it first.

Yes, wild boar and moufflon (bighorn).

Damn even a brain. Nice.

Although I'm pretty sure this will be high as hell once you get around to finishing it
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on November 10, 2010, 09:21:05 pm

Yes, but I like it high! And since I've been without meat for the last few days, I think I'm gonna eat quite a lot of it quickly!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ForTheHunt on November 10, 2010, 09:26:30 pm
Yes, but I like it high! And since I've been without meat for the last few days, I think I'm gonna eat quite a lot of it quickly!

Hehe ok cool man
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on November 10, 2010, 09:30:10 pm
Hehe, there isn't any high meat that I wouldn't eat. Even totally decomposed, that hyenas, vultures or crows wouldn't touch ;)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now? The Breakfast Club
Post by: KD on November 10, 2010, 10:35:07 pm
Something like: Raw meat is good for you (pics of KD below), Raw meat is good for you (pics of Yuli below)

Or others out there who want to be raw paleo diet models.

Its a flattering idea to be matched with yuli but I would probably be more interested in participating with others involved as well. There doesn't seem to be a shortage of fit, healthy looking people here. Isn't there another shy-ish girl here that does modeling? :) :) and a triathlete? I think on top of the before after thing..there could just be a single thread for people to post photos. called sexy meatheads or something.

and theres that cute homeless boy that runs up walls
the hindu squatter
the dreamy/dreamer belly dancer
a 60 year old barefoot heartthrob
a black piste skier
the big game hunter
a judo carnivore
ZC lady lifter
the tennis player
mind expansionist electrician
Denmark physical culturist
Long Island MMA crusher
Pacific North West goddess
The world traveler.
a shredded shredding guitar god
and the cig smoking rugged pemmican eating individualist.
and Nicole


it's like the Breakfast Club. ooh good title. ooh a lamp icon.

[and everyone else of course. I apologize in advance. I'm sure some folks were left out, most people that don't have fresh pics or just slipped my mind]
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on November 10, 2010, 11:30:08 pm
what about my new avatar?
do I look also exactly the same? :)

pretty much, ya

ha, and you're picture collage proved it even more!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on November 10, 2010, 11:46:55 pm
ha, and you're picture collage proved it even more!
IMO it's good :)
But... half a year old Hannibal was rather different from 26 year old one ;)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 11, 2010, 12:56:30 am
So what does moufflon taste like and where did you get it from ?

Also,I am  a bit surprised that the wild boar wasn't as dark red as I thought it should be. The raw wild game I get(wild mallard duck and wild hare carcass) is so dark red, without the skin, it's almost purple.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on November 11, 2010, 01:18:40 am
Iguana, did your fridge come with those racks that you can put hooks on, or did you buy them separate? If the latter, where did you get them?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on November 11, 2010, 01:44:03 am
Tyler, the moufflon (and wid boar also) comes from a friend hunter of my department http://www.frc-midipyrenees.fr/Mouflon .
The taste is, if I remember from the last time I got some (because I ate a piece of wild boar tonight) is not very different from mutton, but more on the wild side.

Phil, this is an old fridge (you can see some rust spots at the bottom on which I put rust converter  and thus it got black)  which I keep exclusively for the meat. I did put out the vegetable  case at the bottom and doubled the rack on top for strength (as you can see), it’s the racks that were inside at the origin. The down rack is form another old fridge: it was too wide and I had to saw it at the proper width. Check at a “fridge junkyard” somewhere,  you may find some racks!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: raw on November 11, 2010, 02:53:46 am
Not what I'm eating right now, but what I'm gonna eat very soon:

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/333819P1020013.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/582580P1020014.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/428859P1020017.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/282836P1020018.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/227900P1020019.jpg)
Very nice pictures.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 11, 2010, 03:01:06 am
Umm, when quoting past posts in which there are just a lot of photos, I reckon it would be a good idea to just include 1 of the photos in a quoted passage in future. Otherwise a lot of needless scrolling is involved, and usually the reader will have already seen the previous photos anyway in the original post.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on November 11, 2010, 03:22:05 am
...We can have a mr. and ms. raw paleo dieter....

heh heh GS you're like the chief raw paleo matchmaker, its official!  :P

what about my new avatar?
do I look also exactly the same? :)

You look the most "normal" in your recent avatar but i like the one eye closed, crazy Hanibal pictures! Its like your signature look, think about it you can become a famous model and that will be your signature look man! Practice and perfect it, don't hide it, thats what I say.

Hehe, there isn't any high meat that I wouldn't eat. Even totally decomposed, that hyenas, vultures or crows wouldn't touch ;)

You are a hyena reincarnated as a human, for sure.

Yes, sure, I know a few women long time instincto RPDers who look amazingly young for their age: it seems they don't age at all, or very slowly. And in one month only of RPD, my ex-wife got at least 6 years or more younger, back from 31 to 25 or rather even less...

That is amazing! I also notice women can look younger and older depending on the day and what they did the day before ha ha...
Thats some nice meat in your fridge, and you can actually buy brain, I'm jealous.

(....)...it's like the Breakfast Club. ooh good title. ooh a lamp icon.

Such interesting characters, we could all star in a movie, just imagine the crazy script we could make

Umm, when quoting past posts in which there are just a lot of photos, I reckon it would be a good idea to just include 1 of the photos in a quoted passage in future. Otherwise a lot of needless scrolling is involved, and usually the reader will have already seen the previous photos anyway in the original post.

I am so thankful that you said that!!! I was gonna say something but figured I better not...
In case people don't know, when you quote someone you can edit the text in the
Quote
[ quote ]..[ / quote ] 
marks so you don't end up quoting everything they posted.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on November 11, 2010, 05:18:09 am
You look the most "normal" in your recent avatar but i like the one eye closed, crazy Hanibal pictures! Its like your signature look, think about it you can become a famous model and that will be your signature look man! Practice and perfect it, don't hide it, thats what I say.
Thnx :)
Look at my new avatar ;)
Quote
You are a hyena reincarnated as a human, for sure.
Definitely  8)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on November 11, 2010, 05:22:30 am
Iguana: WOW, that boar looks amazing. I guess I need to get my shit together and take you up on your offer to visit... nice meat locker by the way.

and to keep it on topic:

Lunch: deer jerky, eggs, lamb fat

Dinner: I'm going out to eat with some friends and family for my belated birthday dinner at a raw bar. probably getting oysters, ceviche, and maybe raw scallops. or tartare! check out the menu - http://www.parkside-austin.com/menus/Main_Menu.pdf (http://www.parkside-austin.com/menus/Main_Menu.pdf)  really expensive but i only do this once a year so might as well indulge! (plus my parents are buying, ha)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on November 11, 2010, 05:37:48 am
wow, iguana that meat looks deep red, nice
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Post by: PaleoPhil on November 11, 2010, 06:14:11 am
Thanks for the idea, Iguana. Maybe I could also put stick-up hooks in the fridge to attach the meat hooks to.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on November 11, 2010, 06:47:30 am

Thnx :)
Look at my new avatar ;)Definitely  8)

Your new avatar looks awesome, there is great lighting on your face and you have "the eye" look done perfectly.

You remind me of the character Cho Sawagejo from the anime Rurouni Kenshin! He has the eye look look/style as well:

(http://mangacube.com/characters/images/characters/cho.png)

(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/39189/968695-cho_sawagejo__hagujin_no_tachi_large.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/it/thumb/f/f0/Chochow.jpg/280px-Chochow.jpg)

Dinner: I'm going out to eat with some friends and family for my belated birthday dinner at a raw bar. probably getting oysters, ceviche, and maybe raw scallops. or tartare! check out the menu - http://www.parkside-austin.com/menus/Main_Menu.pdf (http://www.parkside-austin.com/menus/Main_Menu.pdf)  really expensive but i only do this once a year so might as well indulge! (plus my parents are buying, ha)

Lucky you! The only raw restaurant fare I had lately was sashimi...but I was thinking of going to an Ethiopian restaurant to try their Kitfo (ketfo)...a steak tar tar style dish with their special spicy herb mix called mitmita, and niter kibeh  (a clarified butter infused with herbs and spices) people say that its amazing.

Sometimes they cook the Kitfo but originaly its supposed to be served raw, in the restaurants it usually is but you have to ask them just in case.

"mmmm!"

(http://www.bernos.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/kifo.jpg)

Back on topic:
I ate large salad of minced purple turnip, purple cabbage, daikon and parsnip with fresh ground cumin, ACV, flax oil and a little grated raw cheese (would be more paleo w/o it).
For my late night finner it will be beef chunks with liver, I have it sitting out in my room now becoming room temperature (=
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on November 11, 2010, 01:11:00 pm
Its like your signature look, think about it you can become a famous model and that will be your signature look man!

Blue Hannibal.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on November 12, 2010, 12:29:05 am
Delicious one-week-old lamb tongues couple of hours ago -
(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/2231/img643311.jpg)

Now - ram's testicles and horse fat
on the pic only fat ;)
(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4535/img643911.jpg)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on November 13, 2010, 04:08:51 am
Today I bought almost 5 kg of fresh lamb organ-meats -  ram's testicles, tongues, hearts, kidneys and liver

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3638/img646241.jpg)

And I was eating half an hour ago...

the fatty parts of the hearts
(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/5793/img645711.jpg)

some kidneys
(http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1161/img645921.jpg)

and... the last but not least, the huge delicacy...
Ladies and Gentlemen...
TESTICLES  ;D
(http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/1871/img646431.jpg)
and... the libido skyrockets ;)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on November 13, 2010, 04:22:37 am
Itadakimasu !!!  ;D

Great pics, I think GS will love these.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 13, 2010, 05:25:20 am
I called up about "rocky oysters" yesterday and they were totally out for just about everything. I ended up getting the only thing they had: pork.   >:  Wow, I do sound gay!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 13, 2010, 05:49:12 am
I had (allegedly wild) raw pheasant breast today plus some raw organic tomatoes/pears/apples. I will be having some raw sauerkraut and some raw stagmeat  tomorrow.  *edit* plus some fruit, as above and some sundried bee pollen.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Dwight on November 13, 2010, 06:22:43 pm
raw grass fed meat balls my mama made :) I wonder what spices did she add...
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 13, 2010, 08:26:55 pm
raw grass fed meat balls my mama made :) I wonder what spices did she add...

Wow, your mama now supports your diet choice!
Title: Finally I found deer Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on November 14, 2010, 09:03:56 am
After not having deer for a while  >: I got some while biking today.
It was freshly butchered and very nice taste. There is some marrow parts, fatty parts and a big steak piece!
Since it was an Indian foods store I picked up some whole cloves, Cinnamon sticks and cardamom kernels.
I may use some of those spices to make a jerky or cure a few pieces for my mom as she said she wants to try it but doesn't want it uncured  :P
The little green leaves the Indian guy gave me for free I am not sure what they are but he said it for "fresh curry making!" lol...they smell amazing though, smell just like fresh nuts! I may cut some of the deer up small and maybe spice it with the nutty leaves...

(http://uphaze.info/misc/food-pics/deer-and-spice.jpg)

Here it is close up, yummers...

(http://uphaze.info/misc/food-pics/deer-closeup.jpg)

OH! I just found out today my dad's friend is an avid hunter and goes every weekend almost. Next time he said I can accompany him and help myself to his kills, woohoo!
Title: Re: Finally I found deer Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: djr_81 on November 14, 2010, 09:46:32 am
The little green leaves the Indian guy gave me for free I am not sure what they are but he said it for "fresh curry making!" lol...they smell amazing though, smell just like fresh nuts! I may cut some of the deer up small and maybe spice it with the nutty leaves...
They may be fresh bay leaves from the bay laurel plant. It's a common spice used and the photo looks like it might be some. :)
Title: Re: Finally I found deer Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on November 14, 2010, 09:52:48 am
They may be fresh bay leaves from the bay laurel plant. It's a common spice used and the photo looks like it might be some. :)

I just was looking it up actually and its just fresh Curry leaves from the Curry Tree - see here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curry_Tree
I have never seen them fresh before, very nice taste, I think they would go well in a salad too, to make it nutty.
I am gonna give it a go at making some deer jerky instead of curing it for my mom. I think thats a better idea. But I'll try it using the Indian spices  ???
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on November 15, 2010, 12:09:01 am
Yuli, I think I just fell in love with you LOL
Finding fresh venison is nearly impossible in Az. I think i might be moving just because of that.  :'(

what am I eating right now? Az grass fed round with suet( because these cattle have no real fat) covered in desert wildflower honey. This is my candy. :)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on November 15, 2010, 12:19:57 am
Yuli, I think I just fell in love with you LOL
Next after miles ;)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on November 15, 2010, 03:12:22 am
Next after miles ;)
there is a line?! awww lol!... She's cute. no surprise here

My lunch/ snack....

(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/1916/marrow11.jpg)

My dog is just staring at me. haha  I MIGHT consider sharing :)
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Post by: actup90 on November 15, 2010, 03:14:43 am
LOL i totally goofed that picture attachment... how do I size it down?
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Post by: Hannibal on November 15, 2010, 04:00:07 am
LOL i totally goofed that picture attachment... how do I size it down?
Done
Is it ok?
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Post by: actup90 on November 15, 2010, 04:05:21 am
Thank you Hannibal, this newcomer appreciates it
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Post by: yuli on November 15, 2010, 05:26:27 am
there is a line?! awww lol!......
-[  -[  -[  -[  :P  :P  :P
....u guys are too funny!!!

Nice picture with the bone...
If I throw it will you go get it?
just kidding
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on November 15, 2010, 05:40:53 am
Nice picture with the bone...
If I throw it will you go get it?
just kidding

Only if you promised to pet me afterwards !
 ;D I don't see a laughing smiley take these two  :P
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on November 15, 2010, 06:43:53 am
Only if you promised to pet me afterwards !
ROFL

Why is there no laughing face smiley??? Admin can you add one, lol
Yes I will pet those that are good, and even ones that are not just because its cute LOL
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on November 15, 2010, 12:38:13 pm
Why is there no laughing face smiley??? Admin can you add one, lol
Yes I will pet those that are good, and even ones that are not just because its cute LOL

Done
As you wish princess  ;)
Will that suffice?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 15, 2010, 08:32:27 pm
Not having stagmeat currently after all, just (female) raw venison. I don't understand why stagmeat is always cheaper yet tastes way better and gamier than the female version.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on November 15, 2010, 10:32:54 pm
Eating round mixed with Suet. Some people tell me not eat suet, but I seem to be fine so far..
Any thoughts ???
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on November 15, 2010, 10:53:19 pm
beef heart, bison marrow, beef shank for lunch
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Post by: yuli on November 15, 2010, 11:58:45 pm
As you wish princess  ;)
Will that suffice?

Heh, I meant I "laughing" smiley, that's a winking one...
We have smiling  :) winking  ;) happy/cheesy  :D and grinning  ;D but no laughing one! So we have to type thing like "ha ha" or "lol"...

OK - back on topic....

I am having some beef thats really old, I swear it high this time... :P
I could chew up and swallow 4-5 medium chunks no problem...but then after half an hour I tried to eat more...
Had no problem chewing it up to a mush and loved the taste but when I tried to swallow any more I started gagging like crazy, dunno why lol, maybe that was my limit for meat this high at this time  ???

Here it is:

(http://uphaze.info/misc/food-pics/aged-beef.jpg)

I'll see if I can eat some later on but it might get a little too high by evening heh heh
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on November 16, 2010, 12:47:12 am
loved the taste but when I tried to swallow any more I started gagging like crazy, dunno why lol, maybe that was my limit for meat this high at this time  ???

I choose to cover it so it stays wet and slides down easier. Gagging was a problem in the beginning, then I started to slice it into quarter sized pieces. No problem now. If all else fails... honey.


Right now...More marrow for me!!! Then off to hike with a steak. I wonder what the locals will think. LOL
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on November 16, 2010, 02:06:59 am
it might get a little too high by evening heh heh
it's impossible
meat is is always insufficiently high  ;)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on November 16, 2010, 05:52:03 am
Today I bought 2 fatty ducks from my friend Muslim.
I have eaten some amount of one of them.
(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6668/img650611.jpg)

(http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/2395/img651021.jpg)

(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/7563/img651441.jpg)

(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/1984/img651231.jpg)
Do you see this delicious yellow fat and the dark-red muscle-meat? :)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 16, 2010, 06:01:03 am
My wild mallard duck looks like that except the flesh underneath has a far darker, purplier colour.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on November 16, 2010, 07:55:19 am
meat is is always insufficiently high  ;)

Did you always like high meat or did you come to like it over time?
I like it sometimes when I am in the mood for it, which is rarely

The duck looks amazing!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 18, 2010, 09:55:31 am
cool duck! no exciting pictures for me that stand out, but eating lately fresh fat trim, beef bones, lamb suet, liver, dog food, beef, bison, seaweed, mushrooms, frisee, escarole, sauerkraut, persimmon, tastumas, some pineapple chunks, Florida avocado.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on November 18, 2010, 11:31:19 am
cool duck! no exciting pictures for me that stand out, but eating lately fresh fat trim, beef bones, lamb suet, liver, dog food, beef, bison, seaweed, mushrooms, frisee, escarole, sauerkraut, persimmon, tastumas, some pineapple chunks, Florida avocado.

What kind of mushrooms? how did you prepare them?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 18, 2010, 11:46:37 am
trumpet, shiitake  portobello, oyster, and white. all organic. I just eat them, a few times when i had cooked meals I cooked them.   -X I generally have 2-3 RAF meals these days and every few nights i have a 3rd or 4th meal that is some kid of veg foods with some fats and/or 1-3 fruits.

i've been eating quite a few scallops too, at least 2 lb in the last week or so.

I'd like to start experimenting with chaga and those other specialty things. making a list of this kind of veg crap to try out/order. :)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on November 18, 2010, 12:41:35 pm
Chaga sounds like fun. I don't think eating it sounds or looks very appetizing though. Making a decoction with spring water sounds like a better idea to me.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 18, 2010, 12:54:35 pm
yeah, i'll probably do whatever the instructions or websites suggest. I'm not into big ruptures in what I am doing these days, but definitely little ones. Something is very appealing to me about eating fungus and sea plants even when they are not appealing to the palate. I dunno just seems like a good idea. I definitely don't ascribe to the idea that if its possible to live without something so why bother.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on November 18, 2010, 01:53:13 pm
    Sapote.  I know it's imported, or probably is, I'm sure it didn't grow within a hundred miles, so not very paleo.  I saw it though, and decided to get one.  It's delicious!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on November 18, 2010, 02:34:44 pm
....Something is very appealing to me about eating fungus and sea plants even when they are not appealing to the palate. I dunno just seems like a good idea. I definitely don't ascribe to the idea that if its possible to live without something so why bother.

    Sapote.  I know it's imported, or probably is, I'm sure it didn't grow within a hundred miles, so not very paleo.  I saw it though, and decided to get one.  It's delicious!

I agree, we may not always have the luxury. With things like the carrington event that could take place at any moment. We are faced with the possibility of ONLY having food from less than 50 miles from our dwelling. I say enjoy.  8)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on November 18, 2010, 04:01:39 pm
Did you always like high meat or did you come to like it over time?
Over time, of course ;)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on November 20, 2010, 06:32:45 am
Half of the duck that I bought on Monday and the one-week-old lamb tongues and one heart + some horse fat - that's what I've eaten today
By the way, that's how the fridge with my delicacies looks like :):
(http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/272/img652111.jpg)
from the left side, on the top:
almost 4 kg of ram's testicles that I bought today
at the front Blue Ice bottle "secured" in a jar
big jar with the lamb kidneys with the fat and the smaller one with kidneys without fat, except from the one
on the right side - the one-week-old lamb tongues and hearts
at the bottom:
on the left side - 3 kg of horse meat
on the right - half of the duck
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 20, 2010, 07:05:26 am
Raw stagmeat as usual.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on November 20, 2010, 07:14:33 am
So Hannibal.
There was no heat(hot water etc.) used to remove the feathers from the duck?

Wonderful pics btw.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on November 20, 2010, 02:53:30 pm
There was no heat(hot water etc.) used to remove the feathers from the duck?
Yes, there was - a little bit of fire AFAIK. Wife of my friend Abdullah, from whom I bought those ducks, prepared it for me.
But everything that I've eaten was 100% raw :)
I'm not so orthodox to eat the feathers ;)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on November 21, 2010, 02:37:07 am
The last part of the duck ;)
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8779/img653711.jpg)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on November 21, 2010, 03:49:06 am
LOL !! Not even high!

Wonderful photo!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on November 21, 2010, 04:00:14 am
Not even high!
A little bit high, smelly on the surface of the skin and bones - I love it.
When it's in that state I devour it like a wild animal, as you can see on the pic. ;)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on November 21, 2010, 04:08:15 am
Brains!!!!!
Not Ideal as they the pig was fed grain. Still pretty tasty.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 21, 2010, 04:08:40 am
Hannibal, you look almost like a werewolf in that photo!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on November 23, 2010, 12:19:34 pm
beef tongue, beef shank, and bison marrow for lunch and dinner. i also had a little bit of lamb liver and beef thymus. and i found some large carpenter ants (some nearly two centimeters!) under some rocks while hiking. ate a good amount of them. they had an almost vinegary taste, very strange but not bad. kinda sweet. i guess it was a no plant carb day

the carpenter ants look like this (not my pic):

(http://www.bugsinthenews.com/Central_Texas_Bugs_021501_TM_Carpenter_ant_dorsal_perspective.gif)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on November 24, 2010, 02:06:36 am
Meatballs from grass-fed ground beef which was nice and fatty.
I spiced them up with some fresh ground spices, a little cayenne...and let them dry overnight.
I am a meatball fan now  ;D
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 24, 2010, 02:58:05 am
pasture pork, beef spleen, buffalo bones
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on November 27, 2010, 05:55:52 am
I had some badger meat tonight, for the first time. Quite a lot of under-skin fat, but not as tasty as other animals fat and the muscle flesh is still to fresh for me, so I didn't eat a lot of it. Completed my meal with a bit of cauliflower, a tomato, chestnuts and latter on a few persimmons and apples from my trees.  
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 27, 2010, 07:12:33 am
I had some badger meat tonight, for the first time. Quite a lot of under-skin fat, but not as tasty as other animals fat and the muscle flesh is still to fresh for me, so I didn't eat a lot of it. Completed my meal with a bit of cauliflower, a tomato, chestnuts and latter on a few persimmons and apples from my trees. 
Wow. I can't eat raw badger in the UK as they are protected. Is it gamey tasting like raw wild boar, raw wild venison and the like?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on November 28, 2010, 06:28:28 am
I checked and it seems it's not protected in France. Anyway it was a roadkill given to a friend who gave me a rear leg of it. The fat tastes a bit strange, different than others wild animals fat, but not the muscle. I'll wait a few days or weeks to eat the rest, especially since I have a lot of other meats to eat first, before it gets too hard to chew!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on November 30, 2010, 07:35:04 am
Eating some great goat meat, I love goat!
Compared to raw deer its more chewy and easier to tare apart.
My cats like it too  :)

Earlier on I had salad of sauerkraut that we made ourselves, with some mayo (just raw eggs and oil), tomato, daikon and dill.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 30, 2010, 07:37:31 am
Eating some great goat meat, I love goat!
Compared to raw deer its more chewy and easier to tare apart.
My cats like it too  :)

Earlier on I had salad of sauerkraut that we made ourselves, with some mayo (just raw eggs and oil), tomato, daikon and dill.
I love raw goat! It has a really pungent taste that many SAD-eaters hate but I love!

(I am still on a raw wild stagmeat diet for now plus some radishes(nonorganic) and some raw fruits like oranges.).
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on November 30, 2010, 07:55:04 am
Lunch: bison ribs, high meat (beef muscle), venison jerky, lamb suet

Dinner: wild hog shoulder roast, bison marrow, beef thymus, goat brain

another zero carb day for me i guess. rare for me lately as i've been eating a lot of different local carbs. lately i've been eating a ton of local wild pecans that i've been gathering. i guess i need something in them because they taste amazing and i haven't had any problems digesting them. also been eating some green cabbage leaves, jicama, turk's cap fruit, and hackberry. also been eating some halawi dates every now and then which are delicious but not local (and i can't be totally sure they're unheated - i don't get problems from them though). i think i'm eating all this intuitively to fatten up a bit before winter... i'm up to 128 lbs from 108 lbs when i got back from thailand! above my weight before i left of 122 lbs
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on November 30, 2010, 01:29:44 pm
Lunch: bison ribs, high meat (beef muscle), venison jerky, lamb suet

Dinner: wild hog shoulder roast, bison marrow, beef thymus, goat brain
Ohhhh man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lucky you
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 30, 2010, 01:34:53 pm
Lunch: bison ribs, high meat (beef muscle), venison jerky, lamb suet

Dinner: wild hog shoulder roast, bison marrow, beef thymus, goat brain

another zero carb day for me i guess. rare for me lately as i've been eating a lot of different local carbs. lately i've been eating a ton of local wild pecans that i've been gathering. i guess i need something in them because they taste amazing and i haven't had any problems digesting them. also been eating some green cabbage leaves, jicama, turk's cap fruit, and hackberry. also been eating some halawi dates every now and then which are delicious but not local (and i can't be totally sure they're unheated - i don't get problems from them though). i think i'm eating all this intuitively to fatten up a bit before winter... i'm up to 128 lbs from 108 lbs when i got back from thailand! above my weight before i left of 122 lbs

yeah, this all sounds great man.

you've definitely out 'varried' me even though I am trying.

did you grate the jicama?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on November 30, 2010, 03:40:13 pm
Lunch: bison ribs, high meat (beef muscle), venison jerky, lamb suet

Dinner: wild hog shoulder roast, bison marrow, beef thymus, goat brain

I wonder how many different animal species meats can you eat in a single meal without feeling heavy! I always eat the meat from a single specie per meal (although as much as I want, sometimes a lot), as I feel satisfied with that. I'm wary to mix meats from different species and I guess it would very seldom happen in nature. 
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on November 30, 2010, 03:52:07 pm
I'm wary to mix meats from different species and I guess it would very seldom happen in nature.  
I think that it would happen.
Different kinds of carrior scattered in proximity - that's probable.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 30, 2010, 10:59:16 pm
I wonder how many different animal species meats can you eat in a single meal without feeling heavy! I always eat the meat from a single specie per meal (although as much as I want, sometimes a lot), as I feel satisfied with that. I'm wary to mix meats from different species and I guess it would very seldom happen in nature. 

do you want the red ribbon or the blue?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on November 30, 2010, 11:21:36 pm
do you want the red ribbon or the blue?

Please clarify what you mean in a way understandable to someone whose mother tongue is not English, since I translate it in French by "Tu veux le ruban rouge ou le bleu ?" which doesn't make sense to me.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on November 30, 2010, 11:38:27 pm
yeah, this all sounds great man.

you've definitely out 'varried' me even though I am trying.

did you grate the jicama?

thanks kd, i try

i just cut the skin off the jicama and ate it like an apple. those things are deliciously juicy
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on November 30, 2010, 11:40:56 pm
I wonder how many different animal species meats can you eat in a single meal without feeling heavy! I always eat the meat from a single specie per meal (although as much as I want, sometimes a lot), as I feel satisfied with that. I'm wary to mix meats from different species and I guess it would very seldom happen in nature. 

i definitely see what you're saying and agree with you for the most part. however, it's nearly impossible for me to get that variety of organs and stuff from the same animal. im just doing the best i can. but i think eating all the organs and meat from one animal would probably be better. BUT, i haven't noticed any problems from mixing different species' meats and organs in a meal
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on November 30, 2010, 11:43:50 pm
BUT, i haven't noticed any problems from mixing different species' meats and organs in a meal
Is there any way to prove that mixing would cause any problems?
I mean - on biochemical level.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on December 01, 2010, 12:07:23 am
Is there any way to prove that mixing would cause any problems?
I mean - on biochemical level.

I don't think it would cause serious problems, just making digestion more complex and perhaps more difficult due to different types of proteins needing different types of enzymes. The more different things you eat in a meal, the more your digestion is difficult.  

I remember that when I ate cooked food, I didn't like eating meats from different animal species in the  same meal, it made my digestion very heavy.  
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 01, 2010, 02:05:40 am
BUT, i haven't noticed any problems from mixing different species' meats and organs in a meal
  When I first went rawpalaeo, I had various mildly increased problems if I mixed meats/organs from different animals in the same meal. However, my digestive system was very seriously damaged at the time, and once my digestive system started healing properly after cutting out raw dairy from the diet, I never experienced this issue again when mixing such different meats/organs.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 01, 2010, 02:21:19 am
I don't think it would cause serious problems, just making digestion more complex and perhaps more difficult due to different types of proteins needing different types of enzymes. The more different things you eat in a meal, the more your digestion is difficult.  
When you kill an animal and eat some liver, kidneys, heart and muscle-meats you eat foods that have got different amino acid profiles. 
That's 100% natural. Wild Animals do that all the time.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on December 01, 2010, 03:31:02 am
Has anyone eaten like 800g fat in a day? And has anyone done this and eaten virtually nothing else, or only eaten some meat as well but no vegetables/fruit?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on December 01, 2010, 03:43:49 am
When you kill an animal and eat some liver, kidneys, heart and muscle-meats you eat foods that have got different amino acid profiles.  
That's 100% natural. Wild Animals do that all the time.

No problem that way. There’s something specific to each animal specie in their proteins’ structure and you’ll find the same specificity in the proteins of their different organs.

The proteins of an animal of another specie have a different specificity. Our body must break the proteins of, for example, a deer, into amino acids and then reassemble those amino acids to built specific human proteins.

It’s like you can built your house with the bricks and tiles of another house, but you won’t be able to built it the way you want by taking the entire walls and the entire roof of another house.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 01, 2010, 04:09:23 am
Has anyone eaten like 800g fat in a day? And has anyone done this and eaten virtually nothing else, or only eaten some meat as well but no vegetables/fruit?
  A few years  ago, I would sometimes just eat huge amounts of marrow in any 1 day, and nothing else at all. I didn't have any issues with that, though of course I wasn't doing RZC all the time then, just on specific days at random.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 05, 2010, 04:11:44 am
Fatty part of the wild deer
(http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/972/img662111.jpg)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on December 05, 2010, 04:30:58 am
LOL! You're very funny!

Tonight I had about half of a moufflon's rear leg  :P, a small organic brocoli, some organic carrots, then hazelnuts from my land, apples also from my orchard, and finally some of my own prunes home-dried.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hanna on December 05, 2010, 04:50:38 pm

Tonight I had about half of a moufflon's rear leg  :P, a small organic brocoli, some organic carrots, then hazelnuts from my land, apples also from my orchard, and finally some of my own prunes home-dried.


All (more or less) in one meal? And gcb makes such combinations too (meat - sweet fruit or meat - nuts - sweet fruit or nuts - sweet fruit)?
For me, avoiding such combinations is the most important rule within the raw food diet.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on December 05, 2010, 05:10:02 pm
Yes, more or less in one meal, but with a time span between each, especially after the meat. I know it's not recommended to eat so many different stuff in a single meal but I was very hungry last night and my subsequent digestion was fine. It was not in the sequence you say "(meat - sweet fruit or meat - nuts - sweet fruit or nuts - sweet fruit)", but meat - vegetables - nuts - fresh fruit - dried fruit.

It's all up to how you feel and it's not everyday like this for me. In the tropics, I'm generally satisfied with half of 20kg jackfruit for lunch and a dozen of sea turtle eggs for diner. Nothing else.

GCB waits now at least 30 to 45 minutes to eat something else after the meat. I find that, yes, he eats a lot of different things in a meal, but in rather small amounts and with a long time span in-between.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 05, 2010, 05:55:31 pm
For me, avoiding such combinations is the most important rule within the raw food diet.
True, very true.
But it applies also to cooked food diets.
"Sequential eating" is of paramount importance for me.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on December 06, 2010, 04:34:43 am
Yup...one of the reasons cooked food makes me feel so shitty is because a lot of cooked meals are many different ingredients combined, eating one single cooked food unmixed does not produce the same shitty feeling, although it doesn't produce any positive feeling like raw food does.

I think raw diet and sequential eating are both important but two very different things.
For example you can eat a mostly cooked diet but eat sequentially and you will still feel better then on mixed cooked diet.
Alternately you can eat all raw paleo but if you eat everything together you will get that same shitty feeling.

For me I need about half an hour usually after eating one food to move on to the next if I am still hungry, provided if the food is raw.

As for the raw paleo foods I am eating, well, I am eating raw meat now but its grain-fed so not that paleo :P
I am just doing this for fun, for a little change/experiment, they sell some delicious steaks of grain-fed beef and its incredibly tasty and not too expensive. I have to say I like how some grain-fed beef have a fatty marbling its nice to have the fat lined into the muscle flesh yum.
Yesterday I had a huge steak (warmed up but still raw) and I ate a large amount of bone marrow, nice fresh bone marrow was like unsweetened ice cream.  :D
Then my usual sauerkraut salad (yes its mixed but the foods involved are very related, that makes a difference for me)....
then some apples and a ripe persimmon.

Today I didn't have a good start, my parents bought a fancy hummus and I had to have some because its not just hummus - it was Truffle hummus, if you ever had some good truffles you'll know why I ate it  :P
Later I will have raw muscle meat but I will wait like few hours because of the hummus, if it was something raw I ate I'd only need to wait like half an hour  :P
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on December 06, 2010, 09:59:10 am
grass fed bison, well earlier ;D
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on December 06, 2010, 05:19:58 pm
Over the last few days:
Red Apples; Red Grapes; Pomegranates; A Pineapple; Oranges; Red Grapefruits; Contents of a Marrow Bone; Whole Ox heart; Whole Ox Liver.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 06, 2010, 05:27:53 pm
Raw wild stagmeat and some raw (nonorganic) fruit as usual.


Years ago, I used to be very wary of eating such lean meats like venison and would pour raw marrow on the plate in huge amounts, but, these days, raw lean meat appears to be fine as long as I have a few carbs now and then.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on December 07, 2010, 06:21:10 am
I ate very good, very tasty raw organic chicken last night.

http://www.myhealthblog.org/2010/12/07/organic-chicken-from-pamora-farm-is-delicious/
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: subfarm on December 07, 2010, 12:13:19 pm
I ate raw beets and a pile of apples. It's all I had a taste for today.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 07, 2010, 03:00:04 pm
I ate raw beets and a pile of apples. It's all I had a taste for today. 
No need to eat any animal products?  :)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Rawdietforhealth on December 07, 2010, 05:24:11 pm
6 fresh young coconuts (water and meat) throughout the day, 600 g raw beef and steamed sweet potato with olive oil (breakfast), 400 g sashimi tuna (lunch), two raw fertilized organic duck eggs, a raw tomato and a raw cucumber for dinner, juice from a whole calabash (upo)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 07, 2010, 05:56:47 pm
No need to eat any animal products?  :)
Nothing wrong with that. I also have days in which I eat nothing but raw fruit.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on December 07, 2010, 07:14:20 pm
No need to eat any animal products?  :)

Sometimes I only eat plants too.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 07, 2010, 08:14:06 pm
Sometimes I only eat plants too.
Me too, but veeeery rarely
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: subfarm on December 07, 2010, 10:25:54 pm
Some days I'll eat nothing but a few pounds of animal parts. It just wasn't one of those days. The thought of animal products didn't arouse my interests yesterday, no need to force myself to eat them.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on December 10, 2010, 08:49:29 am
beef chuck roast, lamb liver, bison heart, and hog back fat
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on December 10, 2010, 08:54:25 am
yesterday was 4 marrow bones, some lamb suet, aged liver, a few precut pineapple chunks, fresh bison, ground organs, 6 eggs on rising and a late night snack of an orange with coconut butter that I just picked up for kicks. Today was ground beef -eh- more suet and more organ mix.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on December 10, 2010, 10:45:24 am
beef chuck roast, lamb liver, bison heart, and hog back fat
Nice, I wish I had the variety.  ;)

Had some ground bison, bison suet and back fat. I decided to have a few leaves of organic baby greens. Felt refreshing. Had 2 egg yolks too not fertilized though.

I got to find some way of getting a good variety of organs. Its very rare for me to get anything besides grass fed liver. There is a store with a frozen source of brains etc. But its grain fed.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on December 10, 2010, 10:48:22 am
like 5 apples, 7 clementines, 2 massive desert pears(like 800gs of pear), half a piel de sapo melon(about 1.3kg), 4 bananas(about 900g), and about 600g of Ox liver.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on December 10, 2010, 12:16:51 pm
edit: still hungry so ate 4 small apples, a handful of cilantro, some kombu seaweed (first time, it's delicious! unexpectedly sweet tasting), some honey, and a handful of pecans. in that order. waited a while before the pecans.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on December 10, 2010, 03:15:59 pm
Ahi tuna and wild king salmon in lemon juice with some dulse, nori, and sea lettuce flakes on top!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 10, 2010, 03:29:34 pm
1,5 oranges just couple of minutes ago.
I usually don't eat them, but my mother gave them to me because they were too sour for her. ;)
IMO they were tasty.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on December 12, 2010, 07:29:37 am
Emu Egg!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on December 12, 2010, 07:46:29 am
Wow where do you get emu eggs? Looks so cool!
I bought some quail eggs yesterday but I haven't eaten them yet because they look too damn pretty and nice, like decorations, lol

EDIT:

Oh I forgot to mention I 'discovered' the Black Radish! OMG sooo gooooood! Try it guys.
I started cutting it up to make a salad, tasted a chunk...then ate it all whole before I could make the salad ha ha
Tastes like a nice mix between a fruit, a radish and a cooked potato (but its raw)  ;)

(http://www.recipetips.com/images/glossary/r/radish_black.jpg)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on December 12, 2010, 08:45:25 am
I got it from the family that sells me duck eggs here in Az. It is the coolest blue green color!
I haven't tried it for the same reason. I only have one and it looks awesome!
I will probably take a picture of the inside.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 12, 2010, 02:15:14 pm
Yesterday:
Fallow deer for the first time :)
The neck -
(http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3880/hhhhhr.gif)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on December 12, 2010, 02:46:32 pm
Yesterday:
Fallow deer for the first time :)
The neck

The neck is a wonderful cut. I have been eating beef neck and rump for the past 3 weeks.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 12, 2010, 07:04:47 pm
Wild boar ribs
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6177/hjhjh.gif)

that's how fatty they are :)
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9264/img666621.jpg)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Rawdietforhealth on December 12, 2010, 09:27:35 pm
Venison steak last night and wild salmon for breakfast along with avocados!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: subfarm on December 13, 2010, 01:22:01 am
Today, probably nothing but some venison and avocado.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Rawdietforhealth on December 13, 2010, 05:40:54 am
 ;) dinner tonight was buffalo rib steak for the first time!  Very tasty!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on December 13, 2010, 06:18:32 am
Didn't eat anything yesterday, and today I had 1.2kg beef brisket plus ~10 clementines and 3 red grapefruits.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 14, 2010, 02:45:49 pm
Yesterday in the evening - the marrow from the wild boar shinbones and some cartilages. Delicious :)
(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5396/img671811.jpg)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on December 14, 2010, 05:21:08 pm
    Just ate another raw chicken thigh.  The WF by me finally carries air chilled thighs.  I hated buying the white meat so much.

    I ate raw pineapple and raw grassfed cow cream earlier today.

    Hannibal, you are so fortunate in the food available.  What is that, a clay pot?  How did you get boar?  What's the difference in taste from it to pork, like that of the difference from bison to beef?  Have you had bison?  The boar bones look nice and fresh.  It's hard to get marrow bones at all around where I am that don't look like they've been frozen or in plastic too long, for me at least.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 14, 2010, 06:05:05 pm
Hannibal, you are so fortunate in the food available.  What is that, a clay pot? 
Yes, it's a traditional clay pot :)
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How did you get boar?  What's the difference in taste from it to pork, like that of the difference from bison to beef?  Have you had bison? 
Fresh wild boar meat is available in Warsaw (the capital of Poland). I've got it from Elite Expeditions from Zwierzyniec; btw, they export quite a lot of wild meats to the Germany and France.
A do not eat pork, as it has bad quality.
Wild boar meat has got very pleasant flavour - acorn- and nut-like :)
It is different from any other kind of meat.
The bisons to not live in Poland. AFAIK only in Northern America
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on December 14, 2010, 09:45:21 pm
Day before yesterday ate about 200g Ox kidney, ~200g Ox heart fat, ~100g Beef bone marrow. Yesterday ate nothing. Today ate ~1.2kg Beef Brisket, a lamb heart and ~200g Beef bone marrow.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on December 15, 2010, 01:02:44 am
Yes, it's a traditional clay pot :)Fresh wild boar meat is available in Warsaw (the capital of Poland). I've got it from Elite Expeditions from Zwierzyniec; btw, they export quite a lot of wild meats to the Germany and France. ....

You have to come here and have some bison, and we have to go there and feast on some of that tasty boar of yours!  ;D
BTW I bought some imported Polish butter in the Russian foods store here, its very tasty butter and has a nice deep yellow color. I am sure its not raw but it has no additives at least (I was just excited to get Polish butter lol). The raw version of that butter must be great in Poland.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 15, 2010, 01:37:25 am
You have to come here and have some bison, and we have to go there and feast on some of that tasty boar of yours!  ;D
That would be great :)
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BTW I bought some imported Polish butter in the Russian foods store here, its very tasty butter and has a nice deep yellow color. I am sure its not raw but it has no additives at least (I was just excited to get Polish butter lol). The raw version of that butter must be great in Poland.
Yeah, raw Polish butter is tasty, much better than standard pasteurized one from the shop.
In the first year of my "raw journey" I was eating quite a lot of it, as a source of fat.
Now I practically do not eat any dairy.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 15, 2010, 02:01:42 am
 Tomorrow, I am having some raw wild boar as well as the usual raw stagmeat plus raw apples/pears/oranges. Stagmeat seems a lot cheaper than wild boar.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on December 15, 2010, 03:16:14 am
Stagmeat seems a lot cheaper than wild boar.

    What's the difference in flavor between Stagmeat and doemeat?  I tried raw venison, but I'm not sure which gender it was.  It tasted iron rich, kind of like calves liver.

    I'm drinking a non paleo food.  It is raw and from an animal (and grassfed and local).  It's jersey cow non starter cultured buttermilk.  One of my cats is enjoying drinking it too.  We just made two batches of butter.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 15, 2010, 04:07:39 am
    What's the difference in flavor between Stagmeat and doemeat?  I tried raw venison, but I'm not sure which gender it was.  It tasted iron rich, kind of like calves liver.

I'm pretty sure that general venison is always doe meat. Stagmeat is seen as tougher, as I recall, and therefore costs less than regular venison, at least where I've bought it. I actually prefer the taste of raw stagmeat, it seems richer to me, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on December 15, 2010, 05:01:03 am
I finally cracked that egg, here are some pics
It was excellent. Taste like chicken eggs but with it's own accent.
The bowls are 5-6 inches in diameter, rocky style was not happening LOL
If someone could size them down I would appreciate it :)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on December 18, 2010, 06:53:21 am
I was surprised to find I like whole raw quail eggs! Because I hate the raw egg whites of chickens, I'll gag, but have no issue just drinking the quail eggs.

The chicken egg whites are slimy or harder and gel-like, but the quail egg whites are just like watery, and with the yolks taste great. My cats really love drinking them too and they don't like chicken eggs too.

From now on I am switching chicken eggs to quail eggs for raw consumption.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 18, 2010, 06:54:43 am
I far prefer raw quail eggs to raw chicken eggs. Raw goose eggs are also well worth trying, IMO.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on December 18, 2010, 06:57:55 am
...If someone could size them down I would appreciate it :)

Imagine what it would have been like to eat dinosaur eggs!  ??? I know its not possible but that would be fun.

I far prefer raw quail eggs to raw chicken eggs. Raw goose eggs are also well worth trying, IMO.

Never found goose eggs yet, I'll check some more Asian markets, thats where I find the quail eggs and they are fairly cheap.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on December 18, 2010, 09:20:51 am
Imagine what it would have been like to eat dinosaur eggs!  ??? I know its not possible but that would be fun.

It is possible to imagine anything. I would love to try dino eggs! They probably could have been a meal in one.
Chicken eggs are gross. If I can't get at least duck, I don't eat eggs.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on December 18, 2010, 09:52:31 pm
"If the egg white is watery instead of gel-like, don't consume the egg. "
- http://www.13.waisays.com/egg-yolk.htm (http://www.13.waisays.com/egg-yolk.htm)

Why does it say this?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 18, 2010, 10:54:52 pm
Why does it say this?
Because it's an urban legend.  ;D
Several hours ago I consumed 1,5-month-old egg yolks and 3 od them were black and the whites watery.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on December 20, 2010, 11:44:47 am
lunch: bison heart, lamb suet, beef marrow

dinner: beef jerky, lamb suet

snacks after dinner: mizuna, hen of the woods mushroom (maitake), carob powder, banana, celeriac

i had a very physically demanding day so ate a good amount of food today

ps: first time i had celeriac. coincidentally, i saw that miles and yuli also had some recently. miles, it does taste a lot like mushrooms actually. good call. i like it
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on December 21, 2010, 11:26:12 am
Today I first had some beef fat, followed by 1.815kg fresh lean bloody beef roasting joint. This was the first time I actually drank blood, previously if I've ever had any runny blood I've just tried to pick it up with the meat, planning to drink any that's left at the end but it's just dried up before I could get to it. I recently had a bloody fresh liver in the fridge but I took about 2 weeks to finish it and at the end there was a decent amount of that thick sticky blood candy which someone else mentioned. The blood I drank had a taste which reminded me of tomato juice.

I also had 4 large carrots and 2 large pears afterwards.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on December 21, 2010, 12:08:57 pm
Monday night is Mac and Cheese night.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on December 21, 2010, 12:11:48 pm
Looks delicious KD,
Do you eat the whole things?
Bones? Skins?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on December 21, 2010, 12:16:37 pm
nah what you see in the second pic is what I didn't eat. I did eat all the eyes and whatever organs I can decipher. i'm not very miserly with fish - it was like 5$ for these- and some bits can taste sort of metallic and I just let it be.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on December 21, 2010, 02:42:15 pm
@KD Hahah Mac & Cheese. Nice man, that was hilarious.

Ground Beef, liver. Srpouts (clover and radish) grown in WI, organic lettuce, and Wisconsin Cranberries.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: subfarm on December 22, 2010, 03:17:41 am
I ended up eating almost half a raw chicken last night. I don't know why I did that, I don't like chicken , cooked or not, and I'm crossing my fingers that I don't get sick. I was like a demon possessed and it just looked so good. I really hope I don't fall ill.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 22, 2010, 04:59:32 am
Raw wild boar plus some raw pears.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on December 22, 2010, 07:19:27 am
I ended up eating almost half a raw chicken last night. I don't know why I did that, I don't like chicken , cooked or not, and I'm crossing my fingers that I don't get sick. I was like a demon possessed and it just looked so good. I really hope I don't fall ill.

Wow, maybe your body needed a lot of somthing that was in the chicken  -\ raw chicken honestly grosses me out though, its the only raw meat that I won't really eat unless I really had to....don't worry you probably won't get any salmonella overload if you don't dwell on it too much, I have a feeling the more we worry the more chance something will make us sick....sometimes...
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: SteakNchop on December 22, 2010, 07:25:20 am
There was this meat shop with some American Kobe rib eyes. They were frozen, but I picked one up. It was honestly one of the best pieces of meat I have ever had, and I eat a lot of terrific meat.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 22, 2010, 07:48:47 am
There was this meat shop with some American Kobe rib eyes. They were frozen, but I picked one up. It was honestly one of the best pieces of meat I have ever had, and I eat a lot of terrific meat.
  Kobe beef is notoriously grainfed - avoid in future, IMO.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: SteakNchop on December 22, 2010, 09:47:08 am
  Kobe beef is notoriously grainfed - avoid in future, IMO.
I understand that. I eat a good deal of my meat grass fed. I kind of round out the O 3/6 ratio by eating a bit of salmon, so I figure I'll be fine.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on December 22, 2010, 10:58:18 am
A local dairy farmer gave me a whole beef heart, whole tongue, and whole liver. I had to go buy more mason jars  :o
So I'll be eating liver for a while... LOL  The thing is massive, at least five pounds probably closer to ten.

I was chilling with a young bull today and he was licking my hands, the more I look at the tongue the more it creeps me out.. :P
Any recommendations on what I should do with the tongue? Get it high? just eat it?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on December 22, 2010, 11:35:06 am
today I had strange food
4 eggs
.5 lb lamb with mixed organs and marrow
snack of a red delicious (dark) apple, dulse, shitake mushrooms, RB, in-shell pecans (think this was my last experiment with these for a bit, although w/ fresh fruit was probably not the smartest)
.5 lb lamb with mixed organs and marrow
1 small squash, 1 large avocado from a bodega that I believe is fuerte (or a very big hass) non-organic, dulse, raw kim-chi, some local Chinese bitter lettuce of some persuasion, and parsley with ACV. everything organic including above if not specified.

very earthy, like eating out the earth mother. I can't say i 'like' the taste of mushrooms or squash or kim-chi, but the experience is interesting. I feel like Data from Star Trek having a humanoid experience and jotting down notes. Its so different than meats that is certain. no verdict yet on the squash. I crunched a bunch of seeds as I figured veg folks pay $ for these things.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 22, 2010, 10:01:07 pm
I understand that. I eat a good deal of my meat grass fed. I kind of round out the O 3/6 ratio by eating a bit of salmon, so I figure I'll be fine.
If the salmon is farmed, that won't work. Only if it's raw wild salmon, is that OK.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on December 22, 2010, 11:21:17 pm
Yes, wild fish only!

As I write., I'm just chewing a stick of liquorice  Very nice taste.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on December 23, 2010, 12:01:37 am
Just ate a quarter of a melon.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 23, 2010, 02:24:13 am
Having a raw goose on the 24th.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: subfarm on December 23, 2010, 06:18:09 am
Wow, maybe your body needed a lot of somthing that was in the chicken  -\ raw chicken honestly grosses me out though, its the only raw meat that I won't really eat unless I really had to....don't worry you probably won't get any salmonella overload if you don't dwell on it too much, I have a feeling the more we worry the more chance something will make us sick....sometimes...

I didn't get sick. I don't know why I ate it. I wanted it, but it didn't taste good and the fatty parts made me gag a little, but I still wanted it. I wanted to eat the bones too, but that wasn't happening  ;) Chicken in general grosses me out. The running joke my whole life has been "I don't derive pleasure from eating flightless birds." Which is true. The one and only time I've had serious illness from animal food was from some cooked chicken from a chain fast food joint. It was the first animal product I'd eaten in a few years. I got violently ill, I thought it was mainly due to the fact that I had been vegan, but every one of my roommates became ill too.
So now I very rarely eat birds other than quail- taste aversion conditioning is a mighty powerful thing. I may eat some livers tonight. I've been ruminating and craving them for long enough, I suppose it's time to act. I smelled some earlier and I salivated. I'll probably just swallow some whole and be done with it.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on December 23, 2010, 07:42:00 am
.... The running joke my whole life has been "I don't derive pleasure from eating flightless birds." Which is true....

Cough, ostrich, cough....ever tried it? It not like chicken or turkey.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: SteakNchop on December 23, 2010, 08:26:31 am
Cough, ostrich, cough....ever tried it? It not like chicken or turkey.
What's it taste like?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on December 23, 2010, 08:28:07 am
like a very good red meat!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 23, 2010, 08:47:24 am
like a very good red meat!

I find ostrich has too bland a taste, no doubt because it's too lean(and farmed on grains).
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on December 23, 2010, 08:48:37 am
earlier I had about 3/4lb scallop. then later I had a few pre-cut pineapple chunks and then some organ mix. hopefully something fatty later
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on December 23, 2010, 10:09:54 am
I find ostrich has too bland a taste, no doubt because it's too lean(and farmed on grains).

I tried it a long time ago and remember it being very nice...are you sure it wasn't a bad one because people who like red meat usually love from what I hear...also if the ostriches are farmed on grains wouldn't they be more fatty...? From reading about some ostrich farms it seems they are usually both pastured and grain fed, because they can quickly devastate a pasture otherwise. Many farms seasonally pasture them...they are also very unaltered from their wild state.

I read they can live up to 70 years on a farm, amazing...
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: raw on December 23, 2010, 11:48:06 am
I've tasted sheep's raw stomach for the 1st time today and it was so yummy! Kinda sweet taste. I also had raw wild caught jumbo shrimps for the 1st time today and they tasted divine!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 23, 2010, 03:26:09 pm
I tried it a long time ago and remember it being very nice...are you sure it wasn't a bad one because people who like red meat usually love from what I hear...also if the ostriches are farmed on grains wouldn't they be more fatty...? From reading about some ostrich farms it seems they are usually both pastured and grain fed, because they can quickly devastate a pasture otherwise. Many farms seasonally pasture them...they are also very unaltered from their wild state.

I read they can live up to 70 years on a farm, amazing...
I'll admit I was not sure they were grainfed. However, modern farmers have a huge tendency to feed their animals grains for a number of reasons re profit, so, often if pastured/grassfed is not mentioned, then grainfed is very likely.

Anyway, I have tried ostrich several times as it's a novelty food in the UK, and never liked it.  I only like the taste of truly wild birds like raw wild mallard duck etc.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on December 24, 2010, 06:21:09 am
boneyard. marrow/short ribs. had maybe 15 black grapes from my bodega earlier of which some smelled of mold  -v and some eggs on rising.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on December 24, 2010, 07:21:22 am
That marrow looks tasty yello yum, its begging to be scooped out!

Yesterday was a weird eating day for me....

Raw goat (a little fatty) followed by a very ripe persimmon followed by a small bowl of kefir with 2 big spoons of cod oil and 4 drops of vit D (I feel I really need the D now) followed by a dark sour apple and very sour white grapefruit, then I had a small piece of [CENSORED item here] ...today I have zero hunger haven't eaten anything....later I'll prolly eat some sour kraut and kefir then bacon (I don't cook the bacon) before sleep. Getting really focused on sour stuff lately dunno y.

EDIT: nope I ended up getting hungry and ate raw ground beef instead. See planning what to eat and when never works  -\
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on December 25, 2010, 03:25:43 am
Having some amazingly fresh wild caught snapper, what a difference from the farmed fish, it starts bland but develops nutty taste as you eat it.
Before that I had some fresh ground deer but decided that should be dried a little as its kinda too moist.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on December 25, 2010, 01:35:37 pm
Last night I had spinach, broccoli, cauliflower, brussel sprouts and an orange bell pepper. I REALLY enjoyed the spinach..

Before that I finished off the marrow from some bones, and then moved on to having some fat off-cuts from my butcher. I was enjoying this, had a few hundred grams(~500?), and then I started to get a chemical taste from it. Is it possible that this is something natural in the fat?? Or is it, as it tastes, that some cleaning chemicals have bound on to the fat? I've always experienced this same chemical taste at some point from fat-trimmings, never from the fat that comes with any meat though. I've never had a cut of meat with so much fat on it as that though of course.. I've only had fat trimmings from two butchers from the same town though, and it makes sense that all butchers would use the same cleaning stuff anyway. Generally this butcher hasn't seemed to have any problems from chemicals,  but maybe they don't give the same care when handling fat off-cuts? Or maybe fat just binds on to the chemicals more strongly?

I also had like 10 apples, 10 clementines and 2 oranges.

All the shops are shut so I can't get any meat. I have a bit of an ox kidney left though which I'll probably have today
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on December 25, 2010, 02:04:53 pm
melons this morning.
1 mango this mid morning.
salad this lunch
and 1 date.

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on December 27, 2010, 11:40:07 am
6 lambs tongues
3 marrow bones
2 bodega bananas snapped up as the only choice during a blizzard with a dab of honey and X
and a partridge and the bark of a pear tree (to scrape out the parasites in the lambs tongues I guess)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on December 27, 2010, 02:47:25 pm
I ate some oysters today...
And found tiny crabs inside of about 5/15 of them!
They were delicious, complemented the oysters well.  ;D
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on December 27, 2010, 08:44:09 pm
Brussel Sprouts;Asparagus; Broccoli; Spinach; Garlic, Bell Peppers; Mushrooms; Cauliflower; Beet Roots; Carrots; Radishes; Frozen Pheasants(ate whilst still frozen); Beef Fat trimmings; moist few week old Ox Kidney.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 27, 2010, 09:34:43 pm
Raw goose plus some raw pears/apples.  The very fatty goose is undoubtedly partially grainfed and intensively-farmed, given the very low price, but it is far tastier than any of the raw geese/turkeys I've bought in past years for Christmas, so I suspect that it was more pastured than is usual.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on December 28, 2010, 03:19:47 pm
I don't think the garlic was a good thing to eat and I doubt I'll have any more. It seemed to cause me some aches/pains.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 28, 2010, 04:21:40 pm
I don't think the garlic was a good thing to eat and I doubt I'll have any more. It seemed to cause me some aches/pains.
Recently when I ate one clove of garlic I almost vomited.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on December 29, 2010, 03:49:16 am
Recently when I ate one clove of garlic I almost vomited.

Garlic and onions make me run away like a brakeless 18-wheeler going full speed downhill.  ;D

Tonight I just had half a venisson leg, a fenel, one and half sweet potatoes, a lot of chestnuts. All delicious.

Edit: 4 of my own trees' apples latter on.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 29, 2010, 04:49:47 am
Today I bought quite fatty chunk of horse meat.
I'm just eating it (of course only some part of it)
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9439/zdfff.gif)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Dima on December 29, 2010, 04:51:04 am
That looks awesome, Hannibal!

I'm finishing a duck I bought yesterday. I found out I can't eat a whole duck in one sitting  l)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on December 29, 2010, 04:57:11 am
damn, that horse looks delicious.

i just ate some fatty pastured pork  and bison marrow and then some marinated eggplant a little while after.

i also tried chewing on some licorice root (ala iguana). it was ok at first but then it started tasting pretty foul...

tonight i'll probably eat some seaweed and veggies. or something. not really feeling like eating any more animal stuff today. we'll see

edit: ended up eating half a grapefruit, some blueberries, parsley, and then some pecans later
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on December 29, 2010, 08:42:49 am
damn, that horse looks delicious.
you got that right!
fasting today
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: wodgina on December 29, 2010, 09:34:43 am
I fourth that. Almost looks like beef cheek which has a really nice almost smokey flavour.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on December 29, 2010, 11:11:39 am
Today I bought quite fatty chunk of horse meat....

Looking good, but ...dare I say, marbled? Can meat be perfectly marbled and 100% grass-fed?

Today was a day of raw lamb and beer for me.
Thats all I had, some beer early on because we have mini-little vacation going on, and fresh raw lamb tonight, the shank with the marrow bone in the middle and lots of fat around it, a complete package....the "happy meal" of the paleo world, lol....I love the fat that comes with the lamb meat, makes me full.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 29, 2010, 03:29:26 pm
Looking good, but ...dare I say, marbled? Can meat be perfectly marbled and 100% grass-fed?
I don't know if it is 100% grass-fed.
The taste and the aroma of that meat is so pleasant, so it's rather impossible that horses are given some "shit foods".
But I do not understand what do you mean with this "marbled".
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on December 29, 2010, 03:33:29 pm
Looking good, but ...dare I say, marbled? Can meat be perfectly marbled and 100% grass-fed?

Is it possible that's just connective tissue and structural fat?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 29, 2010, 03:46:55 pm
Is it possible that's just connective tissue and structural fat?
It's only the fat that "marbles" that chunk of horse meat.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on December 29, 2010, 06:05:58 pm
I agree with Yuli, AFAIK meat from exclusively grass fed animals shouldn't be marbled like that, i.e. with fat mixed in-between the muscle. The taste of badly fed animals meat can be great.

We had this problem here: we trusted a friendly stockbreeder only to discover latter that he had cheated  for years, feeding his animals with loads of barley and oats. His instincto customers preferred the meat of the animals that were fed with the most grain. GCB had warned that the meat of a Southern France stockbreeder trusted by instinctos (without specifically telling his name) was not ok, but his warning were ignored. 

François
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 29, 2010, 06:37:44 pm
I agree with Yuli, AFAIK meat from exclusively grass fed animals shouldn't be marbled like that, i.e. with fat mixed in-between the muscle.
Any vindication?
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The taste of badly fed animals meat can be great.
I disagree.
Tyler probably too.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Nation on December 29, 2010, 06:42:38 pm
Grass-fed lamb shoulder chops can be a little marbled.

Horse meat sold in my province is extremely lean, not a shred of fat :(
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 29, 2010, 06:45:18 pm
Horse meat sold in my province is extremely lean, not a shred of fat :(
The horse meat that I buy is predominatingly very lean.
But sometimese it has got a little bit of fat; like that one.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on December 29, 2010, 06:51:52 pm
Any vindication?

No, sorry: it's just that all the wild and grass fed animals meat I saw isn't marbled like that. I've heard other experienced instinctos stating the same.

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I disagree.
Tyler probably too.

Let's experiment and see! A cannibalism test might be the best way to find out...  ;D

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on December 29, 2010, 07:45:58 pm
Grass-fed lamb shoulder chops can be a little marbled.

I've never seen any marbled lamb meat, ever... It can't be grass-fed. Either that your you are confused about what marbling is.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 29, 2010, 09:21:47 pm
No, sorry: it's just that all the wild and grass fed animals meat I saw isn't marbled like that. I've heard other experienced instinctos stating the same.
Composition of meats from different animals are so different from each others.
To prove your point you've got to hunt a wild horse and take a pic of its carcass  ;D

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on December 29, 2010, 09:41:38 pm
There’s that on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_feeding

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Grain-fed cattle have more internal fat (i.e., marbling) which results in a more tender meat than forage-fed cattle of a similar age. In some Asian countries such as Japan, which is not a grain surplus country, tastes and preferences have encouraged feeding grain to cattle, but at a high cost since the grain must be imported.[17]

Most grass-fed cattle are leaner than feedlot beef, lacking marbling, which lowers the fat content and caloric level of the meat. Meat from grass-fed cattle also have higher levels of Conjugated Linoleic Acid (CLA) and the Omega-3 fatty acids ALA, EPA, and DHA.[19]


But also that :

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Grass-fed beef is not standardized. Most is leaner than conventional feedlot beef, but some is equally marbled  due to carefully managed grazing, excellent pastures, and improved genetics. Another technique for producing well-marbled grass-fed cattle is to keep the animals on pasture for two years or more. Most pasture-based ranchers dry-age the beef for 7–21 days, enhancing the flavor and tenderness of the meat.[citation needed]
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 29, 2010, 09:45:26 pm
When it comes to the sheep this theory is bullocks :D
The mutton is SO FATTY at the end of the summer, from animals eating ONLY grass, wild fruits, etc.
So much internal fat.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on December 29, 2010, 10:07:17 pm
Yes, but there's a difference between:

- marbling which is just as on you horse meat photo, small parts of fat equally spread everywhere amongst the muscle
- large parts of fat localized in particular spots.

I agree that marbling is not an absolute proof that the animal has been grain fed, but that’s suspicious.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 29, 2010, 10:19:56 pm
- marbling which is just as on you horse meat photo, small parts of fat equally spread everywhere amongst the muscle 
But 95% of the horse meats that I buy are extremely lean. I always ask my seller to give me the most fatty parts, but I rarely get ones.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 29, 2010, 10:49:10 pm
But 95% of the horse meats that I buy are extremely lean. I always ask my seller to give me the most fatty parts, but I rarely get ones.
I hate it that when I buy raw horsemeat in Italy, they routinely cut off the fat in front of me. I have to tell  them in bad Italian to stop, and then they think I'm crazy.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yuli on December 30, 2010, 01:08:56 am
The horse meat that I buy is predominatingly very lean.
But sometimese it has got a little bit of fat; like that one.

I don't know much about horse meat as I have never tried it or saw it for sale here. Only from what I know I saying that the grain-fed steaks I buy have similar marbling sometimes (marbling is the term when the fat is woven throughout the muscle meat)...and the grass-fed steaks I buy have no marbling at all. Deer and goat I get has no marbling either. Lamb I get has plenty of fat on the sides and around the bone but non throughout the muscle meat parts.

When it comes to the sheep this theory is bullocks :D
The mutton is SO FATTY at the end of the summer, from animals eating ONLY grass, wild fruits, etc.
So much internal fat.

Yes a lot of fat but its all connected to the meat as a pose to being evenly marbled throughout, thats the main difference I see.

The taste of badly fed animals meat can be great ....
Any vindication? I disagree.
Tyler probably too.

Yep, "badly fed" meaning not starved or anything, but giving animals plenty of grain will cause marbling. They can taste great if you get some of the nice expensive marbled steaks they taste divine. There is a lot of grain-fed meat that can taste like crap yes, but the "good" marbled meat is really good, even if you like the grass-fed stuff you can't say its not tasty, unless you haven't had a truly good marbled cow steak.

Again I have no idea because its possible some meats can marble on grass only!
However I doubt any wild ruminants will develop marbling, ever.

Heres a diagram of marbliness I found:

(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/17/2010/05/72139575fc7c56c297480548079b9bda/original.jpg)



Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on December 30, 2010, 01:22:29 am
Yes, that's it. The Australian horse meat I used to find in Switzerand was like the "Slight" one on your pics, but without the fat parts.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on December 30, 2010, 02:43:08 am
The marbling would get in the way of the muscle function. There's nothing good about it being there, it serves no purpose for padding or insulation, it can only be a malfunction.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 30, 2010, 03:05:19 am
The marbling would get in the way of the muscle function. There's nothing good about it being there, it serves no purpose for padding or insulation, it can only be a malfunction.
Intramuscular triglycerides can be used as the very good source of energy
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/issa108.htm
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 30, 2010, 03:15:27 am

Tyler probably too.
Yeah, I would certainly disagree. Once one gets used to the taste of raw meats, one generally finds that raw wild game tastes far superior to grassfed and that grassfed is superior to grainfed.

As for the issue of grassfed meats and fat, I have heard of 1  extreme-farming RVAFer that it is possible to build up some sizeable fats when feeding their animals on grass and not grains. He said that it takes  many years longer to build up sufficient fat-layers with 100 percent grassfeeding, and that he took great care to feed them on lots of extra herbs like clover etc.


Fat on wild animals does exist too, but is far less evident as wild animals naturally have to exercise a great deal throughout their lives.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on December 31, 2010, 03:06:24 am
Yeah, I would certainly disagree. Once one gets used to the taste of raw meats, one generally finds that raw wild game tastes far superior to grassfed and that grassfed is superior to grainfed.

Sure wild game as a stronger taste, domesticated animals meat is rather bland in comparison.

It just happened that I had a phone call last night from a friend farmer–hunter and raw-dieter since birth. He got a wild boar and asked me if I wanted some or even the whole beast. As my meat fridge was almost empty, I went to take it this morning. His younger brother and sister (also all raw) were there. As I knew they tried to eat some commercial beef sometimes, I asked them how it tastes compared to 100% grass fed beef. The answer is that sometimes it tastes not as good, but sometimes it tastes as good. Overall they agreed with me that there’s no way to know by the taste if the meat is ok or not.

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Fat on wild animals does exist too, but is far less evident as wild animals naturally have to exercise a great deal throughout their lives.

Yes, there’s usually little fat on wild mammals and I never saw any marbled meat from a wild mammal.  The wild boar I brought back today (http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/off-topic/plethora/msg58497/#msg58497) has almost no fat. Apparently they get some fat when they have access to corn fields.

To get back on topic, tonight I had "chocolata" clams first; then a while latter cauliflower, one and half carrots, a sweet patatoe, 2 avocados; and latter on 4 small persimmons.

François
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 31, 2010, 03:32:15 pm
Yes, there’s usually little fat on wild mammals (..)  Apparently they get some fat when they have access to corn fields.
That's not necessarily true.
It depends on the species.
Some animals are more predisposed to getting fat while the others stay quite lean regardless of what they eat.
There are very fatty wild seals, walruses, polar bears and relatively lean caribous. And neither of them have got access to any corns whatsover.
In Africa there are fatty hippos and very lean antelopes; still no acorns.
Look at the Iberico Black Pigs - http://tiny.pl/hct9t
They practically only eat grass and acorns. Quite fatty they are, arent they?
But give the same food to goats and they will remain very lean.
On the other hand the sheep on the same grazing could get heckuva fat.
And so on...
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on December 31, 2010, 04:02:26 pm
There are very fatty wild seals, walruses, polar bears and relatively lean caribous. And neither of them have got access to any corns whatsover.

Yes, I agree: I was just talking about the wild animals we have access here in temperate climates. There might be exceptions, though.

Cheers
François
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 31, 2010, 04:19:57 pm
I was just talking about the wild animals we have access here in temperate climates.  
Wild boars, bears or wisents are IMO definitely much fatter than the deers, even without any grains.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on December 31, 2010, 04:40:19 pm
Can you get bear and wisent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisent) meat in Poland? I never found any.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on December 31, 2010, 04:41:11 pm
There are very fatty wild seals

These are only fatty in comparison to non-fatty wild animals, from what I've seen. They still appear to have nowhere near as much fat as domesticated animals.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 31, 2010, 06:57:57 pm
These are only fatty in comparison to non-fatty wild animals, from what I've seen. They still appear to have nowhere near as much fat as domesticated animals.
That's obviously untrue.
The seals are soooooo fatty, that their fat not only have sufficed for eating purposes among Inuits, but also have been used for heating by them.
On the other hand domesticated animals can be very lean.  
Can you get bear and wisent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisent) meat in Poland? I never found any. 
Bear - not.
But wisent is available, although not so easily.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on December 31, 2010, 07:21:33 pm
Actually,I read somewhere that while seals do have a lot of fat in the form of blubber, their actual meat is very lean indeed.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 31, 2010, 07:26:28 pm
Actually,I read somewhere that while seals do have a lot of fat in the form of blubber, their actual meat is very lean indeed.
Come on...
the whole carcass is what it's important
a lot of blubber = fatty seal
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on December 31, 2010, 07:38:37 pm
On the videos of inuit eating seals, when they cut it open it does not look particularly fatty, even the blubber.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on December 31, 2010, 08:33:28 pm
On the videos of inuit eating seals, when they cut it open it does not look particularly fatty, even the blubber.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sgklLvVdR4Q/Sg3qm21SmUI/AAAAAAAABOo/fQnBKlgA9EA/s400/IMG_0683.JPG)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on January 01, 2011, 03:11:07 am
If only I could just wrap myself up in that slab of fat and stay there forever... ftw
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ys on January 03, 2011, 10:52:32 am
liver of white tail deer we harvested about one month ago.
nothing like beef, bison, or lamb liver.  the sweetness is about the same but with much different flavor.  and texture is kind of crunchy.

i did locate two worm cysts (i think that's what they were).  small things, outer shell is transparent and another solid white ball inside.  it probably has more.  it's been in the freezer for a month so i'm not worried too much about it.

hopefully we'll get more deers later this year.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CHK91 on January 04, 2011, 11:26:35 am
Right now I have a lot of beef since my farmer doesn't have enough lamb available until spring, and I don't want to eat raw pork. I plan to order some bison and lamb products from slankers, when I get another freezer.

I've been eating loin roast with kidney today. The fat attached to the kidney tastes really good.

I have been eating about 4 eggs and 1 avocado regularly. I stopped all the dairy because I noticed, after being off it a few days and adding it back, that my mood was slightly "different."

I ate a lot of fish this weekend and by the end of the weekend it started to taste really bad. It wasn't old fish. I guess that's my body's way of telling me that it doesn't want any more fish. XD
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on January 04, 2011, 11:32:55 am
lunch: venison, bison marrow, pork fat, and then some small pieces of beef thymus and lamb liver

dinner: a few oranges and dates, then some pecans and honey
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: sabertooth on January 04, 2011, 11:37:19 am
liver of white tail deer we harvested about one month ago.
nothing like beef, bison, or lamb liver.  the sweetness is about the same but with much different flavor.  and texture is kind of crunchy.

i did locate two worm cysts (i think that's what they were).  small things, outer shell is transparent and another solid white ball inside.  it probably has more.  it's been in the freezer for a month so I'm not worried too much about it.

hopefully we'll get more deers later this year.
I got a young buck(roadkill ) and its liver was very crisp without a single blemish

The goats I had killed a year ago had those cyst on it, I ate some of it but am still kind of worried about what the cyst where. I am not sure if its damaged tissue, or worms. I haven't had any issues so far.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on January 04, 2011, 12:57:19 pm
I tried to get a young doe the other day, it was hit by a car two hours earlier.
The cop told me I had to have a license to collect road kill!
Is your situation the same or did you just grab it?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: sabertooth on January 04, 2011, 01:52:52 pm
I just grab and go, You can stake out a roadkill and throw it off to the side and come back after hours to avoid 9 to five park rangers. If they approach you while you are moving it try and claim you are moving it away from the road or something clever. I live in the commonwealth of Kentucky and I have never been bothered by the law. I butcher and hang the skins of animals in my backyard and no one complains. I think the neighbors think I am some kind of warewolf.

Don't ask anyones permission and when the coast is clear just take it.
Just dont get caught by some crazed space ranger and you should be safe.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on January 06, 2011, 08:15:49 am
Ate 3/4 of a big marrow bone, and also this one had loads of delicious refreshing fat around the joint too, it was wonderful.

Ate some of a REALLY fresh bloody ox liver, delicious.

Had a most of a breast of lamb, and over a kilo of beef roasting joint.

I swallowed a small piece of bone though accidently and it was in my throat for a bit, now my throat feels dry from it =/

The butcher gave me some ox blood, out of a vac pack or something, but it'd gone tangy so I dunno how good it is to drink.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: sabertooth on January 06, 2011, 08:49:48 am
I drink the tangy blood from the beef cases I get, Just mixed a bit with some clam juice and it was refreshing. especially after a long day of work. I found these giant clams for 40 cents a piece and they were full of meat and juice.

I had clams, beef, bone marrow, lamb fat trimmings , two egg yolks, and some coconut butter for dinner tonight. I even ate a couple of olives for the first time in a long time, they were very tasty. I just got a new case of beef yesterday and it seems that my apatite always increases the first couple of days into a fresh case of beef.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: achillezzz on January 06, 2011, 09:43:08 am
You guys are so resourcefull!!!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on January 06, 2011, 09:45:28 am
lunch: 2 eggs, beef shank (with marrow), hog fat, lamb liver, sun dried tomatoes

dinner: beef brisket, marrow, hog fat, beef kidney, venison jerky
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ys on January 06, 2011, 10:28:53 am
i just finished a pair of white-tail kidneys.  if anyone wanted to eat kidneys but doesn't like taste/smell then try white-tail kidneys.  they have the mildest taste and smell out of all the kidneys i tried.
they were wrapped in really soft suet and had adrenals attached to it.  not bad.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CHK91 on January 06, 2011, 10:31:55 am
I tried some tongue today. I loved the texture of it. Fatty and satisfying ;D.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on January 06, 2011, 12:19:21 pm
Brunch, raw horse.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on January 06, 2011, 12:26:02 pm
Speaking of raw horse, I'm curious, Tyler--are you going to eat raw horsemeat again after your tapeworm experience?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on January 06, 2011, 03:11:55 pm
are you going to eat raw horsemeat again after your tapeworm experience?
I've eaten about 150 lbs of horse meat for 2 years now and I've never had any issue with it.
So I think that the chance to get a tapeworm is very small.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on January 06, 2011, 04:17:50 pm
Yes, extremely small, but only if the horse has not been fed with heated industrial food, cereals or whatever shit. I've eaten raw grass fed or wild Australian horse meat for more than 15 years, at least once a week in average and never had any problem. But I would not be surprised to get tapeworm from the meat of a horse (or beef) fed with hot dried grain for example.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on January 07, 2011, 12:22:01 am
Speaking of raw horse, I'm curious, Tyler--are you going to eat raw horsemeat again after your tapeworm experience?
Naturally. It wasn't a big deal, as it was such a rare event.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on January 07, 2011, 01:33:41 am
I ate some liver and flesh from those wild boar pieces. I'll choose a few plant foods a bit latter.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on January 07, 2011, 02:28:07 am
And a little choice for the next course! I just set a nice table to share it with you  ;)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: turkish on January 07, 2011, 02:36:22 am
Iguana,
 thats awesome. I am so jealous 
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on January 07, 2011, 03:46:56 am
iguana what is that yellow stuff? actually, can you label all of that. it's hard to tell from the pics. it looks like a lot of nuts? thanks.

btw, awesome rib rack and liver. looks delicious
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on January 07, 2011, 04:22:35 am
On the last pic, up, from left to right:
Deglet nour dates, soaked peas (the yellow stuff), chestnuts, almonds.
Middle:
Hazelnuts, dried figs, a fruit platter (with kiwis, persimmons, apples, pears), walnuts, a half coconut.
Down:
Bahri dates, leeches, a teak wood piece to break the macadamia nuts with the hammer, oranges, mandarins and bananas, macadamia nuts.

On the post with the meat, the unidentifiable stuff is seaweeds. The vegetables are cauliflower, carrots, fennel, celeriac, red pepper,broccoli, tomatoes. Needless to say, I didn’t eat all that for my dinner! Yes, the liver is delicious. The meat is still a bit too fresh for me.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: achillezzz on January 07, 2011, 04:33:18 am
Iguana so you eat a big meal at the end of the day or how is your daily eating goes I need that info  :)
and how many calories you eat per day?

Thanks
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on January 07, 2011, 04:39:16 am

Yes, my main meal is in the evening. When I was working outside, I just brought with me one kind only of fruits for my lunch. No breakfast.

I don’t have the slightest idea how much carbs and even calories I eat and I don’t give a damn about it...
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: yon yonson on January 07, 2011, 08:03:26 am
cool, thanks iguana.

i just walked hiked around today foraging. found some chickweed, wood sorrel, and henbit. the chickweed and wood sorrel were delicious! wood sorrel is really sour and pleasant. also found some turk's cap apples and some rose hips that i ate. found a load of pecans too but am saving them for later. it's amazing how much free food there is even in the winter when you know what to look for
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: turkish on January 07, 2011, 10:13:57 am
foraging is one thing i will definately try.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on January 08, 2011, 04:18:27 am
Probably a few hundred grams of fat, and about 1kg of fresh juicy bloody ox liver.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on January 08, 2011, 04:44:18 am
Man a FEAST! Nice pics!

BTW Iguana, def. seems liek instincto to me. Have a bunch of variety and go with your instincts lol
MAN THATS A FEAST
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on January 10, 2011, 08:52:27 pm
I had 12 raw quail eggs and a third of a  raw beef tongue.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: bharminder on January 15, 2011, 05:53:27 am
Here's what I'll be eating

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(http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/bharminder147/DSC04353.jpg)

(http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/bharminder147/DSC04354.jpg)

(http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/bharminder147/DSC04355.jpg)

12.5 pounds or 5.7 kgs

(http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/bharminder147/DSC04357.jpg)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ys on January 15, 2011, 10:25:52 am
deer spleen, i'm usually not really picky when it comes to taste but this spleen thing is not for the weak.  it definitely will take some time to get used to.

it looks almost black on the inside, like one big blood clot.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CHK91 on January 15, 2011, 10:43:15 am
I ate some raw buffalo fat, spleen, fermented cabbage, and avocado for dinner.

I liked the spleen. It sort of tastes like fresh sea urchin to me. XD It is very slimy so I found it hard to cut into smaller segments. Maybe my knife is really dull.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ys on January 15, 2011, 10:58:21 am
Quote
It is very slimy so I found it hard to cut into smaller segments

it is very easy to cut when it is partially frozen, like semi-solid.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: sabertooth on January 15, 2011, 11:50:35 am
I just got about a quarter calf on the table and Ive been picking at it. It taste kind of like lamb, Its different from any beef I have had yet, its almost got a game taste to is but its hard to describe. My butcher is a charity worker and he gave me a great deal.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on January 15, 2011, 11:50:54 am
I got some tripe today. It was in the raw meat section of Morrisons; it said on the packet that it was 100% tripe; and that it was prepared using only traditional methods.

I had assumed that it would only have been flushed thoroughly with water, and that it would be uncooked, but I'm not sure now after reading some comments about tripe on the internet.

Oh for fuck sake. Apparently you can only get tripe that's been BLEACHED, and PRE-BOILED... WHAT THE FUCK!? JESUS CHRIST I've been fucking poisoned wtf??? BLEACH ON FOOD!? COOKED MEAT IN THE RAW SECTION WTF!?

CUNTS!

Could I sue them? That'd be awesome.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on January 15, 2011, 01:01:02 pm
Well, we recommend avoiding supermarkets precisely because of such dubious practices.


I had half a kilo of raw wild boar today plus some tomatoes.

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on January 15, 2011, 03:23:19 pm
I had half a kilo of raw wild boar today
That's more or less the same amount of wild boar that I ate couple of minutes ago.  :)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Rawdietforhealth on January 17, 2011, 07:03:02 am
Tuna sashimi marinated with lemon extra virgin olive oil, tomato, onion, cilantro, and garlic. Got tired of eating plain raw fish  ;)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on January 20, 2011, 09:07:29 pm
c.300g of raw butter fish and c.200g of raw wild hare. Plus 1 or 2 raw tomatoes/pears.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on January 21, 2011, 05:53:27 am
8 egg yolks + some honey from a honeycomb.
But usually I eat the yolks on their own.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: turkish on January 21, 2011, 06:24:49 am
when in office i sometimes run out of food i get from home, since no good food (ones that we like) are available around office - i now have resorted to a unique snack.

japanese dried fish - called niboshi. its very satisfying and fills me up after some time, unlike other snacks which are addictive and keeps you munching.

Has anyone tried that here or does anyone know that is it cooked before drying?

I remember as a kid when we visited coastal fishing regions they used to dry raw fish in the sun, so i am guessing this is raw too.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: riy freeman on January 21, 2011, 09:48:58 am
its cooked
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on January 24, 2011, 07:27:29 am
over the weekend I had some pollock, ground up organs, a variety of mushroom, Florida avocado, and my first sea snails/barnacles that were attached to a plethora of oysters that I ate. bang bang bang.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on January 24, 2011, 07:37:55 am
I had half a kilo of raw wild boar plus some raw oranges and 1-2 raw tomatoes;
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Ioanna on January 24, 2011, 11:38:26 am
I had half a kilo of raw wild boar plus some raw oranges and 1-2 raw tomatoes;

do you eat all of this together? just curious about digestion
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on January 24, 2011, 04:37:15 pm
do you eat all of this together? just curious about digestion
  Usually not. I find it best to keep c. half an hour between eating fruits and eating meats.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Bronwen on January 26, 2011, 09:13:06 pm
Ostrich! Have just taken it out the fridge to warm up, will eat in about an hour or so. It looks very red and juicy, tasted a bit of the blood and it was delicious. Supposedly a very lean meat. Will post my eating/tasting experience later. Here's a photo of my meal:

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Bronwen on January 27, 2011, 05:38:58 pm
Well, ostrich not quite as rich as I had anticipated from the little taste of blood. Thought it would be quite venison-like, but actually blander than beef or lamb! I would still eat it again though, as it had a very agreeable texture for me - easy to chew, and very little of the chewy white connective tissue.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on January 28, 2011, 08:15:17 am
^^cool

today

ground organs, 1b wild sea scallop, few mason jars full of beef back fat, 1 whole beef kidney, dulse, oyster mushroom, some honeycomb.

bought a whole mackerel for tomorrowsss. its a big f@&ker.

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on January 28, 2011, 08:37:03 am
How are you going to eat that fekking mackerel? Will you prepare it in any way?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on January 28, 2011, 09:04:06 am
Got a load of "high-meat" to be  ready in 1 month's time. Haven't been able to have high-meat until recently.


Ate some raw sardines today and some pears.


Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on January 28, 2011, 10:46:33 am
How are you going to eat that fekking mackerel? Will you prepare it in any way?

nah  

http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/off-topic/what-are-you-eating-right-now/msg57249/#msg57249

just like these only bigger. I did get it cleaned but I eat everything else that is remaining, although i'm not stingy about the skin and and not opposed to just plain wasting some of it as you can see. I do eat the eyes. fairly fatty wild food $4/lb.

oh I had a white grapefruit today also, it was fantastic.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on January 28, 2011, 02:05:38 pm
Shredded organic carrots

chewed on some celery
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on January 29, 2011, 10:05:43 am
poor mans ceviche
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: raw on January 29, 2011, 12:01:04 pm
KD, it looks really yummy! Well, me and my another paleo best freind (from the forum) are enjoying raw beef tripes.  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on January 30, 2011, 07:15:32 am
nah  

http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/off-topic/what-are-you-eating-right-now/msg57249/#msg57249

just like these only bigger. I did get it cleaned but I eat everything else that is remaining, although i'm not stingy about the skin and and not opposed to just plain wasting some of it as you can see. I do eat the eyes. fairly fatty wild food $4/lb.

oh I had a white grapefruit today also, it was fantastic.
Thanks for the interesting info, KD. So you eat the meat, the eyes and some of the skin? Have you ever tried or considered eating the brain or any of the organs too? It's pretty neat that you can get mackerel with the innards intact. All mackerel and sardines larger than about 4 inches (and most fish in general) I've seen sold in my area were pre-cleaned of organs. It's nice that you can get wild whole mackerel at that low a price. I wish I could.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on January 30, 2011, 07:57:32 am
I meant I basically eat everything. I can't decipher pretty much anything in there which is why I get it cleaned so I don't eat the gall bladder. I've had some not cleaned and just eaten everything. I honestly can't tell what is the brain but I eat everything behind its face and down. the eyes are basically too hard to eat the entire thing (unless you just bolt it?) so I spit out the shell of it. I don't eat any skin really, although I have. Generally even Whole Foods has tons of uncut whole fishes laying around and cheap.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on January 30, 2011, 08:42:16 am
OK, thanks. There is no Whole Foods in my state yet, nor Trader Joe's for that matter.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on February 01, 2011, 05:50:08 am
Just had some raw oranges,  a raw salad with raw olive-oil and raw apple-cider vinegar, and 1 mouthful of raw sardines. It seems I can't face eating raw sardines much, these days. Back to raw grassfed and raw wild game shortly.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on February 02, 2011, 01:59:49 am
Today I had one orange and circa 1 kilo of raw 100% grassfed Hereford beef ribeye steak with wonderful soft and tasty fat.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actionhero on February 02, 2011, 06:15:30 am
today

10 mandarins
1 liter raw milk
250 gr raw lean meat
10 raw eggs
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on February 06, 2011, 01:29:26 am
OK, thanks. There is no Whole Foods in my state yet, nor Trader Joe's for that matter.

Well the secret (or at least as far as my knowledge) is that all markets and supermarkets generally go to the same fish markets. So basically if I buy wild scallops at Stop & Shop, its like the same shit at WF only like $8.00 cheaper per lb. If you trust that your market is wild and unfrozen, caught within a day or so, then it should be good to eat, particularly if it is whole.


---
here are some recent stuff. The blow with my scissors did not kill this beast, and even after I cut its whole upper body/head off it still was moving around. So much for amnesty from a pot of boiling water.


Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on February 06, 2011, 02:46:55 am
One is supposed to put lobsters into the freezer compartment for an hour or so, which makes them fall into suspended animation. Then you can kill them without them being aware, let alone crawling around.

*I have recently been eating lots of this "vogerlsalat" - normally in the UK, I have a raw salad about once a year at most, but this new salad is unusually tasty. I have also been eating raw wild boar and a couple of oranges at the moment.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on February 06, 2011, 04:13:04 am
Well the secret (or at least as far as my knowledge) is that all markets and supermarkets generally go to the same fish markets. So basically if I buy wild scallops at Stop & Shop, its like the same shit at WF only like $8.00 cheaper per lb.
I haven't seen much in the way of whole fish at any of my local markets, but I'll continue to keep my eye out. For a few weeks out of the year one local market has small quantities of expensive whole sardines for sale. I tried them and unfortunately found the guts to be bitter, as someone else mentioned above.

Someone even takes the trouble of cleaning out the tiny little smelt sold at the local Shaws supermarket and the even tinier sardines in the cans (I wouldn't want that job :D ). The modern aversion to guts goes to laughable extremes at times.

I see lots of egg cartons in your photo. How many eggs did you eat at once?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on February 06, 2011, 04:19:48 am

I see lots of egg cartons in your photo. How many eggs did you eat at once?

I usually just eat 6 a day at once in the morning. sometimes 12. sometimes none. On a few rare occasions I've had alot more. Sometimes I will eat some when I get back from work/gym if I havn't been letting any other food sit out. Then i'll have a later dinner.

here was like a bender of not cleaning up after myself. I ate tons of suet this week and theres an orange peel and some other crap strew about.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on February 06, 2011, 04:30:06 am
With eating all those eggs, have your irises lightened at all (greener or bluer)?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on February 06, 2011, 04:41:10 am
With eating all those eggs, have your irises lightened at all (greener or bluer)?

actually yeah, I don't know if it is the eggs, but I have those sought after greens. Although growing up I had hazel, which is closer to green I guess. They have some brownish center it seems though. Probably indicative of something ominous. :)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: riy freeman on February 06, 2011, 05:32:05 am
probably the t-virus ;D
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: achillezzz on February 06, 2011, 08:28:07 pm
Do you have junk food days ?

Today I woke up ate HUGE SALAD WITH TONS OF CHEESE + 2 HUGE SANDWICHES WITH PORK MEAT COMMERCIAL OF COURSE
+ HUGE BOWEL OF CHOCOLATE CEREAL AND 1LITER OF COMERCIAL MILK

+half liter orange juice

now of for some teaaa

The funny thing is that I feel alright I dont eat shit often but this time I feel gooood really good lol

I have totally sinned today forgive me please guys

EDIT:

Been few hours now I feel very sad the food is still in my stomach dont have any cramps but I do feel little dizziness and want to vomit but I wont it wil disapear after half hour.

Every month I have a junk food day but it always reminds me why I should stick to raw paleo
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on February 07, 2011, 12:51:26 am
Do you have junk food days ?

I used to have junk food days. Not anymore though, I just do not desire junk food anymore and feel it is only net negative.
People ask me "don't you just want to have a soda sometime?" The answer is no. Never.
I love fresh meat and fresh dairy. The only thing I eat that is not raw would be zizania or yams.
Edit/ Sometimes cooked broccoli/carrots too. And with fermented foods like sour kraut and kimchee to replenish some of the bacteria/
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on February 07, 2011, 04:13:40 am
actually yeah, I don't know if it is the eggs, but I have those sought after greens. Although growing up I had hazel, which is closer to green I guess. They have some brownish center it seems though. Probably indicative of something ominous. :)
The cysteine in egg yolks and other foods (like poultry, garlic, onions, broccoli and Brussels sprouts) reportedly inhibits melanin production. The remaining brown in your eyes probably just means you have enough melanin production to maintain some brown, or that you have a lethal disease. (joke)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on February 08, 2011, 02:29:56 am
I ate 5 of my own hens eggs late this morning, then litchis and bananas later and tonight I just had some of the last wild boar leg that I got on December 30. (http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/off-topic/plethora/msg58497/#msg58497)
It tastes great!

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on February 08, 2011, 03:13:34 am
The cysteine in egg yolks and other foods (like poultry, garlic, onions, broccoli and Brussels sprouts) reportedly inhibits melanin production.

    Where is it reported? Does it matter whether the cysteine is raw or cooked for this effect?  I avoided cooked egg yolks, baked desserts that had eggs altogether, and hated cooked broccoli and brussel sprouts as a kid, yet loved other green vegetables cooked or raw and had no problem with saltines, plain rice and little problem with non-sweet bread.  My melanin production can be spotty.  Was I unconsciously avoiding and hating those foods because they put too much stress on my already messed up melanogenesis or something maybe?  Presently I dislike onions and garlic, and I tried lightly cooked chicken, and it seemed to affect me very badly, whereas raw chicken is great, and even cooked beef bone I can tolerate in moderation rarely.  Raw kale has made me sick (isn't that broccoli-like?).

    I've been loving raw liver lately, it gives me fantastic dreams (when sleeping right after eating).  Just ate some a minute ago.  Each day this week I ate chicken liver, calf liver and beef liver, all pasture raised.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on February 08, 2011, 06:27:59 am
I am now having  1 half-kilo of raw "seelachsfilet" whatever fish that is in English!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on February 08, 2011, 08:44:21 am
"seelachsfilet"

That sounds delicious,

I had swordfish last night  ;D
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on February 09, 2011, 04:29:53 am
That sounds delicious,


Hehe. That's the reason why we say "Seelachs" in Germany. The original german name is "Köhler", which sounds not very attracting to customers. Lachs means salmon but "Seelachs" has nothing to do with the salmon species. Seelachs in english: pollack. I can't eat much of it...

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Bronwen on February 09, 2011, 06:39:31 pm
Last night I got given a whole IMPALA from one of my yoga students whose husband runs a game farm! Was killed last week, he hung it for  a few days and then got thier butcher to cut it up for me. I have had to freeze all the 'meal-size' cuts, but enough space in my fridge for two legs.

Well, guess it's going to be wild impala for days to come! Had a tiny taste after class last night as I was unpacking and freezing, delicious. The dogs thought so too!!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on February 10, 2011, 02:11:07 am
Last night I got given a whole IMPALA from one of my yoga students whose husband runs a game farm! Was killed last week, he hung it for  a few days and then got thier butcher to cut it up for me. I have had to freeze all the 'meal-size' cuts, but enough space in my fridge for two legs.

Well, guess it's going to be wild impala for days to come! Had a tiny taste after class last night as I was unpacking and freezing, delicious. The dogs thought so too!!

Hi Bronwen,

as far as I know Impalas a very lean animals. I would like to know: Do they have fat at all? (backfat, kidney fat etc.)? Was it a grass fed animal?

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Bronwen on February 10, 2011, 03:06:17 pm
Hi Bronwen,

as far as I know Impalas a very lean animals. I would like to know: Do they have fat at all? (backfat, kidney fat etc.)? Was it a grass fed animal?

Löwenherz


Yes, you are right, they are very lean animals, no significant back or kidney fat. But will supplement with buying more fatty meats to give me some variation. Yes, grass fed, as in wild indigenous bush diet. It is a large game farm he runs with many large wild herbivores (rhino, zebra, eland, kudu, many antelope species). They also have a herd of wild goats and he says their meat is amazing, will give me half the next time he shoots for himself.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on February 10, 2011, 03:25:28 pm
    Last I ate, maybe a half hour ago, was plain calf liver I had cut into bite size chunks without using metal.  I didn't eat or drink anything with it and no sauce/dip.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Bronwen on February 10, 2011, 09:04:48 pm
    Last I ate, maybe a half hour ago, was plain calf liver I had cut into bite size chunks without using metal.  I didn't eat or drink anything with it and no sauce/dip.

Is there a reason for not using metal to cut your liver? Does it give it a metallic taste? What about other raw meat?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on February 11, 2011, 12:10:45 pm
Even steaks I'm not so keen on, I prefer big hunks of meat. Something weird goes on with meat that's cut too thin, like it takes too much saliva from my mouth or something and messes up the taste and digestion.

I love the fat around the joints attached to beef leg bones, one of the more recent tastes that I've experienced(within the last few months) and I had some today.
Title: Nuts?
Post by: Löwenherz on February 12, 2011, 02:12:09 am
Yes, you are right, they are very lean animals, no significant back or kidney fat. ...

Geoff Bond mentions in his books that tribesman in the bush eat nuts as their main fat source.
That would compensate the very lean game meat.

Unfortunately I found all nuts I tried so far completely useless regarding nutrition. I get digestive trouble from nuts. Furthermore I always get moody if I eat more than a handful of (100%) raw nuts.

Are there fat wild animals in southern Africa available at all?

What are your experiences with nuts?

What do other members here think about eating nuts?

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on February 12, 2011, 02:41:49 am
I've never had any problems eating nuts, except that I didn't like very much walnuts before, but since last winter I began to like it and suddenly became able to eat a lot of them. I also like almonds, hazelnuts, pecans, macadamias, pine nuts, chestnuts, coconuts. 
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Susan on February 12, 2011, 04:12:04 am
What are your experiences with nuts?

I like all sorts of nuts. I eat never more than 150g but that's enough to satisfy me.

Unfortunately I found all nuts I tried so far completely useless regarding nutrition. I get digestive trouble from nuts. Furthermore I always get moody if I eat more than a handful of (100%) raw nuts.

Do you eat nuts mono? Or do you mix them with dried fruits? Sometimes digestive troubles arise from a lack of salt and therefore from a lack of gastric acid. Do you eat pure salt or drink seawater?

But maybe your body needs other stuff more than nuts at the moment. I would try different kinds of nuts from time to time and observe if the needs change.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Ioanna on February 12, 2011, 08:17:46 am

Unfortunately I found all nuts I tried so far completely useless regarding nutrition. I get digestive trouble from nuts.


the same for me.  when i tried to eat them, it was mono, no salt.
Title: Re: Nuts?
Post by: Bronwen on February 13, 2011, 01:06:26 am
Are there fat wild animals in southern Africa available at all?
I am not sure - will have to find out. It will be part of my learning curve in RPD!

Quote
What are your experiences with nuts?

Haven't eaten nuts in a while. Used to eat regularly and enjoy them, but never fresh from the shells - just didn't see them around that much. I digested them fine unless I ate more than about 50-60g, depending on how fatty they were (I did better on seeds and raw seed butters, especially tahini...but too easy to overeat on it as I liked it so much). Any more than that made me feel heavy and bloated.
Anyway, I read that because the already shelled nuts are usually heat-treated they can cause teeth problems (encourage decay), as they stick to teeth much like dried fruit. So stopped eating nuts end of November last year, as I have a few teeth showing signs of decay. My teeth certainly feel a lot better, though I have changed other factors as well, like including raw meat and lowering fruit intake to once a day. Also nuts used to be mainly a 'snack' between meals, and I have stopped all 'snacking' and just stick to two meals a day, so that may be making a difference too.

the salt story is interesting - I sometimes used to take a tiny pinch of himalayan salt with my nuts and I could eat more then than the 50-60g, now that I think about it.......
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on February 14, 2011, 04:00:09 pm
I like all sorts of nuts. I eat never more than 150g but that's enough to satisfy me.

Do you eat nuts mono? Or do you mix them with dried fruits? Sometimes digestive troubles arise from a lack of salt and therefore from a lack of gastric acid. Do you eat pure salt or drink seawater?

But maybe your body needs other stuff more than nuts at the moment. I would try different kinds of nuts from time to time and observe if the needs change.

Yes, I usually eat nuts mono (if I eat nuts at all). Somehow I can't digest the fats in nuts. Coconut cream, animal fats and olive oil are ok...

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on February 26, 2011, 11:07:03 pm
In pictures...

http://www.myhealthblog.org/2011/02/26/paleo-diet-raw-paleo-diet-saturday-lunch-meat-feast-let-them-eat-meat/
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on March 07, 2011, 06:22:30 am
Slippers AKA "boat shoes"

2-3 pehaps make up the meat of an oyster. you can see it by the tip of the knife.

had to be around 50-60 in this bag all sucked on top of each other. Not bad for 10 bones.

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on March 24, 2011, 06:24:29 pm
I am ordering some raw  wild boar "stomach-meat" which is supposedly very fatty indeed. It's a lot cheaper too so that's useful. Will see what it's like early next week.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on March 24, 2011, 09:17:28 pm
Had coconut meat and coconut juice for dinner.

Late lunch I had juicy sirloin.

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on March 25, 2011, 12:51:02 pm
Half pound of Mahi Mahi for dinner.  ;D
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on April 07, 2011, 12:46:45 am
Ate kale with a large green caterpillar, lettuce with several small brownish caterpillars, as well as tarragon and coriander. Just trying the green stuff out, and the caterpillars came as an extra.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on April 07, 2011, 12:49:26 am
1kg of raw moufflon "stewing steak". Plus some tomatoes and oranges.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on April 08, 2011, 09:12:39 am
    I walked down to the beach this afternoon and ate fermented hidefat and fermented wildcaught whole mackerel, both never been frozen.  I bought a knife and plate on the way, so it was a little civilized.  I spit out the bones.  I shared my food with seagulls and pigeons too.  The male pigeons seemed to get horny from the food.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on April 09, 2011, 12:29:21 am
Ate kale with a large green caterpillar, lettuce with several small brownish caterpillars, as well as tarragon and coriander. Just trying the green stuff out, and the caterpillars came as an extra.

Greens can be very helpful in cases with candida problems.

What are your experiences with greens so far?

Löwenherz


Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on April 09, 2011, 06:14:36 am
Greens can be very helpful in cases with candida problems.

What are your experiences with greens so far?

Löwenherz


Don't know, only been eating them for 3 days so not long enough to tell.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on April 09, 2011, 07:53:01 pm
What are your experiences with greens so far?

Ok... I've been eating some green stuff.. lettuce, herbs etc during the day, chewing thoroughly and not eating a vast amount, and leaving quite a lot of hours before eating meat in the evening, but... I've found that the meat is obstructed by the veg, and in the night I will feel sick until I pass the veg, and then I'm ok again.. I don't know if this is because I need to adapt to eating plants, or what.. but I will go back to eating ZC again for now. I also got one small acne pimple on my face related to eating the veg, but again I don't know if this would change if I adapted to eating the veg. I don't know if I should be adapted or not.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: sabertooth on April 09, 2011, 08:11:46 pm
Ok... I've been eating some green stuff.. lettuce, herbs etc during the day, chewing thoroughly and not eating a vast amount, and leaving quite a lot of hours before eating meat in the evening, but... I've found that the meat is obstructed by the veg, and in the night I will feel sick until I pass the veg, and then I'm ok again.. I don't know if this is because I need to adapt to eating plants, or what.. but I will go back to eating ZC again for now. I also got one small acne pimple on my face related to eating the veg, but again I don't know if this would change if I adapted to eating the veg. I don't know if I should be adapted or not.

This has been my experience with reintroducing vegetables and greens into my diet, I will feel bloated and uncomfortable until the vegetative matter passes through . I can tolerate an occasional avocado, or tomato, but as for greens and other vegetables I avoid almost completely. I used to eat okra a bit, but even that will make me feel uncomfortably full after eating a few pieces.

It seems like the longer I go without vegetation the more intolerant I become to it. I am in the boat where I feel well enough without vegetables to question if its necessary to even try to re adapt to tolerating more plant foods.

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on April 09, 2011, 09:51:59 pm
... I've found that the meat is obstructed by the veg, and in the night I will feel sick until I pass the veg, and then I'm ok again..

What do you mean by "meat is obstructed by the veg"?
Constipation? Bloating?

Maybe Aajonus is right. He says that raw veg impairs meat digestion and recommends green juices therefore. If I remember correctly he sees veg juices primarily as a mineral source and not (as mentioned by Tyler) as a carb/fruit substitute.

I have noticed that I can eat lean meats plus fruits plus vegetables without trouble. But animal fats make me very intolerant to any veg including fruit.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: klowcarb on April 11, 2011, 08:49:34 pm
Currently in love with beef tongue!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Josh on April 11, 2011, 08:56:30 pm
I could eat egg yolks all day, but it wouldn't be a great diet. Gonna get started on some high tongue and kidney in a bit.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on April 12, 2011, 04:30:07 am
Grass fed beef, about a pound of chuck roast and and half pound of heart.
Had some duck eggs too. Delicious  ;D
Some papaya also!

Klowcarb... I am going to be showing your beautiful picture to a girl I know who is on the fence about eating raw meat.
You should put something in the before and after section!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on April 12, 2011, 06:04:59 am
Inner Skirt of beef; bone marrow.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on April 12, 2011, 02:18:27 pm
Half a kilo of raw moufflon plus some tomatoes.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on April 13, 2011, 02:15:25 pm
I have just been eating the tastiest raw-meat dish ever. It was raw wild boar but the shoulder, not fillet or stewing-steak. As a result, the meat was very fatty indeed and had a unique taste which absolutely wowed me. I will mostly  buy that kind of cut from now on.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: actup90 on April 13, 2011, 02:18:44 pm
I love shoulder meat! Been eating it with organs for a couple months  ;D
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on April 14, 2011, 04:31:15 am
I have just been eating the tastiest raw-meat dish ever. It was raw wild boar but the shoulder, not fillet or stewing-steak. As a result, the meat was very fatty indeed and had a unique taste which absolutely wowed me. I will mostly  buy that kind of cut from now on.

I couldn't agree more!

BTW: Is wild boar considered as red meat or white meat in UK?

According to Aajonus, in US pork is considered as white meat. In Germany it's usually sorted into the red meat department.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hannibal on April 14, 2011, 04:44:48 am
Yeah, the fatty parts of wild boar meat are indeed awesome. I eat lots of them.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on April 14, 2011, 08:43:41 am
I couldn't agree more!

BTW: Is wild boar considered as red meat or white meat in UK?

According to Aajonus, in US pork is considered as white meat. In Germany it's usually sorted into the red meat department.

Löwenherz

  I suppose that raw wild boar should be considered red meat as it is so dark red. Pork is only considered white meat, as grainfed pork looks so white and pale.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Rawdietforhealth on April 22, 2011, 09:46:19 am
Decided to keep track of everything I ate for the past five days.  Over time, I have adjusted my almost 95% raw paleo diet to include other cooked paleo dishes.  Had a good discussion with Chris Kresser about my diet and have put some things in a different perspective now.


Fri
Wake up
12 oz distiller water with juice from 6 small calamansi fruit
 
Breakfast
8oz Tuna Sashimi with fresh garlic, tomato, and cold-pressed olive oil
Camote top juice 8 oz
*One fresh avocado
*8 oz fresh orange juice with grated ginger and turmeric 
*250 mg chelated magnesium supplement

Later one whole young coconut with the meat of the coconut

Lunch
Tomato and cucumber salad with braggs raw apple cider vinegar 
16 oz fresh juice from cucumber, zucchini, celery spinach, parsley, cilantro, and *one teaspoon raw unheated honey

Later - 3 raw organic chicken yolks 
juice of organic carrot (4), cucumber (1), celery (4 stalks), and parsley

Dinner
*Slightly steamed ocean shrimp with cold-pressed olive oil
*Steamed organic broccoli and cauliflower 
one whole young coconut with the meat of the coconut
*A dozen longan berries

*Snack organic popcorn cooked dry in a glass bowl in the microwave - unheard cold pressed olive oil & a pinch of himalayan sea salt (once a week snack)

Before bed
*8oz raw whole kefir milk 
One whole young coconut with the meat of the coconut

Sat
Wake up
12 oz distiller water with juice from 6 calamansi fruit

Breakfast
8 oz seared very rare grass fed tenderloin
Sauce of cold pressed olive oil, garlic, basil and rosemary
*One avocado
Camote top juice 8oz
*8oz orange juice with fresh gated ginger and turmeric 
*250 mg chelated magnesium supplement

Later one whole very young coconut 

Lunch 
*Grilled chicken - breast part (probably commercially raised) natural picante sauce of tomato, chili pepper, and olive oil
One young coconut with the coconut meat

Dinner
12 oz tenderloin lightly grilled (commercially raised since we were at a party)
*One small grilled squid
Salad of tomato, cucumber, onion, carrots with *minimal olive and vinegar salad dressing - non organic
Juice from two very young coconut 
*One glass of red wine
*8oz - Perrier water

Before bed 
*8 oz raw whole kefir milk
12 oz coconut water with meat of the coconut

Sunday
Wake up
12 oz distiller water with juice from 6 calamansi fruit

Breakfast
*12 medium size ocean shrimp slightly boiled
Sauce of cold pressed olive oil and garlic
*One avocado
Camote top juice 8oz
*8oz orange juice with fresh gated ginger and turmeric 
*250 mg chelated magnesium supplement

One whole coconut with the young coconut meat

Lunch
3 raw organic chicken egg yolks
 juice of 4 organic carrots, one cucumber, 4 stalks celery, and parsley
One whole very young coconut 
Salad of on tomato & one cucumber with bragg's apple cider vinegar

12 longan berries

Dinner
One whole very young coconut
*Steamed squash
*Grilled chicken - breast part (probably commercially raised) natural picante sauce of tomato, chili pepper, and olive oil

*20 longan berries

*8 oz whole raw kefir milk
12 oz young coconut water

Monday
12 oz distiller water with juice from 6 calamansi fruit

Breakfast
8 oz seared very rare grass fed tenderloin
Sauce of cold pressed olive oil, garlic, basil and rosemary
*One avocado
Camote top juice 8oz
*8oz orange juice with fresh gated ginger and turmeric 
*250 mg chelated magnesium supplement

One whole young coconut with the meat of the coconut

Lunch
3 raw organic chicken yolks 
16 oz juice of organic carrot (4), cucumber (1), celery (4 stalks), and parsley

Later
Tomato and cucumber salad with braggs raw apple cider vinegar 
16 oz fresh juice from cucumber, zucchini, celery spinach, parsley, cilantro, and *one teaspoon raw unheated honey

Dinner
12 oz Tuna Sashimi with fresh garlic, tomato, and cold-pressed olive oil
Boiled Sweet potato 
*Small portion of organic brown rice 
One whole young coconut with the meat of the coconut

*20 longan berries

*8 oz whole raw kefir milk
12 oz young coconut water

Tuesday
12 oz distiller water with juice from 6 calamansi fruit

Breakfast
8 oz seared very rare grass fed tenderloin
Sauce of cold pressed olive oil, garlic, basil and rosemary
*1/2 avocado
Camote top juice 8oz
* ground organic ginger supplement and fresh turmeric 
*250 mg chelated magnesium supplement

one whole young coconut with the meat of the coconut

Lunch
Tomato and cucumber salad with braggs raw apple cider vinegar with 1/2 avocado
16 oz fresh juice from cucumber, zucchini, celery spinach, parsley, cilantro, and *one teaspoon raw unheated honey

Later - 2 raw organic chicken yolks 
juice of organic carrot (4), cucumber (1), celery (4 stalks), and parsley

Dinner
*8oz baked norwegian salmon (unfortunately not wild salmon which is impossible to find in the Philippines) with unheated cold-pressed olive oil, garlic, and dill
*Steamed organic broccoli and cauliflower 
*Lightly backed shiitake mushrooms in cold-pressed olive oil
One whole young coconut with young coconut meat

Wednesday

Wake up
12 oz distiller water with juice from 6 small calamansi fruit
 
Breakfast
8oz Tuna Sashimi with fresh garlic, tomato, and cold-pressed olive oil
Camote top juice 8 oz
*One/half a fresh avocado

Lunch
3 raw organic duck yolks 
16 oz juice of organic carrot (2), cucumber (1), celery (4 stalks), and parsley

Later
Organic grape tomatoes and cucumber salad with braggs raw apple cider vinegar with 1/2 avocado
16 oz fresh juice from cucumber, zucchini, celery spinach, parsley, cilantro, and *one teaspoon raw unheated honey

Dinner
12oz seared very rare grass fed tenderloin
Sauce of cold pressed olive oil, garlic, basil and rosemary
Steamed broccoli, cauliflower, and sweet potato
ground ginger and turmeric 
*250 mg chelated magnesium supplement
One whole young coconut with the meat of the coconut

 * recently added after more than 3 months strictly raw paleo
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on April 23, 2011, 12:24:47 am
(http://www.myhealthblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/08-banaue-native-village-inn-raw-beef-view.jpg)

My raw beef went up the mountains to Banaue Rice Terraces and beyond.  Nice view from Native Village Inn with bone marrow, raw beef and beef with vinegar garlic and pepper.

full story and more pictures
http://www.myhealthblog.org/2011/04/22/native-village-inn-uhaj-banaue-rice-terraces-welcome-to-paradise/
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CHK91 on April 23, 2011, 12:28:17 am
That view is incredible.  :o

The only landscapes you can see in my area are flat plains and shallow hills. :P
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on April 23, 2011, 11:51:46 pm
Today morning I stocked my fridge with wild boar meat from the hunter.

I just ate raw wild boar shoulder meat.

Is there ANY better food on this planet? Definetely not!

Please don't tell it anyone...  ;)

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Rawdietforhealth on April 25, 2011, 11:18:28 pm
(http://www.myhealthblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/08-banaue-native-village-inn-raw-beef-view.jpg)

My raw beef went up the mountains to Banaue Rice Terraces and beyond.  Nice view from Native Village Inn with bone marrow, raw beef and beef with vinegar garlic and pepper.

full story and more pictures
http://www.myhealthblog.org/2011/04/22/native-village-inn-uhaj-banaue-rice-terraces-welcome-to-paradise/

Great photos!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on May 11, 2011, 02:32:00 pm
Had some raw beef liver and a lot of bone marrow.

Also had some beef muscle.

Then I had a handful of duhat fruit. (the dark purple ones in the picture)

The greenish other fruit is siniguelas, I'll try that later.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CitrusHigh on May 11, 2011, 08:06:30 pm
Here Gs, check this little guy out. These are the meal worms we have available here. They are not terribly large, nor terribly abundant, so I wouldn't want to have to live off of them, but they are very nutrient dense, well fed. They can be found in piles of firewood and under tree bark. They're about 1.5 - 2 in long. And just like wildcaught fish compared to farmed fish these little guys are much more nutrient dense than those you'll find in the pet store.

The flavor is watery and mildly sweet, there is much more texture than there is flavor, but both together are mild and pleasant. Nothing striking, the other grub I ate a week or two ago was much more flavorful and juicy. I'll be keeping my eyes out for more. I thought about taking a pic in my mouth, but that seemed a little gaudy.

Thanks little wormy for feeding me!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: sabertooth on May 23, 2011, 10:06:15 am
(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk1/sarahab88/cd0bf9dc.jpg)
This is a bit of my calf I got with from the documentary people. There is some lamb fat, aged meat, and coconut butter. Some of the calf is bits of minced up T bone and is the most tender red meat ever.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: bharminder on May 24, 2011, 10:39:56 am
Sushi w/ salmon, cucumber, dulse, carrots, horseradish, wrapped in nori rolls
10 clams, 2 oysters, and 1 coconut. I didn't eat this whole meal at once but I tried to.

(http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/bharminder147/DSC04407.jpg)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: bharminder on May 24, 2011, 10:41:15 am
Cod, Beef liver, kale, coconut, carrot, celery, cucumber

(http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/bharminder147/DSC04411.jpg)
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Post by: bharminder on May 24, 2011, 10:42:19 am
Chicken breast, lettuce bunch

(http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad206/bharminder147/DSC04417.jpg)
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Post by: actup90 on May 29, 2011, 06:22:50 am
Thursday I killed my first rooster. What an experience!
Such an awakening experience.

I stuck it in the fridge over night, hung him by the feet outside in the morning until the afternoon.
Ate all of the meat piece by piece off the animal with knife and teeth, including the heart, liver, and gonads.
The meat was so good. This was one of the most enjoyed meals of my life. I hope to do it again sometime soon.
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Post by: Josh on May 29, 2011, 07:24:52 am
It's not quite raw paleo, but thought I'd share that I had rare biltong today.

There's a stall that does the proper stuff, and I did what another guy did and ordered some soft stuff, which turned out to be pink and rare in the middle, although obviously it's cured.

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Post by: TylerDurden on May 29, 2011, 01:06:29 pm
I had my usual raw wild boar shoulder yesterday. Will soon be eating mostly raw horsemeat.
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Post by: Hannibal on May 29, 2011, 08:13:29 pm
Will soon be eating mostly raw horsemeat.
In Italy? Be careful with those tapeworms ;)
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Post by: goodsamaritan on June 02, 2011, 12:06:36 am
2 day ago picture: there was left over blue marlin sashimi and uni sea urchin from my son's birthday party.

The green stuff is wasabe from the party.

The salad stuff is labanos with mango and tomato, the maids made that for themselves.
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Post by: goodsamaritan on June 02, 2011, 12:08:36 am
I've been constantly eating this fantastic 2 kilo beef sirloin cut I bought since Sunday.
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Post by: Barban on June 06, 2011, 05:31:34 pm
Roasted Duck
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Post by: goodsamaritan on June 07, 2011, 03:00:15 am
Roasted Duck

WT ???
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Post by: RawZi on June 07, 2011, 04:12:07 am
WT ???

http://www.paleodietbest.com/ (http://www.paleodietbest.com/)

    Barban's from a mostly cooked paleo site.  I noticed some of the recipes Barban posts in rawpaleodietforum have many ingredients, unlike most of the meals we eat.  Roast duck has one ingredient that I know of. I think a lot of people consider simple one ingredient things to be "raw" regardless of whether heated or not.  Denaturing of food, canning, heat created toxins, cold cooking with vinegar etc may not be things debated about for Barban before, or I could be reading too much in.

    Unless in Aruba roast duck is like me buying a roast cut of bison that's still raw?

    I ate raw whole (no shell) fertile never been chilled unwashed local eggs today, and unheated honey, basil off a plant, and a few pieces of an organic uncooked fresh lemon today.
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Post by: TylerDurden on June 08, 2011, 03:18:40 pm
Only raw foods are allowed to be posted about here.
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Post by: p0wer on June 16, 2011, 08:49:45 pm
0.5kg tongue.

I quickly need an advice: do you eat the whole tongue? I've never eaten before and the skin seems quite thick! Check the second pic. I can't cut through it with my knife..
And the meat is pretty much unchewable, my knife sucks so I tried biting with my teeth and well almost broke them :D Very very tasty though.

(http://i.imgur.com/hITI6.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/aNAh1.jpg)

Edit: alright I stripped off the skin. I don't think I'd eat that :) Naked tongue:

(http://i.imgur.com/235Lk.jpg)

Edit: funny how 500g of this meat is a lot cheaper than 100g beef steak :) Bon appetit!

(http://i.imgur.com/25Irx.jpg)
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Post by: Hannibal on June 17, 2011, 01:07:48 am
I quickly need an advice: do you eat the whole tongue? I've never eaten before and the skin seems quite thick! Check the second pic. I can't cut through it with my knife..
I do eat the whole tongue. The smaller it is the softer it is (lamb one for example).
The toughest is the end part so you've got to cut it to some smaller parts.
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Post by: goodsamaritan on June 17, 2011, 08:02:26 am
Pretty pics power!

This morning just had breakfast with the kids.

We had some chesa fruit.

cool raw honey and lemon juice with a new bottle of wild honey, a new green lemon source.

I think the yellow lemons taste better.
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Post by: sabertooth on June 19, 2011, 04:57:47 pm
I eat the whole tongue.

I have been eating a lot of tongue lately, at least 1 or two cow tongues each week.
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Post by: klowcarb on June 23, 2011, 10:54:46 pm
Beef tongue is my FAVORITE!!! I get it sliced super thin at the nearby Korean market. I use it instead of bacon.
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Post by: sabertooth on July 01, 2011, 10:14:39 am
High rabbit
clams
beef
bone marrow
fat trimmings
coconut butter

Its the beginning my birthday through the 4th of July feast.
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Post by: goodsamaritan on July 05, 2011, 09:10:04 pm
Its the beginning my birthday through the 4th of July feast.

Happy Birthday!

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Post by: goodsamaritan on July 05, 2011, 09:12:29 pm
This morning I had some papaya, then raw beef.

In between some 1 tablespoon of raw wild honey.

Lunch, more raw beef.

In between some 1 tablespoon of raw wild honey.

Dinner, pineapple.

Then raw shrimp dipped in coconut vinegar and a full clove of garlic.

Some more organic pineapple.
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Post by: achillezzz on July 05, 2011, 09:14:43 pm
30raw eggs a jar of honey 500 gram ground beef
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Post by: achillezzz on July 05, 2011, 09:15:28 pm
whole eggs btw
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Post by: goodsamaritan on July 06, 2011, 12:28:27 am
30raw eggs a jar of honey 500 gram ground beef

30 = THIRTY?

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Post by: actup90 on July 06, 2011, 08:36:01 am
I wish I could find that many eggs...
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Post by: submarine38 on July 06, 2011, 08:44:22 am
30raw eggs a jar of honey 500 gram ground beef

Wow. Is that by pure choice or did something lead you eat so many eggs in a day?
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Post by: Iguana on July 08, 2011, 03:09:59 am
Wild boar aged some weeks in my fridge. A nice and very tasty white coat of yeast formed on surface since that fridge seems to be sown now.

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Post by: HIT_it_RAW on July 08, 2011, 03:57:05 am
30raw eggs a jar of honey 500 gram ground beef
i wonder why you only get slings and arrows over the eggs. I find the JAR of honey a lot more extreme! See those hit workout make you hungry  ;D personally i would eat more meat and less eggs. but hey if it works for you. I hate ground beef, i like to do that myself with my lttle ceramic grinders  ;)

today
615   250gram beef 100gram liver 50butter teaspoon vco
930   avocado, apple, tomato
1300 whole pineaple, 2 kiwi's 0.5L raw milk kefir
1700 water with honey + pinch of salt (pre and during workout)
1730 0,6L milk + 4 whole eggs + tablespoon honey (post wo)
1830 300gr beef, 100gr liver, 50gr butter, glas milk
1930 tomato cucumber kiwi teaspoon vco
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Post by: raw-al on July 18, 2011, 07:17:41 pm
10 egg yolks - 8 chicken and 2 duck ones.
Here I'm devouring duck one ;) -
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/5792/img596511.jpg)
I poke two holes in the eggs with something pointy and suck out the contents. Much less messy and it disguises the taste a bit and mixes the contents up so they taste better.
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Post by: p0wer on July 18, 2011, 08:38:15 pm
Wild boar aged some weeks in my fridge. A nice and very tasty white coat of yeast formed on surface since that fridge seems to be sown now.

So you eat it along with the mold?? I throw any moldy food (primarily fruits) that I spot, hmm.
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Post by: raw-al on July 18, 2011, 08:53:32 pm
So you eat it along with the mold?? I throw any moldy food (primarily fruits) that I spot, hmm.
The mould is simply food that is pre-digested and so therefore more nutritious in that it is broken down thereby the nutrients are exposed. I cannot prove that statement but that is the premise behind "High meat". My neighbour was brought up in Tibet and they had no fridges, so their meat gradually got mouldy over time. He told me that it was best tasting when it turned blue.

I eat mouldy raspberries/blueberries/meat all the time as do a number of posters here.
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Post by: Iguana on July 19, 2011, 04:51:28 am
There are a lot of different moulds, some are good, some are bad. On the meat I showed in photo it’s very good, I think it’s a kind of yeast. On the fruits, it’s generally bad, at least for me. On open coconuts, sometimes good mould develop, but sometimes it turns bad also. Antibiotics are a kind of mould, isn’t it?

Smell and taste tell. Don’t hesitate to spit it in case there’s a bad taste you failed to spot by the smell.
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Post by: p0wer on July 19, 2011, 05:27:44 am
I've had some really bad diarrhea recently, and later on I've noticed that the coconut I started eating before the diarrhea was all moldy (it was in the fridge for a few days), but it was hardly noticeable because the mold and the coconut are both white. I couldn't link the problem to anything else but the mold so I'm very careful since then.
I know some are ok (like the moldy cheeses?), but it's a bit risky finding out through trial and error in my opinion.
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Post by: p0wer on July 19, 2011, 05:33:27 am
When I think better you're probably right about going by smell/taste, the bad molds as far as I know are bad because they produce some toxins? and toxins usually are not very tasteful.
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Post by: Hannibal on July 19, 2011, 01:59:50 pm
There are a lot of different moulds, some are good, some are bad. On the meat I showed in photo it’s very good, I think it’s a kind of yeast.
Exactly!
The horse meat develops that kind of coating; an yeast-like one. The meat resembles then an yeast cake.
It develops very quckly when I expose the meat to air in 100%, so it dries a little bit.
Keeping the horse meat in a wet environment highly impedes the formation of that coating.
I'm curious what it is. I've got to check it in some laboratory.
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Post by: Hannibal on July 19, 2011, 02:54:34 pm
the bad molds as far as I know are bad because they produce some toxins? and toxins usually are not very tasteful.
Aflatoxins for example.
They are produced by Aspergillus flavus.
But LDL and the dietery selenium have got protective effect against that toxicity.
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Post by: RawZi on July 19, 2011, 04:10:33 pm
    Raw local chicken leg cut with ceramic knife and raw liver.  Had rotten raw eggs earlier and Wee Bee honey for dinner.
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Post by: KD on July 20, 2011, 03:59:08 am
yesterday was atypical...eating more meats/organs while lacking fats.

mixed throughout the day
2 lbs of ground beef
24 oz of fresh figs
almost an entire lamb liver (1lb+ of 1.4 lb) and
an entire lamb heart
some random cherries and berries..
some raw dairy fat came on my doorstep in the evening.

been absent of most fats this week or two..so ripe opportunity for experimenting diet wise. Not totally without however. Sometimes you can pick up decent marrow at WF and I had some beef fat remaining and I've been experimenting with things like coconut oil and more fruits lately. even ate a jar of 'raw' almond butter and didn't experience too much physical harm. headaches maybe. in general I'd say it makes me feel slightly worse than properly done VLC with variety..but hasn't seemed to effect workouts and such too much so perhaps the LC window is slightly higher than 30/50/70 g carbs or whatever - at least for me at this point.

mostly these days its ground beef or lamb from the store 0-4/5 pieces of fruit. beef fats/dairy fats and a wide assortment of fresh and frozen organ meats. some wildish salads and herbs. sometimes seafood or poultry and occasional small ammounts of honey or honeycomb.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now? Sea Shrimp Ceviche.
Post by: goodsamaritan on August 03, 2011, 08:54:33 pm
Just shared wild sea shrimp ceviche with my family over dinner.

Dipped the shrimp in coconut vinegar and had whole bits of garlic.

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Post by: KD on August 03, 2011, 11:44:25 pm
yesterday I had clams and swordfish after the typical fare. Havn't been doing much seafood generally. I went swimming by the bay and there were all kinds of aquatic life (crabs, starfish, clams: cherrystones, razor clams etc..) but they unfortunately were all in pretty sad shape due to pollution. Its crazy to think that a few hundred years ago I could just get on over there and get something to eat. I mean people still do it..but its dodgy.
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Post by: KD on August 09, 2011, 12:56:40 am
sheep heart; sheep liver. Very sweet.
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Post by: raw on August 09, 2011, 05:55:34 am
one tea spoon of raw lamb thyroid gland, one table spoon of raw lamb brain, some ground veal, 2 veal eyes, good portions of complete grass fed beef bone marrow, veal heart, lamb kidney and some raw lamb stomach...yummy! all of these blended together for my son and he enjoys them in the morning.

for me 2 lbs of fatty ground veal

my husband eats 3 lbs of ground veal,heart and kidney and of course, 3 fertile chicken egg yolks in the morning.

For diner, my son will eat just ground veal with a whole chicken egg

my husband will be eating watermelon and avocados

I'll be eating fruits too for diner

PS. my son takes some raw fermented cod liver oil in the morning. he loves it. ;)

 
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Post by: klowcarb on August 09, 2011, 09:58:42 am
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/photo.php?fbid=2108572767829&set=a.1473747137585.61046.1650871915&type=1&theater
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Post by: goodsamaritan on August 26, 2011, 10:03:10 am
Raw crabs and raw oysters last night.
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Post by: TylerDurden on August 26, 2011, 05:02:43 pm
I highly recommend raw crabs and raw oysters. They are quite cheap and very high in nutrients.
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Post by: goodsamaritan on August 27, 2011, 05:27:13 am
I highly recommend raw crabs and raw oysters. They are quite cheap and very high in nutrients.

In Manila, oysters are cheap.
But crabs are expensive!
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Post by: sabertooth on August 27, 2011, 07:36:55 am
Lamb legs
lamb fat
Lamb brain
coconut butter
tomato

I can now buy whole lamb heads for 7 dollars a piece.

I have been living on lamb for the last three weeks, my urine now smells extremely lamby

I feel good and the lamb brain and blood I've been eating seem to be very nourishing.
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Post by: Löwenherz on August 30, 2011, 05:39:15 pm
Yesterday:

One cucumber tomato salad

+

Lots of raw fatty lamb


Löwenherz
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Post by: Hannibal on August 31, 2011, 12:05:57 am
Now - some part of raw cauliflower, several small carrots and couple of little 100% organic tomatoes (from my friend).
Couple of hours ago - goat liver and fat (grass-fed, wild-fruits-fed)
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Post by: miles on August 31, 2011, 10:47:24 pm
Just ate the NICEST cucumber I've ever tasted. It was ~20cm long, bent, fat, a bit squidgy and with a big bulge containing real seeds! The inside was a yellowish white colour and it was oh-so-delicious.

Ate rosehips from my garden, DELICIOUS! Probably(edit: definitely) the tastiest fruit I've ever had, but I couldn't get much mass, and not many were ripe anyway. IGUANA you've said about eating rosehips before, how do you do it? On Wikipedia it says one must avoid the hairs inside because they are itchy..?

Since a few weeks I've stopped buying fruit/veg from the supermarkets, because it's shit... I'm getting it from an organic store and a small greencrocers, everything there is so much nicer..

By the way... BEEF INNER SKIRT! Has anyone heard of this? This is the main meat I've been eating for months, I wasn't sure if I wanted to tell people in case it became mainstream(and more expensive) or something but I will now... I get it for £1.99 per kilo from my butcher, it's muscle, and it's really tender and nice, but it's attached to internal organs(I get bits of liver and lung attached to it) so people don't want it or know about it. I was told the farmers or someone used to keep it for themselves.
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Post by: goodsamaritan on September 08, 2011, 01:13:50 pm
Its Durian season!
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Post by: cherimoya_kid on September 08, 2011, 09:52:06 pm
Its Durian season!

GS, what are the traditional Philipino thoughts on durian's health properties?
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Post by: Iguana on September 08, 2011, 11:04:18 pm
IGUANA you've said about eating rosehips before, how do you do it? On Wikipedia it says one must avoid the hairs inside because they are itchy..?

I eat it with my mouth... Seriously, there are different varieties and I found a rather rare kind palatable, most are not.
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Post by: goodsamaritan on September 11, 2011, 07:02:47 am
It is rambutan season!

(http://www.myhealthblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/rambutan-picking-e1315694976507.jpg)

story here:
http://www.myhealthblog.org/2011/09/11/rambutan-season-los-banos-mount-makiling-the-capital-of-rambutan-varieties/
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Post by: cherimoya_kid on September 11, 2011, 12:54:18 pm
I love rambutan...they are expensive here in the USA, though. 
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Post by: sabertooth on September 11, 2011, 01:53:22 pm
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/301207_148763965213647_100002401348487_250301_995179228_n.jpg;


http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/298529_148761758547201_100002401348487_250294_397321716_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/301207_148763971880313_100002401348487_250303_264337461_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/307532_148764795213564_100002401348487_250312_1249913084_n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/184078_135440663212644_100002401348487_206181_2417150_n.jpg
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Post by: cherimoya_kid on September 12, 2011, 10:54:50 am
I like that first photo of you, sabertooth.
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Post by: raw on September 15, 2011, 02:15:53 am
GS, your photos are great. One thing is very obvious to me that fresh frush taste amazing after consuming raw animal products.

I've just eaten 2 lbs of 100% grassfed beef and home grown seeded grapes. So delicious!
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Post by: ezekiel on September 15, 2011, 08:19:43 am
@sabertooth and gs
Wow nice photos!
Sabertooth haha, nice where did you get those heads?
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Post by: ezekiel on September 15, 2011, 08:29:02 am
and home grown seeded grapes. So delicious!
Concord grapes? I just had some today. I picked some wild grapes, started talking to an old man who had concord grape vines, he gave me some for free. Where he lives now used to be his family farm. Now it's a neighborhood. He talked about working as a young man. And eating two cups of fresh raw milk and cream before starting chores. He knows about the food industry and how things have gone down hill. He remembers when the butter was yellow here, then they started adding yellow food coloring when feeding the cows mainly grains, now people don't care and are used to white butter. Also we talked about the egg yolks of chickens fed mainly grains, pale yellow color. And the nice bright orange color of free range eggs.
Good chat.

had some concord grapes, wild grapes, and some local grass fed beef (very tasty beef form the market!). Much better than the grass fed beef in the stores. Two different companies though. Both local however.
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Post by: raw on September 15, 2011, 10:48:54 am
@Sully, I think my grapes are not concord grapes type. They contain very strong flavor and skin are thicker than regular grapes in the market. I don't know the proper spelling, but called "mascandas" something. I'm also growing so many water melons and cantaloups..., if you come to visit, you can also share them. Remember, I do have enourmous supply of wild grapes too. You can even hunt the deer in the winter time straight from my yard. My home is top of huge hill (in the picture) ;)
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Post by: cherimoya_kid on September 15, 2011, 11:34:01 am
@Sully, I think my grapes are not concord grapes type. They contain very strong flavor and skin are thicker than regular grapes in the market. I don't know the proper spelling, but called "mascandas" something.

They're known as "muscadines" or "scuppernongs".  They are wild grapes, native to North America, and closely related to Concord grapes.
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Post by: sabertooth on September 15, 2011, 12:45:28 pm
I have become a lamb slayer, and have eaten all but one of my friends unwanted males.
The heads are accumulating, I also buy extra heads from the butcher shop.
Tongue and brains galore.

I just found a fresh deer carcass, a young male still with spots. I have been eating good.
My butcher also gave me ten pounds of lamb fat, so I should be set for the next week.

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Post by: ezekiel on September 16, 2011, 09:51:38 am
I have become a lamb slayer, and have eaten all but one of my friends unwanted males.
The heads are accumulating, I also buy extra heads from the butcher shop.
Tongue and brains galore.

I just found a fresh deer carcass, a young male still with spots. I have been eating good.
My butcher also gave me ten pounds of lamb fat, so I should be set for the next week.


You are eating good indeed!

@rawAhh Nice, they sound tasty. And yes, I would love to visit sometime in the future! It will eventually happen I think. We can feast on some grapes and venison in the fall!  Beautiful home!
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Post by: KD on September 18, 2011, 10:47:57 pm
Yesterday: Black Sea Bass and Swordfish high meat (~6+ week)

also have this sheep liver going about the same time.
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Post by: miles on September 20, 2011, 04:23:05 am
Fresh(/'green') garlic; fresh mint; fresh taragon; unpasteurised(but frozen) goats milk; raw neck of venison.

Below: Breast of Venison(hanging); Neck of Venison(on grill)

He had a big neck!
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Post by: sabertooth on September 20, 2011, 07:07:28 am
(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk1/sarahab88/21f5d018.jpg)

I have some deer neck meat, liver, lung, and brain, along with some lamb fat.

(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk1/sarahab88/39ca4fd6.jpg)

(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk1/sarahab88/cf8e3250.jpg)

My kids love to help me out when I am butchering.
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Post by: zeno on October 04, 2011, 10:15:01 am
Sabertooth have you taken to completely skipping the butcher by buying live animals and butchering them yourself? Do you think this is more cost-effective? I'm sure of the benefits otherwise, but I'm curious of the differences in cost...
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Post by: sabertooth on October 04, 2011, 12:36:30 pm
(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk1/sarahab88/Photo2759.jpg)

This is my latest kill, a large male lamb, its been aging on a meat hook for the last three days. I love the cool weather we have been having its perfect for aging meat out in my shed.

I haven't completely quit eating store bought meat, but I am moving towards that goal. I will still get fat trimmings and other spare parts from my butcher. Sometimes I will have to get some store bought beef if my food supply runs out before I can obtain another whole animal. Luckily I have just found another farm who will sell me pasture raised sheep and goats, so hopefully I wont have to buy too much questionable quality meat from the local stores.

The cost of grassfed meat is outrageously high if you buy it by the pound at the local markets where I live. Grass fed ground beef is now 7 dollars a pound at the whole foods. So its absolutely essential for me to obtain the most economical source of quality foods.

I have been buying lamb at 1.25 per pound , on hoof. A real deal considering that most stockyards are selling it for 1.80.

Its hard to get an exact dollar amount of how much I save by butchering myself, because you have to factor in the added bonus factor of being able to obtain all the organs, bone marrow, glands, lymphnodes, intestinal fats, blood,etc.; that are nearly impossible to obtain at the local grocery store.

The last lamb cost me 140 dollars and I get about 60 pounds of eatable material.
So I estimate about somewhere between two and three dollars a pound of edible matterial
It depends on the leanness of the animal.

Compare that to 7 dollars a pound for just the muscle meat, and you can see a great savings in cost.
Especially considering that I will eat two to three pounds a day. I actually ration myself when my supply gets low and I don't have enough money to buy more.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: miles on October 04, 2011, 08:29:49 pm
How well does the meat last in your shed? Do you get anything growing on the outside of the meat? What parts are you hanging and how? What's the environment like inside your shed?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: sabertooth on October 05, 2011, 05:42:15 am
It has been cool with low humidity, in the 40s and 50s.

I have been hanging the whole limbs and the torso.

But during the day its been getting too warm so I will take the pieces and put them on a rack in my fridge.

It seems to be aging well, if you let it dry a little in the open air then it doesn't seem to get infected with slimmy molds.

I am attempting to perfect my methods of keeping the meat dry enough and well aired so it doesn't spoil, and moist enough to develop that beneficial bacteria rich flavor.

I will usually consume the whole animal by the third week so I am not sure about aging it beyond that.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: zeno on October 05, 2011, 09:19:49 am
I will usually consume the whole animal by the third week so I am not sure about aging it beyond that.

Ha-ha--like a true animal!  ;D
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on October 05, 2011, 03:39:48 pm
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This is my latest kill, a large male lamb, its been aging on a meat hook for the last three days. I love the cool weather we have been having its perfect for aging meat out in my shed.
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Hi Sabertooth,

what minimum meat aging time for lamb/mutton do you recommend?

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: zeno on October 05, 2011, 11:10:35 pm
Sabertooth, may I ask how you slaughter the animals? I know that there is some concern when killing an animal to ensure a stress-free death so as not to spark the release of certain chemicals into the body. This may be hearsay but I know I've heard something along these lines and I was wondering how you slaughter.

When slaughtering a lamb, I was taught to slit its throat and bleed it out.

This is an unrelated question, but when and how often do you find yourself eating? Do you eat one large meal in the middle of the day?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: sabertooth on October 06, 2011, 10:32:37 am
Hi Sabertooth,

what minimum meat aging time for lamb/mutton do you recommend?

Löwenherz


The length it takes a chunk of meat to age to perfection varies greatly. It depends on a number of factors. Humidity, temperature, air flow all have to be controlled for optimal aging.

It taste best after at least 10 days of hanging in dry fall weather. After about two weeks it seems that I get bacteria overload from eatting exclusively slightly rotted meat and will lose my craving for it..

I have experimented with all types of different conditions and have even eaten meats completely infested within maggots.( kind of biter)

I am in the middle of forming a theory which explains my experiences with aged meats.
Its called bacterial cycling.

After eating on a kill that's been aging a while the body will build up more than enough bacterial co-factors it needs and will lose its apatite for bacteria. Then when a new kill is landed the body will metabolize out the old bacteria by digesting the fresh meat and the cycle will start over again.

This is the crude layout of a phenomena I seem to have been experiencing since I began to use the whole animal, and quit using frozen meats. My body will absolutely thrive on meat that is beginning to age and then after eatting on the same rotting carcause for a while I will suddenly lose my apatite. I still finish off whats left ,which usually isn't much.

Then with a body saterated with bacterial stuff I will begin a new cycle with a fresh kill. The old bacterial from the last kill will help with the digestion and assimilation of the new kill. While the new kill cycles of the old bacteria. Then as the new kill begins to age it replenishes the body with a new generation of bacteria.

I swear my digestion has never been better

Sabertooth, may I ask how you slaughter the animals? I know that there is some concern when killing an animal to ensure a stress-free death so as not to spark the release of certain chemicals into the body. This may be hearsay but I know I've heard something along these lines and I was wondering how you slaughter.

When slaughtering a lamb, I was taught to slit its throat and bleed it out.

This is an unrelated question, but when and how often do you find yourself eating? Do you eat one large meal in the middle of the day?

I cut their throats and let them bleed out.

I eat three to four times a day; usually a medium sized breakfast, a small lunch, a pre dinner snack{ egg yolk with a bite of tomato}Then a large dinner.

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on October 06, 2011, 03:48:35 pm
...
I am in the middle of forming a theory which explains my experiences with aged meats.
Its called bacterial cycling.
...

Sabertooth, thanks for your interesting thoughts!

Your theory makes perfectly sense if we imagine a "wild" tribal life in the open grasslands somewhere on this planet. And your report would and should be a nice story for all vegans suffering from digestive problems due to fungal infestations.

Have you experienced rancid fats? Some beef cattle farmers told me that fat near the bones can get very stinky quickly. I noticed that lamb fat is more stable than beef fat, btw.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: sabertooth on October 06, 2011, 04:42:33 pm
You may be correct about lamb fat being more stable. It seems if you leave the whole limb intact the fat seems to stay relatively fresh, and wont go sour as easily as beef fat. Aged lamb fat taste good to me. I think the key is to let the surface dry a little, under the right conditions it won't go rancid even when aging it for a couple of weeks.

Lamb back fat seems to form a protective layer over the flesh and seems to seal it off from unwanted growths. Allowing the inside to age without rotting.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: RogueFarmer on October 06, 2011, 11:09:15 pm
Man that sounds so good.

I have a rose veal that I can't keep alive for various reasons, I am wondering if it's cold enough yet to pull this off. He is about 300 pounds or so.

I would have to transport the carcase 500 miles lol, I wonder if this is worth trying or if I should just freeze it. Any suggestions?

I am moving to southern Ohio.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: sabertooth on October 15, 2011, 09:26:05 pm
(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk1/sarahab88/Photo2760.jpg)
goat blood

(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk1/sarahab88/Photo2763.jpg)
Lamb marrow from an aged leg
 
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(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk1/sarahab88/Photo2764.jpg)

My latest kill, a 7 month old male goat.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on October 25, 2011, 05:00:47 pm
    Grass finished tendinous meat minced, then mashed with fatty marrow, raw chicken liver and pastured never been chilled egg and a little shallot.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on October 26, 2011, 11:19:20 am
Hi I'm new I've herd of marrow bones, but what is fatty marrow, where do you get it, and how do you get into it? Should I season it? Also I was giving my beef heart fat to my dog and I saw a pretty plate of beef heart, with the fat. Should I just eat fat, bite it, swallow it down, and I'll just know when I've had enough. What about other stuff, fibrous things, that I was supposed to throw out. Is that good for me?
Almost all of the grass feed local meet I can get has been frozen. I can get conventional meet totally fresh, which is better? Or should I mix it up. I want to start hunting, but fishing I have already done. Does anybody eat fresh water fish raw? Please advise me.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on October 26, 2011, 11:39:01 am
    Bovine marrow seems to be all fat, barely blood. I would recommend from my digestion to take a ceramic butcher knife, cut the fiber into small pieces, so they are swallowable. chew the fat! Or grate it. No fresh water. On rare occasion very lean non organic. Rest of time stick with grassfed. If you get skin problem, then avoid frozen. Who knows? Frozen may bring about other things you don't like, I haven't the faintest idea, I don't eat it.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 26, 2011, 02:18:43 pm
Does anybody eat fresh water fish raw? Please advise me.

I don't.  I haven't found a worthy clean source.  Pristine fresh water shrimp in a far off province, 1 time.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on October 27, 2011, 12:09:02 am
I don't.  I haven't found a worthy clean source.  Pristine fresh water shrimp in a far off province, 1 time.
Yes, we have the same problem in Europe. Even in clean mountain streams, they release young farmed trouts to be fished later.    >D
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on October 27, 2011, 03:26:41 am
    I tried some raw corn with raw milk.  Not a good mix.  Didn't make me sick (or detox), but it tasted like cow flavored corn.  Count me out lol. 
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Isthmus on October 27, 2011, 11:02:45 pm
Some Rose Veal kidney and braising steak. Along with a little bit of raw honey and butter afterwards.

(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/8232/vealkidneyandbraising.jpg)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 27, 2011, 11:20:36 pm
Hydrating evening snack: Juicy organic papaya
Also tasted some Guyabano / Graviola that my son likes so much these days.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on October 27, 2011, 11:49:25 pm
I'm having my usual:-  raw wild moufflon(thanks Iguana for recommending it) and raw wild boar meats. Also some raw eggs and some raw grapes, the eggs are not organic or free-range by label but are as good in quality, the grapes are nonorganic.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on October 28, 2011, 02:56:48 am
I'm having my usual weekday lunch of raw sea bass, raw scallops, and a little raw dulse. 
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on October 28, 2011, 07:43:12 am
    Grass fed beef shank marrow.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: zeno on October 28, 2011, 10:06:58 am
I'm having my usual:-  raw wild moufflon(thanks Iguana for recommending it) and raw wild boar meats. Also some raw eggs and some raw grapes, the eggs are not organic or free-range by label but are as good in quality, the grapes are nonorganic.

Tyler, how is it that you source all this wild game? Do you just buy it from hunters or wild game processors?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on October 28, 2011, 10:52:14 am
One more marrow question. If I had some venison bones would I just wack them with a hammer then get out what I could. I get hungry thinking about marrow, but just not understanding, maybe if I'm holding the bone it will make sense.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on October 28, 2011, 11:09:57 am
One more marrow question. If I had some venison bones would I just wack them with a hammer then get out what I could. I get hungry thinking about marrow, but just not understanding, maybe if I'm holding the bone it will make sense.

It's pretty hard to break cattle bones open.  Deer might be easier.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: eveheart on October 28, 2011, 12:56:49 pm
One more marrow question. If I had some venison bones would I just wack them with a hammer then get out what I could. I get hungry thinking about marrow, but just not understanding, maybe if I'm holding the bone it will make sense.

Hammer shatters the bone, messing up the marrow. Hacksaw works well - cut off the knuckle (end), then cut the shank of the bone into halves or thirds. A chopstick works well to push the marrow out of slender bones - push from the narrowest center part, towards the thicker end, and the marrow slides out. For beef bones, I use a knife at an angle to take out chunky slivers of marrow. Also, it's the femur (thigh) bone that has the nice core of soft marrow.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on October 28, 2011, 01:29:26 pm
Tyler, how is it that you source all this wild game? Do you just buy it from hunters or wild game processors?
   Usually, I get my raw wild game from local farmers' markets as they are so much cheaper there - farmers are the most frequent hunters, for obvious reasons, so they are the best source. I can get wild venison, wild hare and wild mallard duck from them as well as a variety of raw wildcaught seafood. However, these days, I don't usually bother as I have access to a local wildgame wholesale company which  usually sells to restaurants but which also sells to the public. It's expensive, but, there,  I can get hold of raw moufflon and raw wild boar which I prefer.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on October 30, 2011, 06:02:44 pm
I'm having my usual:-  raw wild moufflon(thanks Iguana for recommending it) and raw wild boar meats. Also some raw eggs and some raw grapes, the eggs are not organic or free-range by label but are as good in quality, the grapes are nonorganic.

I have not eaten wild moufflon so far. (hard to get in Germany)

Is it very lean?

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on October 30, 2011, 06:53:06 pm
I have not eaten wild moufflon so far. (hard to get in Germany)

Is it very lean?

Löwenherz

I don't think so. At least the cuts I get probably have some of the fat already cut off, if there was any. But then again, raw wild game is notoriously lean.

I'm sure there are wild game wholesalers/butchers in Germany who can provide raw wild moufflon. I know that they are available in Austria.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on October 30, 2011, 09:30:10 pm
I don't think so. At least the cuts I get probably have some of the fat already cut off, if there was any. But then again, raw wild game is notoriously lean.

I'm sure there are wild game wholesalers/butchers in Germany who can provide raw wild moufflon. I know that they are available in Austria.

Yes, in southern Germany near the Alps you can get wild moufflon easily. In the rest of the country there are only a few scattered very small moufflon populations. Unfortunately the most german "wild meat" wholesalers are very untrustworthy because they usually sell meat from animal pens ("Gatterhaltung"). Therefore I prefer local hunters.

Regarding the fat content: With the exception of some wild boars all game meat available today in Germany is ULTRA lean. And if I understood you correctly wild moufflon is also very lean.

The consequence is that a paleo low carb diet based on (most healthy) wild game meats would not be possible. For me this point is still a critical issue in the whole raw tuber-free paleo concept.

You mentioned several times that a raw zero carb diet brought you near death. I made similar experiences. You need fruits on a constant basis. There is no fruit at our latitude. Furthermore there is nearly no fat in wild meats nowadays. Result: Our raw paleo model is completely dependant on domesticated animals. That is not 'dramatic' but also not perfect in an attempt to find the theoretical perfect paleo world (which is irrelevant, no question). Where did our ancestors in Europe get all the fat from? Have they been totally dependent on Auerochs and Wisent?  Or did they cook some tubers? Tsss...

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on October 30, 2011, 11:15:08 pm
I disagree that fat is all that important - and wild animals have always been very lean due to doing exercise, it's only domesticated animals that can build up large amounts of fat. Plus, HGs in palaeo times would have eaten the raw organs as well, some of which are very fatty indeed. The meats I get currently are mostly raw muscle-meats.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hanna on October 31, 2011, 10:53:49 pm
Where did our ancestors in Europe get all the fat from? Have they been totally dependent on Auerochs and Wisent?  Or did they cook some tubers? Tsss...

Hi Löwenherz,

They certainly ate plant foods, including cooked and processed plant foods (seeds (including wild grains!), nuts (plant fat!), roots, berries etc.). This even applies to the Neanderthals:

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2010/12/27/fossilized-food-stuck-in-neandertal-teeth-indicates-plant-rich-diet/ (http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2010/12/27/fossilized-food-stuck-in-neandertal-teeth-indicates-plant-rich-diet/)

We had a similar discussion in Lex´s journal:

http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/journals/lex's-journal/msg49333/#msg49333 (http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/journals/lex's-journal/msg49333/#msg49333)
http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/journals/lex's-journal/msg49614/#msg49614 (http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/journals/lex's-journal/msg49614/#msg49614)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 01, 2011, 10:26:48 pm
I disagree that fat is all that important - and wild animals have always been very lean due to doing exercise, it's only domesticated animals that can build up large amounts of fat. Plus, HGs in palaeo times would have eaten the raw organs as well, some of which are very fatty indeed. The meats I get currently are mostly raw muscle-meats.

Nearly all raw paleo dieters here place most emphasis on fats. But if fat is not all that important for you, then you have to eat much more carbs. Nobody is able to eat only lean muscle meats from wild animals. Or are you an exception?

I think I will NEVER understand your diet.

Lex gives all readers exakt numbers and quantities. But your examples are always wishy-washy. Sorry, but I still try to get a clear picture. If I eat high amounts of wild lean game meats without enough fat I always get in trouble.

Let's say you eat 1 kg of wild venison muscle meat in a day. That's more than 200 grams of protein but only 1000 calories. How many kilos of fruit do you eat in such a day?? How much ultra-lean wild muscle meat can you eat in one day?

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 01, 2011, 10:34:25 pm
They certainly ate plant foods, including cooked and processed plant foods (seeds (including wild grains!), nuts (plant fat!), roots, berries etc.). This even applies to the Neanderthals:
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2010/12/27/fossilized-food-stuck-in-neandertal-teeth-indicates-plant-rich-diet/ (http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2010/12/27/fossilized-food-stuck-in-neandertal-teeth-indicates-plant-rich-diet/)

Hanna, thanks for the interesting article:

"
From the individual from the Iraq site (Shanidar Cave), for example, the team found that 42 percent of the recovered starch was from cooked materials, though Henry and her colleagues "expect that the actual proportion of cooked foods within the diet of this individual was probably much higher."
"

The question is again if cooked plant food beside healthy raw meat could be better than just fruits. What is your opinion?

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on November 02, 2011, 03:32:17 am
I disagree that fat is all that important - and wild animals have always been very lean due to doing exercise,

Yeah, but HG peoples tend to really prize the marrow and fat.  Granted, their diets were probably fat-starved if they couldn't get fatty fish, due to the lack of fat on wild animals, and in plant foods.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on November 02, 2011, 04:38:43 am
Tonight I had :
- lamb liver
- lamb leg
- a whole fennel
- a whole broccoli stem
- peanuts (raw, of course)
- 3 apples
 :)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Isthmus on November 03, 2011, 12:40:14 am
Tonight I had :
- lamb liver
- lamb leg
- a whole fennel
- a whole broccoli stem
- peanuts (raw, of course)
- 3 apples
 :)


Sounds like a great meal Iguana. I am interested that you eat peanuts. Personally I had some negative experiences with peanuts in the past and gave them up. I wonder if you have to be careful not to overindulge in them?

Best,
Isthmus

Edit: Just about to sit down to some rose veal topside (which is butt I think [: ), a lamb heart and some carrots.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on November 03, 2011, 05:04:46 am
Sounds like a great meal Iguana. I am interested that you eat peanuts. Personally I had some negative experiences with peanuts in the past and gave them up. I wonder if you have to be careful not to overindulge in them?
Thanks, yes it was a great meal ! ;)

It’s difficult to find raw peanuts, they may have been heated without you knowing it. It’s also absolutely crucial to spit the bad ones, there are always a few very bad and noxious ones. If these conditions are met and if you don’t mix’em with other foods, you should be able to eat as many as you like : you will certainly know when your body has had enough.

But I had a very strong belly pain decades ago with raw peanuts (I don’t know why, perhaps I swallowed to quickly and ingested one or more bad ones?) and, like you, I gave up for some years. But then I tried again latter on and ever since I never had any negative effects, eating often quite a lot of raw peanuts.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hanna on November 03, 2011, 06:14:26 pm
The question is again if cooked plant food beside healthy raw meat could be better than just fruits. What is your opinion?

Certainly not for me, personally, since I seem to have an allergy or something against any cooked food.
Are cooked tubers tasty if you don´t add any salt?

Tyler eats some cooked foods, including high carb foods.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hanna on November 03, 2011, 06:32:54 pm
Where did our ancestors in Europe get all the fat from? Have they been totally dependent on Auerochs and Wisent?
Speaking of Auerochs and Wisent: Apparently they do not have that much fat. Here is a comparison:

Beef: 14g fat / 100g
Auerochs: 5g fat / 100g
Wisent: 3g fat / 100g

http://rlp.nabu.de/projekte/lfa-weidelandschaft/nabuagrarumwelt/ (http://rlp.nabu.de/projekte/lfa-weidelandschaft/nabuagrarumwelt/)
http://www.moesta.info/de/11000-bison.htm (http://www.moesta.info/de/11000-bison.htm)

Quote
Unlike commercially raised beef which can be rapidly cooled because its meat is well protected from extreme cold by a heavy layer of insulating fat, bison, especially grass-fed bison, has a much leaner fat cover.

http://www.bisonbasics.com/pastured/fully_grass_fed_and_finished.html (http://www.bisonbasics.com/pastured/fully_grass_fed_and_finished.html)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 03, 2011, 08:01:34 pm
Maybe the fattest, tastiest animals went extinct first.  ;D

Elephants, dugongs and hippos come to mind... HORSES are VERY VERY FAT.

Our ancestors drew lots of horses.... maybe one of their favorite foods.

--------

I'm taking care of my son so I tasted everything he could eat before he eats:

- raw fish malasugi (he ate a lot of this)
- raw beef barbecue (with honey, garlic and calamansi)
- live oysters (just mine)
- live clams (he ate a lot more than me)

And the 2 younger children helped in cracking open the live clams.  I'm enjoying while it is still a novelty for them to smash open live clams.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 03, 2011, 10:28:00 pm
Hanna has a point. Wild animals even in palaeo times were pretty lean. They had to be. If they were hugely fat, they would not have survived long against predators, plus they were forced to exercise. This makes it clear that fat isn't all that important a nutrient.

It is true that some organ-meats are very fatty, such as the brain, marrow and tongue, but those form only a small part of the overall body.

As for Loewenherz's comment re my "wishy-washy" accounts, what do you expect? I follow a far more varied diet than Lex, which is also subject to food-availability(that is, on rare occasions, I might, one  week, not be able to buy any raw wild game or raw grassfed meats, so I might just eat raw fruits instead for those 7 days; another time I might eat only 100 percent raw meats for 5 days because I can't be bothered to go out and buy raw fruits etc.

Whatever the case, I think that raw fat is only an essential on a raw, zero-carb diet, and, even there, I think that the overall percentage of fat required is lower than the percentages quoted in Zero-Carb circles.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 03, 2011, 10:41:29 pm
GS, horses are generally classified as providing "lean meats", being low in fat.

Hippos are also very lean:-

"Hippopotamuses have a great percentage of lean flesh and little fat. Food is used to renew the muscular tissue, it is not stored as fat reserves." taken from:-

http://www.dynamisch.nu/feno/english/e5pigs.html (http://www.dynamisch.nu/feno/english/e5pigs.html)

Judging from online pdfs, dugongs are also considered to have lean meats.

Elephants are claimed to have mainly lean meat here:-

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080309170009AARnUCC (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080309170009AARnUCC)

People have quoted seals and  other arctic animals as being fatty due to the blubber content, but, apparently, their actual meats are very, very  lean  indeed underneath the blubber.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: HIT_it_RAW on November 03, 2011, 11:27:21 pm
Elephants are claimed to have mainly lean meat here:-
Elephants exceed the body bulk vs body surface area rule and thus have serious cooling problems. Thats why they have huge ears with lots of veins in them. They act as radiators to vent off excess heat. Given this it would be very surprising if they had a lot of heat insulating fat ;)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Inger on November 03, 2011, 11:53:20 pm
Elk (Moose) that is my staplemeat here in Scandinavia, have very little fat too.
Ground elkmeat has only 3 % fat. Really no fat there.

I tried to live only from local wild meat and berries etc. in the summer. Just for one week, I just got no fat at all. ??? I got such cravings for coconut(fat) I had to stop my experiment.
So there cannot have been much fat around. Of course they ate marrow and brains but there was not lot of these. I guess everybody shared them, and they were looked at as the best parts, as fat was so rare. That is why. I do not believe we need huge amounts of fat either. At least not when eating fruit and veggies as Tyler said.
For therapeutic reasons it might be great for a while though.. to fat-load. ;)

Inger
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 04, 2011, 12:13:22 am
The actual percentage of physical fat deposits on an animal is not important. If you use up every section of the leanest of animal  you can easily be eating many meals of more than 60% fat by calorie. This would be particularly true if your diet did not involve catching a single animal and bringing it back home to dine exclusively on, but mirrored more the actual processes generally available in nature. In a situation like the plains with some larger predators not being able to make use of things such as marrow, humans are very capable - and thought to thrive - scavenging and picking out bone marrow, brain etc... This is not even accounting for other fats such as plants or fats of other animals in other climates. Some people emphasize fat as their main macronutrient without eating much of it (or any with modern folks) from animals such as those found in coconuts and mongono, avocado etc..

The discussion over fat as a nutrient and as a energy source are totally different. Many see fats as the most important nutrient (or just other macronutrients as more problematic) but the issue for most people is energy. People dwell on their own macronutrient percentage of fat because generally when one is limiting carbs in a current artificial climate its going to indicate how much of the diets energy is coming from fats and how much the body is working to get it from protein. Its simple math that if one is eating less than 20%, 10% or 5 % of a diet from carbs and less than 30% of their diet is fat than you are going to be dealing with maybe 400 g! of protein or more DAILY for the average inactive person. with 50% fat its still going to be around 300g protein! Keep in mind in nature one would need to be active, possibly for long periods of time which would require being able to burn fat, OR having a constant and regular supply year round of carbohydrates.

Basically if you took an entire animal even if its BF percentage was extremely low you could still get quite a large quantity in grams of fat from it. Possibly enough to walk away with food for weeks or more. Eating muscle meats as a primary fuel in areas absent of much plants carbs I'm not sure would be a suitable option.

If one isn't eating a large part of their energy as fat or plant based carbs you are inevitably talking about inadequate energy and potentially problematic intake of proteins.

For a modern person its pretty self-explanatory.
a diet of 1 banana, 5 lbs of separated-lean deer meat and 1 deer brain yields: 3188 calories 73/03/25 protein/carbs/fat for the moderately active adult male. This works out to be 500+ g of protein. Without eating enough fat regularly and therefore adjusting to actually burn it for energy, eating extra fat would likely just lead one to feel more sluggish while still burning protein for fuel. This seems to be the justification for keeping a high general % of fat intake unless one is taking in thousands of cals in energy from carbs to offset getting it from protein.

--eating lamb liver luncho.

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 04, 2011, 04:57:15 am
Speaking of Auerochs and Wisent: Apparently they do not have that much fat. Here is a comparison:

Beef: 14g fat / 100g
Auerochs: 5g fat / 100g
Wisent: 3g fat / 100g

Hi Paleo friends,

wild animals are generally lean. I think that we all agree on this point.

Nevertheless the above average numbers are meaningless. Even a wild Wisent has a fatty tongue, bone marrow, back fat and kidney fat. But to follow a high fat "paleo" diet you would have to kill endless numbers of such animals and waste tons and tons of lean meat. Is this a realistic scenario? Does it makes sense?  People like Lex certainly argue that you would indeed find 'tons' of animal fat in wild nature. Hippos etc...

So, if we assume that animal fats have been rare for our paleo ancestors, carbs must have  played an important role!

AND there was nearly NO fruit, at least in ALL colder regions like todays Europe.

Furthermore don't forget that

a) Protein is a very bad energy source for us and
b) we definitely have a protein ceiling (too much lean meats without carbs OR fat becomes very toxic)

Conclusion: The 'original' paleo diet in colder regions must have been high in cooked plant foods if fruits AND animal fats had been rare.

A diet that consists of a lot of fruit + lean animal meats could never have been the diet of our ancestors in USA and Europe.

I appreciate your thoughts..

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 04, 2011, 04:59:11 am
Maybe the fattest, tastiest animals went extinct first.  ;D

Yes, in Europe this has definitely been the case: Wisent and Aurochs

Elephants, dugongs and hippos come to mind... HORSES are VERY VERY FAT.
Our ancestors drew lots of horses.... maybe one of their favorite foods.

Horses are 'very very fat'?? Really?

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 04, 2011, 05:11:11 am
A for Loewenherz's comment re my "wishy-washy" accounts, what do you expect? I follow a far more varied diet than Lex, which is also subject to food-availability(that is, on rare occasions, I might, one  week, not be able to buy any raw wild game or raw grassfed meats, so I might just eat raw fruits instead for those 7 days; another time I might eat only 100 percent raw meats for 5 days because I can't be bothered to go out and buy raw fruits etc.

Whatever the case, I think that raw fat is only an essential on a raw, zero-carb diet, and, even there, I think that the overall percentage of fat required is lower than the percentages quoted in Zero-Carb circles.

You may follow a very varied diet (regarding animal food this can only be good, IMO) but nevertheless the thing is very easy. We all here eat animal protein. Beside this we can eat carbs, carbs + fat or only fats. Regardless how many different animals you eat, there are only these three possible dietary scenarions:

1. animal protein + carbs
2. animal protein + fats
3. animal protein + carbs + fats

In this schemata food variety doesn't play a role.

If fats are not so important, your diet logically becomes (MUST become) very high in carbs. And because you don't eat cooked food on a regular basis your diet must definitely be extremely high in fruit.

Conclusion: Your diet is very different from the diet of our European ancestors.

Correct?

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 04, 2011, 05:17:49 am
A for Loewenherz's comment re my "wishy-washy" accounts, what do you expect? I follow a far more varied diet than Lex, which is also subject to food-availability(that is, on rare occasions, I might, one  week, not be able to buy any raw wild game or raw grassfed meats, so I might just eat raw fruits instead for those 7 days; another time I might eat only 100 percent raw meats for 5 days because I can't be bothered to go out and buy raw fruits etc.

Thanks for your explanation. One more thought about this:

If you can switch from zero carb high animal fat to ALL fruit for some days and vice versa you must be extremely healthy. Sounds good!

My body (still?) can't handle such extreme switches... But are they advisable??

Löwenherz

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 04, 2011, 05:23:43 am
GS, horses are generally classified as providing "lean meats", being low in fat.
Hippos are also very lean:-
..
Judging from online pdfs, dugongs are also considered to have lean meats.
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Elephants are claimed to have mainly lean meat here:-

If it was true that all wild animals offer only tiny amounts of fat, THAT would mean

that the whole    RAW PALEO IDEA IS NONSENSE.

Reasoning: If fats are low, carbs are necessary. But there were no fruits!

LEX, are you reading this? I would like to read your comment. ;-)

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 04, 2011, 05:31:40 am
I tried to live only from local wild meat and berries etc. in the summer. Just for one week, I just got no fat at all. ???

AHA!

I got such cravings for coconut(fat) I had to stop my experiment.

Coconut fat is fantastic, isn't it? Recently I even stopped my 100% local food diet after I noticed (again and again) that raw fresh coconut fat (in form of milk or cream) is much better for my body than ANY animal fat.

So there cannot have been much fat around. Of course they ate marrow and brains but there was not lot of these. I guess everybody shared them, and they were looked at as the best parts, as fat was so rare. That is why. I do not believe we need huge amounts of fat either. At least not when eating fruit and veggies as Tyler said.

People in Scandinavia never had access to fruits for, let me say 320 days per year. What does this mean?

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 04, 2011, 05:32:26 am
I appreciate your thoughts..

yep, this is the gist of what I personally believe. For people living in what is now the USA I would say its basically unlikely that these particular animals we see there always provided enough fat to exist year round on meat/fat only diets, which is why they didn't always do so. What we do see still in A.D. is people that prioritize fat and can obtain it.

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“The buffalo meat, however, is the great staple and ‘staff of life’ in this country, and seldom (if ever) fails to afford them an abundant and wholesome means of subsistence.  There are, from a fair computation, something like 250,000 Indians in these western regions, who live almost exclusively on the flesh of these animals, through every part of the year.  During the summer and fall months they use the meat fresh and cook it in a great variety of ways, by roasting, broiling, boiling, stewing, and smoking; and by boiling the ribs and joints with the marrow in them, make a delicious soup, which is universally used, and in vast quantities.”

North American Indians by George Catlin  (A tribute to a lost way of life. From 1831 to 1837)

I don't think its necessarily a scenario of gathering tongues from a bunch of animals while discarding the rest in some spoiled dead animal anarchy. I think there is the idea that one CAN indeed prioritize fat without weighing in the entire % leanness in an animal and say that there is quite a bit of fat there in terms of calories from those fat sources.

Also all muscle meat contributes macrnonutrient fat and even 1lb of internal or external fat without the marrow ,organs etc.. therefore could go a long way towards catching something else. Most animals I assume have to have internal fat protecting the organs. Maybe someone could weigh in on how much kidney fat is in a deer. The larger ones that died out..probably had quite a bit being larger - no matter how lean. When that happened likely was it made sense to cook and pasture fattier food. :/

This doesn't mean that there weren't grazing animals in Africa or whatever other origin that did not supply such. The idea that all animals need to be lean to exist in nature to move around or whatever is obviously false. I guess dwelling on such unknowns however is akin to saying humans were always meant to live in a tropical environment. The point is, for a modern person they have a choice of what to eat, and choose what is most logical and available. The addition of cooked or raw carbs complicates that argument and of course could be argued as superior but it remains that one could get 60-80% fat in nature as indeed totally possible, where eating the reverse ratio in protein is possibly deadly.  Some references here to traditional peoples in relation to lean meats (not rabbit starvation) http://www.mercola.com/article/diet/caveman_cuisine.htm. (http://www.mercola.com/article/diet/caveman_cuisine.htm.) Have to view behind the advert unfortunately..
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 04, 2011, 05:54:44 am
The actual percentage of physical fat deposits on an animal is not important. If you use up every section of the leanest of animal  you can easily be eating many meals of more than 60% fat by calorie. This would be particularly true if your diet did not involve catching a single animal and bringing it back home to dine exclusively on, but mirrored more the actual processes generally available in nature. In a situation like the plains with some larger predators not being able to make use of things such as marrow, humans are very capable - and thought to thrive - scavenging and picking out bone marrow, brain etc... This is not even accounting for other fats such as plants or fats of other animals in other climates. Some people emphasize fat as their main macronutrient without eating much of it (or any with modern folks) from animals such as those found in coconuts and mongono, avocado etc..

Yeah, nice arguments from an abviously fat loving raw paleo dieter!

Look at my avatar picture and you see my main fat (and energy) source.

The discussion over fat as a nutrient and as a energy source are totally different. Many see fats as the most important nutrient (or just other macronutrients as more problematic) but the issue for most people is energy. People dwell on their own macronutrient percentage of fat because generally when one is limiting carbs in a current artificial climate its going to indicate how much of the diets energy is coming from fats and how much the body is working to get it from protein. Its simple math that if one is eating less than 20%, 10% or 5 % of a diet from carbs and less than 30% of their diet is fat than you are going to be dealing with maybe 400 g! of protein or more DAILY for the average inactive person. with 50% fat its still going to be around 300g protein! Keep in mind in nature one would need to be active, possibly for long periods of time which would require being able to burn fat, OR having a constant and regular supply year round of carbohydrates.

There is a general consensus that VERY high protein intakes are everything else than health promoting. My own experiments confirm this. If I go continously over 200g of protein per day, I feel like shit and get in trouble. 200g protein are only ca. 800 calories. Ok, I'm not a calorie fanatic and I can easily live comfortably with far under the recommended calorie intake for my body size for many weeks. 100grams of protein per day seems to resonate very well with my body needs. That are only 400 calories.

Basically if you took an entire animal even if its BF percentage was extremely low you could still get quite a large quantity in grams of fat from it. Possibly enough to walk away with food for weeks or more.

One irrelvant thought on this: How many human beings (out of 7 billion) on Mother Earth could follow such a 'lex Rooker' diet based on wild animals? 0,001 percent?

Eating muscle meats as a primary fuel in areas absent of much plants carbs I'm not sure would be a suitable option.

Definetely impossible, IMO.

If one isn't eating a large part of their energy as fat or plant based carbs you are inevitably talking about inadequate energy and potentially problematic intake of proteins.

'Problematic'? POISONING!

For a modern person its pretty self-explanatory.
a diet of 1 banana, 5 lbs of separated-lean deer meat and 1 deer brain yields: 3188 calories 73/03/25 protein/carbs/fat for the moderately active adult male. This works out to be 500+ g of protein.

Have you ever tried such a 73 percent protein diet? I would say that it is not possible over a prolonged time. I got massive heart problems on such experiments, even with 'only' 3-4 pounds of muscle meat from domestic animals.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 04, 2011, 06:07:03 am
Have you ever tried such a 73 percent protein diet? I would say that it is not possible over a prolonged time. I got massive heart problems on such experiments, even with 'only' 3-4 pounds of muscle meat from domestic animals.

right, well you may have missed that was not presenting that as adequate or at all a good idea. Generally above I was just being fair that no one knows for certain that 300,400,500+ grams of protein is bad or even unnatural, but does seem to be, scientifically, not to mention unnecessary or inefficient for energy. just another observation: cycling from mostly plant carbs to eating lots of lean meats I don't think requires the same (or any) transition as this is basically the same thing when contrasted with transitioning from that approach to a much lower protein and low carbs for extended periods or for fasting and exerting lots of energy.


thread should probably split off, maybe more people will weigh in then.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 04, 2011, 06:15:41 am


Conclusion: Your diet is very different from the diet of our European ancestors.

Correct?

Löwenherz

  Wrong. A more likely conclusion is that the protein ceiling theory is just a myth or that the protein ceiling figure of 100g(?) is way, way too low as an estimate.

I never had problems switching from all-fruit to all-meat for 1 week each. Problems onmy came along if I carried on for longer than that.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 04, 2011, 06:16:41 am
This doesn't mean that there weren't grazing animals in Africa or whatever other origin that did not supply such. The idea that all animals need to be lean to exist in nature to move around or whatever is obviously false.

Tyler just argued the opposite.

How much fat in wild animals? The old miracle question here.
If even a super fat looking hippo is actually lean...

We need some evidence from hunters here!

In Germany I get only super lean wild animal food. The only exception is wild boar. Possibly because they inhaled tons of corn from all these wonderful 'natural' monocultures. Last time I got some deer fat it was not only a very small amount (in relation to the whole animal carcass) but it was really completely (!) inedible. Even the worst raw beef suet that I have ever seen was much more palatable in direct comparison.

The addition of cooked or raw carbs complicates that argument and of course could be argued as superior but it remains that one could get 60-80% fat in nature as indeed totally possible..

'Indeed totally possible'? Most readers here are  not convinced. What makes you sure about this question?

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 04, 2011, 06:22:51 am
  Wrong. A more likely conclusion is that the protein ceiling theory is just a myth or that the protein ceiling figure of 100g(?) is way, way too low as an estimate.

The protein ceiling theory is not referring to absolute numbers like 100g or so. I think nearly everyone can eat more than 100 grams of animal protein per day.

If I remember correctly the protein ceiling theory is based on macronutrient ratios. That means HOW MANY PERCENT of your total calorie intake can come from protein on a constant basis.

What are your own experiences regarding this? Can you eat just lean meat from wild animals without further carbs?

And what do you think have our ancestors in Europe eaten BESIDE the (in your view) super lean wild animal food.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 04, 2011, 06:29:39 am
Generally above I was just being fair that no one knows for certain that 300,400,500+ grams of protein is bad or even unnatural, but does seem to be, scientifically, not to mention unnecessary or inefficient for energy.

Observing my own body I know that such high numbers of protein per day over a prolonged time are not bad, but disastrous. Nevertheless I wouldn't categorically exclude the theoretically possible reason that my body is just not healthy enough for such super protein intakes (due to my dietary history or whatever).

just another observation: cycling from mostly plant carbs to eating lots of lean meats I don't think requires the same (or any) transition as this is basically the same thing when contrasted with transitioning from that approach to a much lower protein and low carbs for extended periods or for fasting and exerting lots of energy.

Yes, I noticed great differences in the switch directions. Zero Carb to High Carbs causes no trouble, for example. High Carb to Zero Carb does indeed.

thread should probably split off, maybe more people will weigh in then.

Good idea.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 04, 2011, 06:31:59 am
I merely think that the maximum percentage of protein in the diet before harm occurs is way above the usual figures quoted by ZCers, and that fat-intake is not all that essential, if above a certain very low figure, that's all. Otherwise, all-meat-eating Eskimoes would constantly be in trouble, during times they could only get leaner meats. And my own experience appears to indicate that lots of lean meats minus carbs is not the end of the world.

I never bother calculating exact figures re calories and the like, I have an aversion to such clinical behaviour, as it seems to me somewhat orthorexic, but it is always possible that when I am not eating any plants/carbs I am possibly eating more fat than I think I am, in terms of overall calories, even from lean meats.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 04, 2011, 06:38:47 am
GS, horses are generally classified as providing "lean meats", being low in fat.

Whoever classified horses as lean meats must be wrong.

Where I buy my horse meat and the entire carcass is there, the tummy portion of the horse holds lots and lots of yellow fat all the time.
The trick to buying horse meat is you buy some lean meat.
And you buy some fat together with it.
And there is enough FAT to go around.

I'd wager that the person who said horse meat is LEAN is just talking about the meat portions and totally disregarding the belly portion where most of the yummy yellow FAT is!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 04, 2011, 06:45:45 am
I merely think that the maximum percentage of protein in the diet before harm occurs is way above the usual figures quoted by ZCers, and that fat-intake is not all that essential, if above a certain very low figure, that's all.

Interesting. Most zero carbers keep their protein below 50 percent of total calorie intake.
Please give me your estimate regarding protein ceiling / protein max in %.

Otherwise, all-meat-eating Eskimoes would constantly be in trouble, during times they could only get leaner meats. And my own experience appears to indicate that lots of lean meats minus carbs is not the end of the world.

Didn't they have blubber all year round?

I never bother calculating exact figures re calories and the like, I have an aversion to such clinical behaviour, as it seems to me somewhat orthorexic, but it is always possible that when I am not eating any plants/carbs I am possibly eating more fat than I think I am, in terms of overall calories, even from lean meats.

Yes I know and I understand this. But then we have to compare apples with oranges. I have never heard that any zero carber goes beyond 50 % protein. Therefore I remain skeptical. Without measuring (for a short but reasonable time) you can never offer other readers here your own experiences regarding the protein ceiling.

I have to assume that you eat huge amounts of fruit (in comparison to Lex etc.) and I really wonder if you don't see and/or feel bad side effects. Nearly all instinctos I know here in Germany reported joint problems from long-term fruit consumption, for example.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 04, 2011, 06:48:13 am
Whoever classified horses as lean meats must be wrong.

Where I buy my horse meat and the entire carcass is there, the tummy portion of the horse holds lots and lots of yellow fat all the time.
The trick to buying horse meat is you buy some lean meat.
And you buy some fat together with it.
And there is enough FAT to go around.

I'd wager that the person who said horse meat is LEAN is just talking about the meat portions and totally disregarding the belly portion where most of the yummy yellow FAT is!

GS, would it be possible to upload some photos of your fatty horses?

Are you sure that these horses have not been grainfed?

Please remember that we are talking about wild animals here. But as far as I know the breeding processes didn't affect horses as much as cows..

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 04, 2011, 06:51:25 am

How much fat in wild animals? The old miracle question here.
If even a super fat looking hippo is actually lean...

'Indeed totally possible'? Most readers here are  not convinced. What makes you sure about this question?

Löwenherz


You seem to be playing devils advocate now. I don't see what there is to be convinced about. Regardless of how 'muscular' a hippo or a horse is there is tons of fat in grams there when accounting for the whole animal and not measuring against its entire lean mass. Talking about what is sustainable for 7 bil is not the same as diets that have history of actually getting that much fat in nature, which does indeed prove that you can live off the fat of animals in that range and as primary fuel without killing 100 large animals per person. Its plausible because it has actual precedent in nature with all wild animals in recorded history and not theory. Diets that eat only the muscle of animals without the organs. marrow etc..lacking significant carbs as a year round diet do not - to my knowledge - whether some at times lacking fat went on heavier protein benders or not.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 04, 2011, 07:05:12 am
I can only go by what wikipedia and other sites say re horsemeat being lean:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_meat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_meat)

True, though, I suppose horses could become pretty fat, just like cattle, if they are fed mainly on oats and grains instead of just grass.

No idea re protein ceiling. I just note that eating lots of very lean meats and no fruits does not harm me. Now, granted, I don't necessarily stick to this all the time, and sometimes have lots of fats or lots of carbs as well or instead, but there is no immediate sign of problems re excess protein even if I consume only lean meats and hardly any carbs for a week or two.

Eskimoes did not always have access to blubber, some had only access to lean caribou.

As regards fruit, it all varies:- sometimes for a week I eat large amounts of fruit, sometimes I'll eat no fruit at all. More usually, it's just a little fruit, here and there. If I eat only raw fruit for more than 2 weeks, I start getting  problems with blood-sugar-levels(have only done that when I started rawpalaeo all those years ago), but that's all, since I don't continue eating all-fruit, these days, for more than a week.



Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 04, 2011, 07:08:50 am
You seem to be playing devils advocate now. I don't see what there is to be convinced about.

The point I'm thinking about is:

If there really WAS not 'enough' fat in wild animals the RAW paleo idea would be logically completely inconsistent (due to a lack of fruits) in comparison to Wrangham & Co.

Of course, such thoughts are irrelevant in our daily practise if you are not trying (like I have) to make a 100 % local VLC RAW paleo diet based on 100% wild game meat possible. Such dietary parameters require the domestication of animals in todays world. But maybe GS finds much fattier wild animals than Tyler... hehehe. OK, enough for today.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hanna on November 04, 2011, 07:19:20 am
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There are, from a fair computation, something like 250,000 Indians in these western regions, who live almost exclusively on the flesh of these animals, through every part of the year. 

This is simply not correct. AFAIK (almost?) all Indians in North America, except the Inuit, ate mostly plant foods; they grew domesticated plants such as corn (which was eaten by almost all tribes), pumpkin etc.; they traded, for example buffalo meat for corn, etc.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 04, 2011, 07:35:28 am
This is simply not correct. AFAIK (almost?) all Indians in North America, except the Inuit, ate mostly plant foods; they grew domesticated plants such as corn (which was eaten by almost all tribes), pumpkin etc.; they traded, for example buffalo meat for corn, etc.

Its taken from a first hand account (book) written at the time so not sure what info you are using to contradict that there could be those large numbers eating almost entirely animal foods (which could still be small in comparison to total native population in North America) for parts of the year. The book very well might be entirely discredited, but I see no reason to believe this is so as there are plenty of other accounts one could choose from that equally paint various American  Indian tribes as 'guts and grease' dieters.  Maybe 250,000 or the lack of balance to the diet is an exaggeration. They all did eat plant food, with large demographics cultivating food maybe. The idea that they all ate 'mostly plant food' is actually what has been discredited to my knowledge.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 04, 2011, 08:05:23 am
The point I'm thinking about is:

If there really WAS not 'enough' fat in wild animals the RAW paleo idea would be logically completely inconsistent (due to a lack of fruits) in comparison to Wrangham & Co.

Of course, such thoughts are irrelevant in our daily practise if you are not trying (like I have) to make a 100 % local VLC RAW paleo diet based on 100% wild game meat possible. Such dietary parameters require the domestication of animals in todays world.


The way I see it, it doesn't matter if we are meant to eat from the proportions of tropics (many decedents of which still ate high fat) or meant to eat decaying meat, brains and bone marrow almost exclusively. We have records of humans eating the typical high fat 'paleo' diet and living without what most people will label as disease as well as contemporary people reversing disease often better than other approaches.  Because of that there seems to be plenty of good theories for eating larger quanties of fat than even HGs or ancient folks as well as reducing protein and carbs at least in some cases.

Many peoples WOULD and did indeed have had to consume cooked starches to survive in most non-tropical climates if they did not acess to sufficient fat. Despite this, there does seem to be people that did get adequate fat without resorting to extreme heavy protein and raw or cooked carbs in nature. So, just because one can get some lean game that this isn't necessarily accurate to what was actually acquired by some people in nature even without resorting to theories of mythical animals. Talking examples in the last 2000 years or so. Like you perhaps I do not believe this is sufficient in proving a high fat 'paleo' diet to be the best, healthiest, or even most accurate to how people actually ate in nature millions of years ago, only that there are examples of people doing so IN NATURE, that it isn't a construction purely of market availability.

Even if there is no 'protein ceiling' people have to realize that you have to use far more energy and time when you are actually acquiring food. These guys that trek through Antarctica and such are using 7000 calories a day just dragging their supplies around which is likely less weight than a heavy kill. The idea that one spends 2-3 k calories a day makes a diet with lower ranges of protein carbs and fats somewhat normal than the large deficit that would have to come from fat or carbs to survive various points in history.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Dorothy on November 04, 2011, 08:14:14 am
This is simply not correct. AFAIK (almost?) all Indians in North America, except the Inuit, ate mostly plant foods; they grew domesticated plants such as corn (which was eaten by almost all tribes), pumpkin etc.; they traded, for example buffalo meat for corn, etc.

Hanna, I'm supposing that this was after fire and cooking in terms of using the corn and pumpkin or are you referring to eating these foods raw?

Are later Native American accounts after agriculture and the common use of cooking pertinent to RAW paleo? (I mean that as a serious question).

Here's another serious question: How much of our diets need to be modified to account for generations and early lifetimes of poor eating? Even if our ancestors did not eat much fat or get much fruit - does that necessarily mean that we shouldn't be?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 04, 2011, 08:29:46 am
The point I'm thinking about is:

If there really WAS not 'enough' fat in wild animals the RAW paleo idea would be logically completely inconsistent (due to a lack of fruits) in comparison to Wrangham & Co.

Of course, such thoughts are irrelevant in our daily practise if you are not trying (like I have) to make a 100 % local VLC RAW paleo diet based on 100% wild game meat possible. Such dietary parameters require the domestication of animals in todays world. But maybe GS finds much fattier wild animals than Tyler... hehehe. OK, enough for today.

Löwenherz


In Paleo Philippines (1520s) when the Spaniards first arrived, they said this land was the land of PLENTY.
Lots and lots of honey for everyone.
Lots and lots of fruit for everyone.
Lots and lots of very FAT wild game for everyone where those wild pigs munched on tons of fruit.

Attached is a photo of a horse meat market stall.
There is a yellow slab hung that is the belly, where the seller gets all the fat the customers need.

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: sabertooth on November 04, 2011, 08:30:46 am
The Voice Vs Alistair Overeem - Part 2 Of 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4QiSBXXzi0#ws)
 This guy eats a lot of horsemeat.

I attend a weekly grill night at a marital arts gym and the fighters were talking about my how this guy claims horse meat has the best protein . I eat all my meat raw in front of the group, and since I have been going I have convinced many people  to switch from well done to bloody rare steaks. This last time a guy there had his steak so bloody it was bleeding through the paper plate.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 04, 2011, 08:31:20 am
Are later Native American accounts after agriculture and the common use of cooking pertinent to RAW paleo? (I mean that as a serious question).

Here's another serious question: How much of our diets need to be modified to account for generations and early lifetimes of poor eating? Even if our ancestors did not eat much fat or get much fruit - does that necessarily mean that we shouldn't be?

I think she was just trying to say that their diet was not mostly fat or even mostly animal based, not what diet is ideal. The accounts to my understanding are not that homogeneous.

Personally I am in the camp that believes that people in nature have done well on fat based diets but that other people in the past likely achieved far better health than most people today doing a variety of things. The key is finding which variables are most tied to what is important in nature and not being too out of balance with that, but adapting these things, taking advantage of whatever circumstances are positive and as you say - accounting for various conditions of environment, inheritance etc... For that reason sometimes emphasizing things that seem natural (because they contain all natural foods...) are not as important or more detrimental than larger aspects of balance with what was actually working in nature or represent other necessary components of diet.


Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 04, 2011, 08:46:51 am
This is simply not correct. AFAIK (almost?) all Indians in North America, except the Inuit, ate mostly plant foods; they grew domesticated plants such as corn (which was eaten by almost all tribes), pumpkin etc.; they traded, for example buffalo meat for corn, etc.
What is actually correct is that the Indians in the south were the ones who grew corn and were agrarian. The Indians in the North, south of the Inuit, however, were not agrarian, and lived instead on meats, pemmican and the like, not corn. At least, that's according to the WAPF, last I checked.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on November 04, 2011, 09:27:56 am
I despise the phrase "must have" that was used in this thread recently. Anyone who uses that automatically loses the argument, no matter how good their other points. It's anti-science. Please shoot me if I use it. Sorry, major pet peeve.  -[

Some people have been making a lot of guesses and assumptions, which is typical on the Internet. Instead of doing that, why not read all you can about the actual hunter gatherer, pastoral and horticultural peoples you've been making guesses about and learn what you can? It's much more interesting and rewarding than pure speculation. Why not do as Stephen Covey advised and seek first to understand, then to be understood?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Dorothy on November 04, 2011, 09:54:21 am
I despise the phrase "must have" that was used in this thread recently. Anyone who uses that automatically loses the argument, no matter how good their other points. It's anti-science. Please shoot me if I use it. Sorry, major pet peeve.  -[

Some people have been making a lot of guesses and assumptions, which is typical on the Internet. Instead of doing that, why not read all you can about the actual hunter gatherer, pastoral and horticultural peoples you've been making guesses about and learn what you can? It's much more interesting and rewarding than pure speculation. Why not do as Stephen Covey advised and seek first to understand, then to be understood?

Phil, what has your research shown on the fat content of the native peoples' diets? What pertinence do you think it has to our present diet?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on November 04, 2011, 09:56:22 am
There is an EXTREMELY wide range of macronutrient contents in the diets of native/traditional peoples. Macronutrient ratios bore me at this point. Come to think of it, anyone who argues for a macronutrient ratio for the whole human race automatically loses the argument.

One can make a plausible argument for facultative carnivory (though I wouldn't, at this point--I prefer my term, "adaptivore," currently), but not for a single narrow range of carb or fat intake for all human beings. A pox on the mythical models of both the low-fat vegans and the zero carbers who claim that all humans should eat like them. Neither has much of anything to do with reality or science. That's not to say that some people don't fare well on those diets, it's only when they expect or demand that everyone, or thereabouts, eat like them that I take issue.

I forgot to mention that folks can also search for info on our Stone Age ancestors as well, since the foods available to HGs today are not quite the same as was available in the past (basically, there were way more megafauna in the past).
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Dorothy on November 04, 2011, 10:28:54 am
There are a couple of people where I live that are putting together a massive set of volumes of edible plants and especially which ones were used by the real people of this area. I look forward to soon having the time and opportunity to help them in that work. Sometimes it's not so easy to really know what was eaten, how it has changed - especially taking into consideration climate change, or how that would pertain to eating a completely raw food diet as so many of the wild plant foods that I know of here need to be cooked to be edible. The research is a massive project that hasn't been done before and will take many years - probably decades. I sometimes think the only way to know here what a raw paleo diet for this area would be is to figure out what it could possibly even be - what the raw food options even are.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on November 04, 2011, 11:18:23 am
Yes, questions more than answers are the province of science.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on November 04, 2011, 11:23:11 am
Macronutrient ratios--eat what works.  Cold weather seems to demand more fat, hot weather more carbs, but ultimately, you have to find a balance for yourself.

GS--that slab of horse belly fat is making my mouth water. :)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on November 04, 2011, 11:27:54 am
I have to assume being on a diet with plentiful raw and cooked carbohydrates as well as adequate protein there would be basically no reason to create/make pemmican - a food meant to extend energy that would not be sustained with just lean dried meats. Seeing since there should be no 'problem' with eating fresh or dried meats with constant plentiful carbs, I'm not sure if it would have much of a function at all for carb based metabolisms other then the fact that one can store it perhaps better than some agrarian carb foods. I guess one could argue they only used it when traveling (or scarcity), but that doesn't seem to be the case. The very fact that they were able to make pemmmican (the kind not from marrow) would suggest that fats were somewhat plentiful at least at various times of the year. At the very least in the paleo period of fire/organization it would be plausible that fats could be stored that way, not to mention that fats also last quite a long time raw, particulary in cooler/cold temperatures.  Similary in regards to both the West and the North, Indians seemed to avoid hunting certain animals in lean times allowing them to fatten up through other seasons and scouted out fatty fish or marine mammals.

(http://www.nefsc.noaa.gov/ecosys/ecology/ProtectedSpecies/Pinnipeds/images/HarborSealPolygons.gif)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 04, 2011, 04:09:41 pm
Some people have been making a lot of guesses and assumptions, which is typical on the Internet. Instead of doing that, why not read all you can about the actual hunter gatherer, pastoral and horticultural peoples you've been making guesses about and learn what you can? It's much more interesting and rewarding than pure speculation. Why not do as Stephen Covey advised and seek first to understand, then to be understood?
Food-science is so new a science as is palaeoanthropology, that sometimes one has to make guesses based on very few facts, so "must have" isn't the end of the world to use as a phrase.

As for HGs, like we said before, what HGs do today likely does not resemble what palaeo HGs did in the past. For example, palaeo HGs had access to lots of megafauna which modern HGs don't.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hanna on November 04, 2011, 04:35:08 pm
What is actually correct is that the Indians in the south were the ones who grew corn and were agrarian. The Indians in the North, south of the Inuit, however, were not agrarian, and lived instead on meats, pemmican and the like, not corn. At least, that's according to the WAPF, last I checked.

They did not only eat meat but also starchy foods. Please research for yourself. Just three examples from memory:

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Early on, until about 2000 BC, people in North America ate only wild foods that they could hunt or gather.
These foods varied according to the environment where each group of people lived. Inuit people, who lived in the far north along the coasts of the Arctic Ocean and in Alaska, ate a lot of fish and seal meat, and gathered seaweed. Chinook people, who lived a little further south in the Pacific Northwest (modern Oregon and Washington) ate a lot of salmon, and wapato, which was a lot like potatoes. Further south, Californian people ate a lot of bread made from acorns.

http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/northamerica/before1500/food/index.htm (http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/northamerica/before1500/food/index.htm)

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Wapato has played an important role in Katzie traditional lifeways. ...wapato produces starchy tubers which were an ethnographically known food source for native groups throughout much of North America. ... Wapato provided the Katzie with a predictable carbohydrate balance to a largely protein diet which was based on a salmon, both these food items being predictable resources. The Katzie and their neighbors maintained relationships associated with the growing and trade of wapato which is harvested in the fall/winter months, a time of year when air and water temperatures are cold.

http://www.sfu.ca/archaeology/museum/peb/wapato1.html (http://www.sfu.ca/archaeology/museum/peb/wapato1.html)

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One of the food staples particularly enjoyed by the Ojibwa and Menominee was wild rice, which is not a true rice but rather a cereal grass-Zizania aquatica-which grows in shallow lakes and streams. It ripens in late summer, usually from the middle of August to early September. Native people in the Great Lakes boiled rice and ate it with corn, beans, or squash. Meat, a small amount of grease, or maple sugar was often added for seasoning. As a treat, it was occasionally parched like popcorn. For storage, rice was placed in birchbark containers. If a family wished to leave some rice in an area they would return to later in the year, they buried a dugout canoe full of rice on the sunny slope of a hill, so rain water would drain off and not spoil the grain. It was said that rice cached this way would keep as long as two years.
Wild rice was so important to the Menominee that they became known as the Wild Rice people.
http://www.mpm.edu/wirp/icw-36.html (http://www.mpm.edu/wirp/icw-36.html)


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Native Americans not only utilized several wild species of goosefoot, they also domesticated Chenopodium in at least three different regions of the Americas -- in the Andes of South America, in Middle America, and in the Eastern Woodlands of North America. One species, Chenopodium quinoa, or quinoa (KEEN-wah), was domesticated in the South American Andes about 5,000 years ago. The fruit of this plant, a seedlike "achene", is cultivated commercially and is growing in popularity as a replacement for grains such as rice, wheat, and oats. Another species, Chenopodium berlandieri, is one of four plants that were actually domesticated in the Eastern Woodlands of North America prior to the introduction and wide utilization of corn (maize).
http://www.texasbeyondhistory.net/st-plains/nature/images/chenopod.html (http://www.texasbeyondhistory.net/st-plains/nature/images/chenopod.html)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hanna on November 04, 2011, 05:39:07 pm
Indian trade:

They grow corn, beans and squash. Taos Pueblo is famous for trading with the plains Indian tribes for buffalo hides and meat. They traded corn for these things.

http://www.texasindians.com/kiowa.htm (http://www.texasindians.com/kiowa.htm)

The Cheyennes traded regularly with other tribes of the Great Plains. Once they stopped farming, they especially liked to trade buffalo hides for tobacco and corn.

http://www.bigorrin.org/cheyenne_kids.htm (http://www.bigorrin.org/cheyenne_kids.htm)

The Cheyenne used dogs to drag sleds filled with their belongings. They were great traders. They did not plant crops. Rather, they traded skins for corn and tobacco and other items with other Plains tribes.

http://nativeamericans.mrdonn.org/plains/cheyenne.html (http://nativeamericans.mrdonn.org/plains/cheyenne.html)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on November 04, 2011, 07:39:17 pm
Food-science is so new a science as is palaeoanthropology, that sometimes one has to make guesses based on very few facts, so "must have" isn't the end of the world to use as a phrase.
Except that "must have" isn't a guess, it's a certainty as well as an assumption, which is my beef with that. Science is not about certainties, especially when the science is so new, as you admitted. Thanks for making my point.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 05, 2011, 08:20:27 pm
Many peoples WOULD and did indeed have had to consume cooked starches to survive in most non-tropical climates if they did not acess to sufficient fat.

Exactly. A low fat 100% RAW paleo diet NEVER existed in any cold region at any time.

Either you eat cooked starches beside lean meat or you eat sufficient amounts of animal fats beside lean meat. Fruits (like in Tylers diet) have never been available.


Even if there is no 'protein ceiling' ..

There is indeed a protein ceiling. Have you tried to eat a diet of mainly (todays available) super-lean wild meats?

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 05, 2011, 08:24:14 pm
In Paleo Philippines (1520s) when the Spaniards first arrived, they said this land was the land of PLENTY.
..

GS, thanks for your photos. These horse meats are really super fat! Is it grain-fed meat?

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 05, 2011, 08:33:19 pm
No idea re protein ceiling. I just note that eating lots of very lean meats and no fruits does not harm me. Now, granted, I don't necessarily stick to this all the time, and sometimes have lots of fats or lots of carbs as well or instead, but there is no immediate sign of problems re excess protein even if I consume only lean meats and hardly any carbs for a week or two.

You can really eat just lean (wild) meats without carbs or additional fats for one or two weeks?

REALLY?

And how much super-lean meat do or can you eat in such days? How many pounds?

Let me repeat: You say you can eat for example exclusively leg of deer (ca. 3% fat) for seven days??

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 05, 2011, 08:36:22 pm
..Even if our ancestors did not eat much fat or get much fruit - does that necessarily mean that we shouldn't be?

That's a good question. Many people claim that our paleo ancestors in cold regions had a really miserable life and a extremely short lifespan.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 05, 2011, 08:50:08 pm
..Some people have been making a lot of guesses and assumptions, which is typical on the Internet. Instead of doing that, why not read all you can about the actual hunter gatherer, pastoral and horticultural peoples you've been making guesses about and learn what you can?

We are talking about the Paleolithic era here. No books have been written at that time. What can we learn from actual hunter gatherer groups, Phil? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Most of them smoke and drink alcohol etc.

Löwenherz

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 05, 2011, 09:06:30 pm
Personally I am in the camp that believes that people in nature have done well on fat based diets..

Same here. And it makes sense.

Everyone around me eats cooked starches. Most of the 7 billion people on this planet eat cooked starches. Nevertheless I view cooked starches as crap food. Definitely nothing for me.

Many years I thought (like most instinctos) that it is the trick to replace cooked starches with fruit sugar. At the beginning everything was perfect. Today I have to admit that I need too much time to realize the damage done by fructose.

PP thinks that macronutrient ratios don't matter. That's silly. And the whole dietary scenario is not a labyrinth but actually a very simple construction.

You can live mainly on sugar OR fats. If you choose sugar you have two options:
a) cooked starches
b) fruits
Both possibilities are not optimal. Whereas in the long-run cooked starches are definetely better than fructose. Sugar should never be our main energy source.

Conclusion: A fat based diet is the ONLY available answer.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 05, 2011, 09:22:05 pm
They did not only eat meat but also starchy foods. Please research for yourself. Just three examples from memory:

Hanna, it is well possible that THESE people at THAT time have eaten starches. Your references belong to the NEOLITHIKUM!

For me, this was the beginning of our todays misery.

Starch based diets produced our todays sick and stupid mankind.

Löwenherz

PS: Fruit sugar is very destructive and makes you age faster, BUT it doesn't make you stupid (as long as you get enough animal protein).
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 05, 2011, 09:30:06 pm
You can really eat just lean (wild) meats without carbs or additional fats for one or two weeks?

REALLY?

And how much super-lean meat do or can you eat in such days? How many pounds?

Let me repeat: You say you can eat for example exclusively leg of deer (ca. 3% fat) for seven days??

Löwenherz

Well, no, but I've eaten raw leg of grassfed lamb for up to 10 days, with minimal fruit eaten.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 05, 2011, 09:37:55 pm
Well, no, but I've eaten raw leg of grassfed lamb for up to 10 days, with minimal fruit eaten.

OK, I can cool down now. You seem to be normal.

Leg of grassfed lamb has usually 50% fat by calories, even if it looks lean. The additional fruit pushes your protein intake during these days significantly below 50%.

Next time please eat just leg of deer... and you will cry.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 05, 2011, 09:43:21 pm
I've eaten raw venison by itself for something like 3 or 4  days at a time, with no issues. Not a regular occurrence given the price, but it did me no harm. I doubt 7 days would make a difference.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on November 05, 2011, 09:50:28 pm
Same here. And it makes sense.

Everyone around me eats cooked starches. Most of the 7 billion people on this planet eat cooked starches. Nevertheless I view cooked starches as crap food. Definitely nothing for me.

Many years I thought (like most instinctos) that it is the trick to replace cooked starches with fruit sugar. At the beginning everything was perfect. Today I have to admit that I need too much time to realize the damage done by fructose.

PP thinks that macronutrient ratios don't matter. That's silly. And the whole dietary scenario is not a labyrinth but actually a very simple construction.

You can live mainly on sugar OR fats. If you choose sugar you have two options:
a) cooked starches
b) fruits
Both possibilities are not optimal. Whereas in the long-run cooked starches are definetely better than fructose. Sugar should never be our main energy source.

Conclusion: A fat based diet is the ONLY available answer.

Löwenherz


My terribly sick son is healing on:

Fruit:
- diluted orange juice
- durian
- graviola
- papaya
- mango

Raw Wild Honey

Raw fish ceviche (hasa hasa with skin and eyes, malasugi)
- with calamansi fruit (like lemon)
- with onions
- with ginger

Raw clams

Raw duck eggs

Cod Liver Oil and Butter Oil

(Raw beef will be introduced to him next week).

I live in the Philippines and in my experience our fruits rock.  Maybe your fruits suck.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 05, 2011, 09:55:12 pm
I've eaten raw venison by itself for something like 3 or 4  days at a time, with no issues. Not a regular occurrence given the price, but it did me no harm. I doubt 7 days would make a difference.

If we reduce your diet to the super-lean deer muscle meat without fruit in these 7 days

YOU WILL CRY.

But I'm always open to learn and would see this experiment with my own eyes.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on November 05, 2011, 10:01:50 pm
    Half a bison steak and half a butter-bell.

Let me repeat: You say you can eat for example exclusively leg of deer (ca. 3% fat) for seven days??

    How does deer marrow fat compare with beef?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 05, 2011, 10:03:50 pm
My terribly sick son is healing on:

Fruit:
...

GS, your own son is terribly sick? I guess he gets too much junk food in school...

Fruit + fish is indeed a very healing diet! I would never doubt it. I have done this too when I lived in Malaysia and other tropical places. And of course, the fruit you can get in your home country is not comparable to the quality here in Europe.

What I say is that in the long-run the fructose in fruit is very problematic. The fructose will damage the body of your son, too. It just needs a long time to become visible. In the long-run fats are a better choice. I really envy you for high quality coconuts.

BTW: The healing of your son is NOT done by huge amounts of fruit. The ABSENCE of junk is mainly responsible (and fruit accelerates the junk cleansing process).

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on November 05, 2011, 11:45:23 pm
What can we learn from actual hunter gatherer groups, Phil? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Most of them smoke and drink alcohol etc.

Löwenherz
I've learned a lot more from them than I have from your speculations. Why are you eating a hunter-gatherer style diet if you think you can learn absolutely nothing from hunter gatherers who had been doing it for thousands of years before you came along and declared their experience to be useless? Why wouldn't you be well served by less pontificating and more learning?

That's a good question. Many people claim that our paleo ancestors in cold regions had a really miserable life and a extremely short lifespan.

Löwenherz
"Many people claim" is not evidence.

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PP thinks that macronutrient ratios don't matter. That's silly.
That's a silly oversimplification I've what I've said. I've said they're not the end-all and be-all that some make them out to be, NOT that they never matter at all. Some put too much emphasis on macronutrient ratio and not enough on other factors. Neither low-carb nor low-fat is the answer to all obesity or health issues.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 06, 2011, 03:01:40 am
The mere fact that some HGs did something for 1,000s of years by no means makes it healthy. People have been cooking for millenia, and recent  multitude of scientific studies have shown just how harmful cooking is, for example.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on November 06, 2011, 03:17:36 am
The mere fact that some HGs did something for 1,000s of years by no means makes it healthy.  People have been cooking for millenia, and recent  multitude of scientific studies have shown just how harmful cooking is, for example.
Correct, which is why I've never made that claim and have frequently warned against making that assumption and I supported the same cooking example by reporting on the Giant Panda example, which you yourself then cited (see also the text in my signature and icon caption for further reminders that I don't use the approach you're critiquing).

Do you agree with Lowenherz where he made this absolute claim without providing any evidence?:
What can we learn from actual hunter gatherer groups, Phil? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
It would appear that you think that we can at least learn that tubers were the least-preferred of the staple foods of the Hadza from the study that you and I cited and discussed.

Isn't it true that raw Paleolithic diets are not new and that hunter-gatherer diets are the most traditional human dietary approach and doesn't it make sense that we might learn at least some things from the populations and individuals (including folks like Iguana who have been trying raw-Paleo-like approaches for longer than we have, not just hunter-gatherer peoples) in the world whose diets most closely resemble what you classify as a raw Paleo diet, using whatever definition you choose, for much longer than we have been doing? Again, I'm not advocating that anyone blindly emulate anyone, I'm just asking is it possible to learn something and could we use a bit more focus on learning and longer-term experience and thorough experimentation than on speculating and prescribing or advocating for others based on those speculations?

And don't take my word for it. I encourage folks to read something like that Hadza study and see if you don't learn at least a lit bit about something: http://www.epjournal.net/filestore/EP07601616.pdf (http://www.epjournal.net/filestore/EP07601616.pdf)

Or if that doesn't interest you, maybe the work of someone like Ray Mears who has lived in the wild for weeks at a time and observed many traditional peoples may:
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The Ray Mears caveman diet
The survival expert Ray Mears tells why we should all be eating like our hunter-gatherer ancestors

Emma Smith
October 12, 2008
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/men/article4919415.ece (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/men/article4919415.ece)
Forget those faddish diets: the grapefruit diet, the South Beach diet, the cabbage soup diet, Posh Spice’s latest starvation diet. There’s only one diet real men need to worry about and that’s the Paleo Diet - aka the Caveman Diet - which, in its most basic form, consists of what our hunter-gatherer ancestors would have eaten.

Who says so? Ray Mears. He’s qualified to pronounce on such matters because he has spent more than a decade researching what our distant forebears used to survive on. He has also spent weeks in the wild with nothing more to eat than nuts, berries and lean meat. These, he believes, are the key to avoiding illness and premature death associated with our excessive western consumption of refined sugar and carbohydrate.

Namibia Ray Mears S1E5 part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fB8n8QM0xY&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fB8n8QM0xY&NR=1)
Ray Mears on Ju hoansi Bushmen of Namibia
There's tons and tons of info available nowadays and no excuse any more really, if there ever was, for railing at people based on speculations, unless one's only purpose is venting off steam rather than actually learning anything.

Of course, keep in mind that no one person or group of people has all the answers, so don't rely on a single source of information. In that vein, Tyler, you have provided useful advice about not idolizing gurus.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 06, 2011, 05:20:41 am
I've learned a lot more from them than I have from your speculations.

PP,

don't expect sweet comments if you write arrogant things like

Quote from: PaleoPhil
"Macronutrient ratios bore me at this point. Come to think of it, anyone who argues for a macronutrient ratio for the whole human race automatically loses the argument."

Macronutrient ratios play indeed a fundamental important role in many medical conditions, for example fungal overgrowth, epilepsy, ADHD etc.

In this forum I usually report from my own experiences with starches, grains, dairy, grain-fed meats, high fruit consumption etc. to help others who still can't believe (like me years ago) that our common staple foods can be so detrimental to health. And even if I speculate about the diet of our ancestors 10k+ years ago, whats wrong with speculating? It's part of a thinking process.

Please realize that your speculations about word combinations like "must have" are of no use for anyone.

Have you learned anything from any hunter gatherer group? Or have you just read some nice books and articles like nearly everyone else here?

Many of todays hunter gatherers are in a very poor shape and show detrimental habits like smoking and drinking alcohol. Regarding healthy diets for human beings there is not really SO much to learn, IMO. It's more about unlearning. The message is simple: Just eat all parts of HEALTHY animals (raw) and some raw plant food as desired. That's all. Much more important here are our transitory process and everyday questions like where to get healthy animal food in our 'modern' world, social issues etc.

And of course, there are many other factors beside macronutrient ratios. Nobody denies this, PP.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 06, 2011, 06:51:56 am
I already pointed out how the lack of megafauna in post-Neolithic times makes any comparison between Palaeo HGs and modern HGs ridiculous. There are many other differences, such as the fact that palaeo HGs were undoubtedly healthier prior to the advent of cooking compared to modern HGs, simply because they were not consuming vast amounts of heat-created toxins. Simply put, modern HGs were often pushed into remote areas by colonists so that their lifestyle and diet was often pretty dire by the time Weston-Price came across them in the 1930s. I gave the example of the Maori, a long while back, if you recall.

In short, it is safe to assume that the differences between tribes must be vast if they are separated by tens of thousands of years in time. Only logical.




Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: jessica on November 06, 2011, 07:12:12 am
raw TURKEY egg...!!!!
feels like early thanksgiving
anyone ever had one?  very similar in size and taste to duck eggs...totally delicious:)
my favorite is still goose, probably because they are huge and fatty and meaty
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on November 06, 2011, 07:58:18 am
To avoid diverting the thread further off-topic, I created a new thread at which to continue the discussion here:

http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/off-topic/too-many-pronouncements-too-little-thought-and-effort/msg79292/#msg79292 (http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/off-topic/too-many-pronouncements-too-little-thought-and-effort/msg79292/#msg79292)

And thanks, Jessica, for posting an on-topic post that reminded me to not stray too long off topic.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: sabertooth on November 06, 2011, 09:35:10 am
I just bought three turkeys and three rabbits.

One tom and two hens

One buck and two does.

I haven't got any eggs yet, I am debating on if I should eat the tom or wait a while so I can have fertilized eggs, and a few young turkeys to replace him with first. He would make a good thanksgiving feast.

The does are pregnant and soon I should have hutches set up where I can turn grass , water and garden scraps into meat.

Lucky for me I can get free lamb fat so I can still supplement extra fat so I don't get rabbit starvation. It seems like the most economic solution to the current problem of rising lamb cost.

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The kids will help me raise and feed them all. Here are the three rabbits. My son named the buck "Josh", and the does are "Gift" and "Patty". I'm not allowed to eat them but I'm going to allow them to breed as much as they like, and it will be open season on the young.
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This is my Rhode Island Red trying to challenge my new tom.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: jessica on November 06, 2011, 10:41:41 am
haha thats awesome
super cute family, what happy little ones!(animals included!)
i cant wait to be back on a farm to hang to hang out with the animals
i love turkeys they are really amazing creatures, do yours nest in trees or up on structures? i always thought that was fascinating
rabbit poo is the best fertilizer, it doesnt burn you can just sprinkle it on whatever you are growing or make a super nice compost poo tea out of it(just add equal parts and water and a little molasses and let it ferment for a few days) and till that into your dirt
hope your jennys lay tho, ours never did and i was super suprised to have this farmer offer me a half dozen eggs today....as well as a job on his farm where he raises dairy goats and chickens and grows veggies....
so i am not digressing, i am chewing on my own saliva at the moment
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hanna on November 06, 2011, 03:39:08 pm
Would please a moderator put the whole discussion about cooked starches into a separate topic?

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Fruit sugar is very destructive and makes you age faster
If you eat fruit sugar in moderate amounts, it certainly won´t make you age faster. (I know at least one example.) Why not combine fat with sugar as energy source?


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What can we learn from actual hunter gatherer groups, Phil?
We can learn, for example, which wild foods are available in sufficient amounts given a certain environment and which diets are sustainable in the long run.

Two more carb-rich Native American foods:

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Camassia species were an important food staple for Native Americans and settlers in parts of the American Old West. Many areas in the Northwest are named for the plant ....The Quamash was a food source for many native peoples in the western United States and Canada. After being harvested in the autumn, once the flowers have withered, the bulbs were pit-roasted or boiled. A pit-cooked camas bulb looks and tastes something like baked sweet potato, but sweeter, and with more crystalline fibers due to the presence of inulin in the bulbs. When dried, the bulbs could be pounded into flour. Native American tribes who ate camas include the Nez Perce, Cree, Coast Salish, Lummi, and Blackfoot tribes, among many others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camassia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camassia)

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Hopniss is widespread in eastern North America. It grows from southern Canada to the Gulf of Mexico and from the Great Plains to the East Coast. .... Hopniss was an important food for Native Americans throughout its range. There are probably more historical and ethnographic accounts of the use of this tuber than of any other root vegetable in North America; to list them all would take pages. Hopniss was planted near village sites to provide a readily accessible food source, expanding its range in places.

"Hopniss or hapniss was the Indian name of a wild plant which they ate . . . The roots resemble potatoes, and were boiled by the Indians, who eat them instead of bread. . . . the Indians who live further in the country do not only eat these roots, which are equal in goodness to potatoes, but likewise take the pease which lie in the pods of this plant, and prepare them like common pease." - Peter Kalm, 1749 (from Kindscher, 1987)

"A woman will dig from a peck to a half bushel a day. The Indians eat them, simply boiled in water, but prefer them cooked with fat meat." - Philander Prescott, Patent Office report on Agriculture,1849
http://www.wildflowers-and-weeds.com/The_Forager/hopniss.htm (http://www.wildflowers-and-weeds.com/The_Forager/hopniss.htm)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 06, 2011, 04:44:25 pm
raw TURKEY egg...!!!!
..
anyone ever had one?

Not yet! I'm curious, do they taste like goose eggs?

How do you feed your turkeys?

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 06, 2011, 04:51:49 pm
If you eat fruit sugar in moderate amounts, it certainly won´t make you age faster. (I know at least one example.) Why not combine fat with sugar as energy source?

What are 'moderate' amounts for you? But I agree insofar as small amounts of fruit are ok. It depends on the fructose load.

High fruit + High fat usually creates problems in most people, like candida, blood sugar swings, digestive trouble, diabetes etc.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 06, 2011, 04:56:26 pm
No, it doesn't. High fat and high carb is deadly when it's cooked, but not when raw. At least that's my experience.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on November 06, 2011, 05:00:20 pm
    Eggs can be easy to digest.  Use eggs for your fat, and the fruit should be fine, still all raw of course.  How are you with fruit normally Löwenherz?  The eggs may help.  Try changing which fruit too, if you have the time etc.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on November 06, 2011, 05:02:10 pm
    Not paleo, but I just drank some A2 raw unhomogenized local grass fed milk.

I'm curious, do they taste like goose eggs?

How do you feed your turkeys?


    I can hardly wait to try turkey eggs, maybe I should get turkeys instead of chickens or duck ..
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 06, 2011, 05:03:58 pm
No, it doesn't. High fat and high carb is deadly when it's cooked, but not when raw. At least that's my experience.

It may depend on the kind of fats... Think of high nut consumption + high fruit, for example. For most people it doesn't work.

Are you eating a high fruit PLUS high fat diet?

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 06, 2011, 05:07:41 pm
    Eggs can be easy to digest.  Use eggs for your fat, and the fruit should be fine, still all raw of course.  How are you with fruit normally Löwenherz?  The eggs may help.  Try changing which fruit too, if you have the time etc.

I agree, eggs are super-easy to digest. Other fats like beef suet can be very problematic together with fruit, IMO.

I usually keep my carb/fruit intake relatively low. That means for me below 50 grams of sugar per day.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on November 06, 2011, 05:42:55 pm
I ate some turkey eggs a few years ago and since I do not remember any thing special about them, I suppose it was not very different than ducks or goose eggs. I heard that foxes are very fond of turkeys, so I don’t want any turkey in my poultry yard to attract foxes some more. Already one dug under the fence a few days ago and ate one of my hens. Anyone want to come here and help me to set an electrified wire all around the park ? It would be more useful than endless arguing.  ;) 8)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 06, 2011, 07:00:49 pm
Already one dug under the fence a few days ago and ate one of my hens. Anyone to come here and help me to set an electrified wire all around the park ? It would be more useful than endless arguing.  ;) 8)

But Iguana!

Don't you agree with the notion that nobody here would argue against the argument that electric fences are not really PALEO?

And they are even not Palaeo!

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on November 06, 2011, 07:56:44 pm
Sure, they aren't !  ;D

Unfortunately my ancestors left the warm tropical places of our origins, smashed the forests to replace them with grain fields, proliferated, killed most of the giant birds, a large part of the wild fauna, most of the sea turtles who provided plenty of the most delicious eggs and left me with hens and stupid domestic geese, so that I have now to work and use artifices to feed myself…  >:

To go back on track, I ate plenty of sapotillas about an hour ago and scallops are waiting for me on the table.   

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Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on November 06, 2011, 10:43:40 pm
Iguana--what does the orange part of the scallop taste like?  I can only get them shelled here, and all we get is the white muscle.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Dorothy on November 06, 2011, 11:18:55 pm
No, it doesn't. High fat and high carb is deadly when it's cooked, but not when raw. At least that's my experience.

I'm an example of what you say here Tyler. I don't seem to do well with raw carbs WITHOUT raw fats. With raw fats I do great with them - as long as I don't try to live on them - but that might just be me.

That's what I'm eating for breakfast - berries with ground nuts/seeds.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Dorothy on November 06, 2011, 11:22:44 pm
    Not paleo, but I just drank some A2 raw unhomogenized local grass fed milk.

    I can hardly wait to try turkey eggs, maybe I should get turkeys instead of chickens or duck ..

Turkeys really can fly, want to roost way up high in trees and are BIG. They can be a lot to handle for some - so I hear anyway.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Dorothy on November 06, 2011, 11:24:39 pm
Anyone want to come here and help me to set an electrified wire all around the park ? It would be more useful than endless arguing.  ;) 8)

If I didn't have to stay here and take care of all my animals I'd be there in a heartbeat Iguana!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on November 06, 2011, 11:39:48 pm
Iguana--what does the orange part of the scallop taste like?  I can only get them shelled here, and all we get is the white muscle.
It's the best part, called "roe" or "coral" but they don't always have it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scallop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scallop)
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Scallops are a popular type of shellfish in both Eastern and Western cooking. They are characterized by having two types of meat in one shell: the adductor muscle, called "scallop" which is white and meaty, and the roe, called "coral", which is red or white and soft.
For those of us who don't know what the strange word "cooking" means, Wikipedia has linked it...  ;D

If I didn't have to stay here and take care of all my animals I'd be there in a heartbeat Iguana!
I'm also stuck here because of my animals!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 07, 2011, 01:22:06 am
Yeah, the orange part consists of the eggs I believe. They are the best tasting part of scallops. I always get them from my local fishmonger, because the guy strives for quality in most of his goods(not the smoked products, but everything else).
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 07, 2011, 10:05:28 pm
Unfortunately my ancestors left the warm tropical places of our origins, smashed the forests to replace them with grain fields, proliferated, killed most of the giant birds, a large part of the wild fauna, most of the sea turtles who provided plenty of the most delicious eggs and...

That's my view, too.

But why left YOU the tropics and went to cold France?

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on November 07, 2011, 11:11:19 pm
Because I was bored to be immediately considered as a foreigner at first sight and treated as such, I was bored to be informed too late that lazy inactive guys had called my wife a prostitute for the only reason that she was with me, she was bored of her own people too. Our son had to go to school somewhere and we chose Switzerland as he was a Swiss citizen (like me) since the Sri Lankan authorities refused to grant him the nationality of his mother and of the country where he was born!   >:
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 08, 2011, 05:56:00 am
Because I was bored to be immediately considered as a foreigner at first sight and treated as such, I was bored to be informed too late that lazy inactive guys had called my wife a prostitute for the only reason that she was with me, she was bored of her own people too. Our son had to go to school somewhere and we chose Switzerland as he was a Swiss citizen (like me) since the Sri Lankan authorities refused to grant him the nationality of his mother and of the country where he was born!   >:
I understand. Not an easy situation for your family..

In a few days I will fly to Colombo again. Unfortunately currently in SL many negative developments take place to foster economic growth. The first highway is finished, many international profit-greedy companies smell the big deal, Russians buy land like crazy and the destruction of the environment accelerates.

Here is an article about Dole in SL:

http://news.mongabay.com/2011/0814-hance_srilanka_dole.html (http://news.mongabay.com/2011/0814-hance_srilanka_dole.html)

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on November 08, 2011, 12:43:21 pm
It's the best part, called "roe" or "coral" but they don't always have it.


Thanks . You're really making me crave it.  Does it taste like sea urchin?  Fresh sea urchin tastes soooo good.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: sabertooth on November 09, 2011, 12:00:14 pm
After three weeks of searching for another good source of food, I found someone who throws out more than I could possibly eat. They slaughter a couple of days a week and have garbage bags full of fat trimmings, heads, bones, and other scraps that normally go to the dump. It a Muslim family farm that sells almost exclusively to other Muslim families,and there isn't much market for fat trimmings or bone marrow among their costumers so I may be able to get it all for free.

What to do with over one hundred pounds of fat trimmings each week?

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Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on November 09, 2011, 12:15:11 pm
Sabertooth--is it grassfed?  I might buy some from you.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on November 09, 2011, 12:27:44 pm
    I'm eating grass finished beef shank meat and marrow and chicken liver and Wee Bee honey with capping and shallot.

They slaughter a couple of days a week and have garbage bags of fat trimmings , heads, bones, and other scraps that normally go to the dump. It a Muslim family farm that sells almost exclusively to other Muslim families,and there isn't much market for fat trimmings, bone marrow among their costumers so I may be able to get it all for free.
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    I think I'd live on brains.  I wonder if anyone ever dieted on brains exclusively.  I've gotten a good amount of excellent grass fed raw fresh marrow from a halal butcher.  They had lots of best fat trim available too (sheep legs hanging etc).  True, seems like halal people don't eat meat's fat.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hanna on November 10, 2011, 03:30:51 am
What are 'moderate' amounts for you? But I agree insofar as small amounts of fruit are ok. It depends on the fructose load.
I don´t know exactly. Personally, I seem to do fine with up to about 150 g of carbs a day, mainly from fruit (almost exclusively non-acidic fruit). Let´s say these carbs were all from banana (which usually is not the case). In this case, I would have eaten maximally 700 g banana. That would be about 24 g fructose.

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Glucose (Traubenzucker) 3786 mg/100g
Fructose (Fruchtzucker) 3636 mg/100g
Monosaccharide (1 M) 7422 mg/100g
Saccharose (Rübenzucker) 11016 mg/100g
Disaccharide (2 M) 11016 mg/100g
Stärke 2952 mg/100g
http://www.fox-time.com/live/rivaldo-feeding/getreidefreies-muesli/inhaltsstoffe-bananen.php (http://www.fox-time.com/live/rivaldo-feeding/getreidefreies-muesli/inhaltsstoffe-bananen.php)

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High fruit + High fat usually creates problems in most people, like candida, blood sugar swings, digestive trouble, diabetes etc.
Why? Any reference?
I eat foods rich in carbs separate from foods rich in fat or protein, meaning I eat them at different meals. Very important to me.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 10, 2011, 03:19:30 pm
I don´t know exactly. Personally, I seem to do fine with up to about 150 g of carbs a day, mainly from fruit (almost exclusively non-acidic fruit).
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That would be about 24 g fructose.
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I eat foods rich in carbs separate from foods rich in fat or protein, meaning I eat them at different meals. Very important to me.

On my raw food diet ten years ago I wouldn't have understand the question here. Today I know that 150 g of carbs from fruit per day is too much for my body. Not because I can't handle or digest it or because I don't like the taste, but because of the already caused damages by fruit. The fructose constantly attacks our joints, skin etc. Google 'fructose glycation'. It's NOT just a theory. Unfortunately it's real and it is sneaky because the physical defects need a long time to become visible (for example in form of alligator skin). Fortunately the damage can be reversed, at least partially. You need some high quality animal protein + raw fats of highest quality. The more saturated, the better, IMO.

What kind of fats do you usually eat? And how long have you been following a raw paleo style diet?

Löwenherz



Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hanna on November 10, 2011, 03:32:27 pm
That would be about 24 g fructose.
http://www.fox-time.com/live/rivaldo-feeding/getreidefreies-muesli/inhaltsstoffe-bananen.php (http://www.fox-time.com/live/rivaldo-feeding/getreidefreies-muesli/inhaltsstoffe-bananen.php)

Oh, I meant 50 g fructose (26 g from saccharose).
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on November 10, 2011, 04:11:02 pm
Google 'fructose glycation'.

Yes, but isn't it a reaction between sugars and proteins, thus the recommendation not to eat fruits (and other sweet foods) and proteins at the same time?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on November 10, 2011, 04:15:28 pm
Thanks . You're really making me crave it.  Does it taste like sea urchin?  Fresh sea urchin tastes soooo good.

I don't know since I only once tasted a sea urchin long ago and didn't like it. I don't remember how it tasted...  I should try it again when I find some!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 10, 2011, 04:39:25 pm
I love raw sea-urchin eggs! Trouble is, the female sea urchins in my neighbourhood are canny survivors who like to hide in tiny inaccessible clefts in rocks.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on November 10, 2011, 05:31:50 pm
Yes, but isn't it a reaction between sugars and proteins, thus the recommendation not to eat fruits (and other sweet foods) and proteins at the same time?

Yes, between sugars (especially fructose) and the proteins of your body! Most vulnerable to this type of damage called glycation seem to be the collagen and elastin protein fibers. Therefore skin and joint problems usually become visible first in individuals who have eaten high amounts of fruit for a long time (beside other side effects like fungal sysmptoms).

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: sabertooth on November 10, 2011, 08:17:59 pm
Sabertooth--is it grassfed?  I might buy some from you.
The beef is grassfed, I am not to sure about the lambs, because the guys brother raises all the sheep and I haven't gotten the chance to ask him yet. But they were just throwing away marrow bones, and fat trimmings by the garbage bag, of some of the best tasting stuff. I am going to try and talk with them about scheduling their slaughter days with me so that I can keep the choice scraps. I just don't know exactly how I would be able to sell it all. I may be able to freeze the excess after slaughter day and take orders and make deliveries. 
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: jessica on November 11, 2011, 03:58:42 am
yum i am eating ground lamb with turkey egg yolk at the moment and was able to nab the lamb leg bone from the butcher.  the marrow is prettty chewy, i really like it
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on November 11, 2011, 04:18:06 am
The beef is grassfed, I am not to sure about the lambs, because the guys brother raises all the sheep and I haven't gotten the chance to ask him yet. But they were just throwing away marrow bones, and fat trimmings by the garbage bag, of some of the best tasting stuff. I am going to try and talk with them about scheduling their slaughter days with me so that I can keep the choice scraps. I just don't know exactly how I would be able to sell it all. I may be able to freeze the excess after slaughter day and take orders and make deliveries. 

I live in SW Virginia, so you could probably ship it to me pretty cheaply.  I'd be willing to pay shipping plus whatever cost you choose. 
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on November 11, 2011, 09:48:33 am
Is it OK to eat any pig part as long as it is grass fed, marrow bones too?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on November 11, 2011, 12:02:33 pm
Is it OK to eat any pig part as long as it is grass fed, marrow bones too?
Pigs don't eat grass.  Nearly all pork is fed a terrible diet, even "organic" and "pastured" pork.  It's not really worth eating , unless you can directly verify its diet.

But yes, any body part is fine.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CitrusHigh on November 11, 2011, 01:10:21 pm
Yeah Adora, Cherimoya isn't kidding, even though I've eaten quite a fair amount of raw pork from conventional sources (before I knew of "pastured" as a concept) and never suffered any ills that I can think of, it would behoove you to find a local source and triple check what the pigs are eating, ideally they are forested pigs, meaning they get to dig around for roots, mast (like acorns) and grubs. Pigs are true omnivores and will eat just about anything they can find, and that is what their diet should reflect, great variety.

You can read up on forested pigs by keying that in to google. Also will write you soon, I promise, just soooo busy, glad to see you are settling in!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 11, 2011, 01:23:06 pm
Get wild boar if you can. That tastes wonderful.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Hanna on November 15, 2011, 02:41:00 am
What kind of fats do you usually eat?
The complete range of "instincto" fats. I love fatty fish, coconut, soft bone marrow (if I can get some), and also brain, wild (sweet) avocados  - if I can get/afford them. However, I also eat quite a few nuts, such as walnuts.

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And how long have you been following a raw paleo style diet?
http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/instinctoanopsology/re-fat-suettallow-and-butter's-place-in-instincto/msg77140/#msg77140 (http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/instinctoanopsology/re-fat-suettallow-and-butter's-place-in-instincto/msg77140/#msg77140)

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Today I know that 150 g of carbs from fruit per day is too much for my body. Not because I can't handle or digest it or because I don't like the taste, but because of the already caused damages by fruit. The fructose constantly attacks our joints, skin etc. Google 'fructose glycation'.
I googled and opened up a new thread about this topic: http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/general-discussion/what-level-of-fructosesugarfruit-consumption-is-safe/new/#new (http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/general-discussion/what-level-of-fructosesugarfruit-consumption-is-safe/new/#new)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Dorothy on November 15, 2011, 04:14:34 am
HIR - the article you posted seems to have proved my point.

One of the biggest increases in intelligence was one student:

"Educated in the state sector, he told me he had struggled in his early years, needing remedial maths tuition, but is now planning a doctorate in computer engineering.

"I think the change came in school I started doing subjects that really interested me, that I was engaged in, then I found it easier and far more interesting."

The changes they say were in IQ and density of parts of the brain - not a change in brain size as far as I could find.

What he was thinking about and challenging his brain with changed. He became interested and engaged and started learning about new things. He was more actively using his brain.

And....... just because the study was done on teenagers doesn't mean it wouldn't be the same for adults. Elderly patients are told to try to learn something completely new and it can reduce dementia, alzheimers and increase memory.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: pubwvj on November 19, 2011, 06:37:26 am
Pigs don't eat grass.  Nearly all pork is fed a terrible diet, even "organic" and "pastured" pork.

No, not true. Pigs do eat grass. We raise pastured pigs - the real deal. Our pigs eat hundreds of thousands of pounds of grass grazing on our 70 acres of pasture during the warm months and then over 100,000 lbs of stored pasture (e.g., hay) during the winter. Pigs definitely and truly DO eat grass.

Additionally, pasture is made up of a lot more than just 'grass'. There is also clover, alfalfa, trifoil and many other forages. Cows, pigs, sheep all eat these things. Then there is the brush, the brambles and those things if the pigs are lucky enough.

Your best bet is to get to know your farmer, or raise it yourself. That is an option.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: sabertooth on January 05, 2012, 09:50:58 am
A 10 month old lamb I killed 12 days ago I already ate the limbs now I will start on the core.
(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk1/sarahab88/Photo3249.jpg)

(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk1/sarahab88/Photo3251.jpg)

(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk1/sarahab88/Photo3254.jpg)

I have been hanging meat in my shed without any refrigeration since late October. I will take the organs and internal fats and freeze what I cant eat the first week, but the rest of it I let hanging in the shed. I had to throw out a little bit of a lamb in October because the weather was to warm and humid that it got a little nasty (even for me). But if the weather is in the 50s or lower with fairly low humidity it seems I can finish off a whole lamb unrefrigerated without any problems. After it air drys and ages a bit it taste real good, and the back fat seems to seal off the inner red meat from excessive molds and microbes.

I just cut off whatever I  want to eat and leave the rest. Its the most simplistic way of eatting I have yet to experience.
(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk1/sarahab88/Photo3258.jpg)

This is aged lamb with fresh brains and a testicle, and a side of coconut butter.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on January 05, 2012, 10:47:26 am
I had to throw out a little bit of a lamb in October because the weather was to warm and humid that it got a little nasty (even for me). But if the weather is in the 50s or lower with fairly low humidity it seems I can finish off a whole lamb unrefrigerated without any problems. After it air drys and ages a bit it taste real good, and the back fat seems to seal off the inner red meat from excessive molds and microbes.

I just cut off whatever I  want to eat and leave the rest. Its the most simplistic way of eatting I have yet to experience.
Yup, that matches my experience, though I haven't had any problems as long as the temps stay below the 80s (but maybe the humidity is lower here), and it's the way my relatives did things for thousands of years, until the 1970s. Luckily, somewhat-Northerly-Ireland rarely gets hot.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on January 05, 2012, 11:31:04 am
   Raw bison chuck roast raw.

    Why do they call it roast? Is that subliminal so you will roast it?

    I can get some pig liver.  I've never tried it plain.  Do you think I should get it?  What is it like?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Aaaaaa on January 05, 2012, 01:38:32 pm
Tuna ceviche and macadamia nuts dipped in raw honey + raw coconut oil + beef suet
...my work lunch leftovers ;-)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Inger on January 05, 2012, 06:09:28 pm
Sabertooth,
how does testicles tastes?
Are they hard to chew, like lungs..?
Are they gross?

Yesterday

Elk organs;
Heart, lungs and kidney. Very tasty. Especially the heart. :-*

(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3649/cds008.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/507/cds008.jpg/)

I cut them up and eat them plain. The lungs (in the middle) I swallow whole as hard to chew.

(http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/39/organe002.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/851/organe002.jpg/)

Elkburgers (dried overnight at body temp.) with coconut oil, wild picked cowberries (defrosted), wild picked chanterelles - dried.

(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/940/cds014.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/cds014.jpg/)

All wild and local except of the coconut oil.
Makes me feel so good. :)

Inger

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: sabertooth on January 05, 2012, 08:30:51 pm
It gets very humid in Kentucky and we are known for the high mold counts, but if the humidity stays low then I usually have no problems ageing the meats even at higher temperatures.

Testicles have a tough outer skin, but are very soft and tender on the interior. They taste salty with a little bit of a bitter after taste.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on January 05, 2012, 08:45:18 pm
I once tried raw testicles. They were raw stag's testicles and very well aged by the time I bought them. I tried eating them but they were so hard my knife couldn't cut through them. Plus, the stench thereof was far worse than any "high-meat" I'd eaten in the past.

I will also admit to a bt of squeamishness as regards eating another animal's private parts. Seems somewhat ghoulish.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on January 06, 2012, 09:57:47 am
Inger
I tried fresh lamb testicles about a month ago. I peeled back 2or 3 layers of tough skin, and the inside was very tender.   -More gland like, as opposed to the more dense feel of organs. More delicate than pancreas. The flavor was not bad, mild, I'd even say I liked it, but I had a strange reaction. My husband is convinced it was psychosomatic, but I'm pretty  sure I had a testosterone rush. I had 3 medium bites. After swallowing the 3rd bite I had the most powerful stop with a bit of queasy. I stopped and a minute later I was comfortable, but I thought I'd wait another day to eat more. Less than an hour later I felt a like I needed to stretch my legs. I went outside and felt like running so I ran, with surprising speed and endurance. When I got home I thought I'd be tired but I was fidgety most of the night. The next day I was wiped out, really drained. It sounds like a rush the way I described it, but I felt that my body rejected it and it burned me out. Not a good energy. Not like coffee, I felt power, but not my type of power, so it felt off. I think this would be great for men, I want to try ovaries. I can get nice fish eggs, but I want to try mammal to see what my reaction is. The testicle I had was butchered that day and never frozen. If you try it, I would go slow and see how you feel.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Aaaaaa on January 06, 2012, 11:39:09 am
How interesting, Adora!
I would love to get some fish eggs...I've had them a few times only, and they were SO delicious!  Seems like those would be beneficial for us girls ;-)! 
But I do want to try testicles as well.  I'm interested to see how I react!  I *think* I can get them from NorthStar Bison ranch...unfortuently my local grass-fed farm doesn't want to go through the trouble of getting whatever permit you need to sell the weird bits because its not profitable enough. :-(
Speaking of bison, I have some kidney, roasts, and marrow bones waiting for me when I get home from work!  My FIRST FRESH RAW meat!!!!!!  I can't wait!!!! :-D
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CitrusHigh on January 06, 2012, 11:45:16 am
haha wow! I love that kind of enthusiasm!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Aaaaaa on January 06, 2012, 01:23:52 pm
haha wow! I love that kind of enthusiasm!
haha thanks ;-)
I just ate some.  and OH MY is it delicious!!!!!!!!  And the marrow (mixed with honey) is like my new favorite dessert...I wish it wasn't so pricey or I'd buy TONS.  Oh well, I guess I'll have to keep buying frozen beef marrow bones and getting the bison marrow as a treat.  But I think I'm spoiled now on the fresh meat...WOW! :-P...   <-------------drooling
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: eveheart on January 06, 2012, 01:43:36 pm
But I do want to try testicles as well.

Testicles are reputed to be good for women's skin. (Warning: AFAIK, they are not halal, so if you have a good meat source that is a halal butcher, don't ask for them there.)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Inger on January 06, 2012, 09:51:54 pm
Adora,
that is really interesting! Thank you for sharing!
Mmmm.. I guess I will not try testicles though. I was thinking, something like that could happend.. ;)
Why is no one eating ovaries, though? I have never heard of that. But sure about tribes eating testicles.
Maybe woman was not allowed to get stronger.. HA. Like "womanly" stronger, the same way that men get "man" energy from certain foods ;).
I dunno, but sure I believe it has something to it, eating certain animals part for certain things.
I do feel my heart strengthens from/after eating elks heart, I do. I kinda feel stronger/more with my heart. :)

I love fish-roe by the way! Always had. We had them as kids occasionally, cooked. In Norway it is common food.
So yummy!

Sile,
so happy you found out how great raw meat tastes!!!
It is yummy, indeed. So much better than cooked! :)
There are also a lot of recipes to try out with raw meat if one likes for variety. But it actually tastes so yummy by itself I mostly eat it plain.
I never had bonemarrow with honey... sounds dangerously good - like one could be seariously addicted.. >D

Inger
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on January 06, 2012, 10:00:25 pm
Testicles are reputed to be good for women's skin. (Warning: AFAIK, they are not halal, so if you have a good meat source that is a halal butcher, don't ask for them there.)

Off-topic:

I'm a man and I'm thinking of a more regular source of testicular nutrition... har har har.  >D
(sorry ladies, the first thing that popped in my mind)

On-topic:

I had 3 squids this evening.

Later I had some durian.

And much later lemon with honey in water juice.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Aaaaaa on January 07, 2012, 02:50:49 am
Mmmm squids!  I love them!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on January 07, 2012, 08:45:18 pm
A typical day of my raw paleo diet:

breakfast: never ever
lunch: 3 bananas + a big pot of fresh raw coconut milk
in the afternoon: one pound of raw tuna
dinner: green salad

I usually eat 18 hours per day absolutely nothing.

Raw coconut fat + white meat works much better for me than animal fat + red meat.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: van on January 08, 2012, 03:53:22 am
Lowenherz are you able to get the very dark coconuts with the really fatty meat, or the light tan ones with the less fattier meat?  Doesn't seem to be a lot of fat in the tan ones.   And I'm not talking about the white ones they sell.   And how are you expressing the fat out of the meat?   thanks
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on January 09, 2012, 06:58:26 am
The other night I had 8 lambs tongues. well 7 ish and the rest went to the pooch.

perhaps not a common catch in nature, but hey...what the heck.  :-*



I also had a buffalo spleen recently.  Thats a really strange organ to eat strait up separately  (not in a mix).
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Aaaaaa on January 09, 2012, 07:21:48 am
Today I tried bison kidney.  It has an interesting taste, that I can't quite put my finger on to describe.  Not sure if I like it yet.  But it was fine mixed in with the pieces of bison roast.  But the little chunk of fat that was along the middle is super yummy! :-P
I also had a bunch of coconut cream yesterday night, that made me feel AWFUL.  Lets just say it went riiiight through me, and made me nauseous.  I had a sneaking suspicion that coconuts (or at least the imported, probably dipped in something nasty ones we get in WI) don't quite agree with me, and I think it is true unfortunetly. 
I am having the toughest time finding a good, affordable source of fat.  The bison marrow bones are way too expensive for me to get enough (I ate 2 lbs of them in 2 days, no problem!), I can get beef marrow bones but they are frozen and sometimes have a knuckle in the pack with them, coconut cream is a no-go now, obviously, and I'm not sure about dairy.  I REALLY wish I could get goat milk to make kefir, because I always seemed to do fine with goat dairy, but so far no luck anywhere around here.  I can get Jersey cow milk for $6 per gallon...so I might try making butter out of that...I get about 1lb of butter from 1 gallon of milk, so its less than the bison marrow at least!!! :-P
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on January 09, 2012, 08:03:52 am
I wish I could eat ovaries too. Has anybody tried them?

My csa is also a dairy, so they don't butcher girls. And I haven't seen any pigs or sheep left, for this year, but next summer I will have lots. And I know Nstar bison has them sometimes but you need to call, I don't need anything else from them so I would have to pay the shipping fee for just 1 set of ovaries. $$$$ Maybe if somebody on the site would like to add them to there next order then report we could all have the benefit of the info.
     I don't notice fish eggs have an effect on my hormones, but they have always from a freezer, love them
     I've been enjoying plain beef,  keifer cheese, suet, and marrow. I had tried lots of new stuff like , wild duck and goose, and adrenals which felt good to me but I only took a small bite each time with surrounding fat, also I tried kidney again. I had liver and heart which I like but I over did the liver and it was all very strong before I got this fresh cut. It feels so comforting to eat mouth watering muscle roast.
I HATE KIDNEY. I have tried so hard to like it. I have tried it raw, cooked (multiple ways), frozen, fresh (that is best the day it was taken from the animal, I have tried cow, lamb, and pig... and I have tried high kidney, I've tried them all lots of times, but nothing is tolerable. I want so bad to like it b/c my mind says that it's good for me and eventually I will like it, but not yet. Does anybody have any recipe ideas? Maybe if I mix it with lots of sauce. I haven't tried soaking it in milk, but that's next.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on January 10, 2012, 05:16:24 am
... ovaries... Has anybody tried them?

... And I know Nstar bison has them sometimes but you need to call, I don't need anything else from them so I would have to pay the shipping fee for just 1 set of ovaries. ...
     ...
     ... goose, and adrenals which felt good to me but I only took a small bite each time with surrounding fat, also I tried kidney again. ...
I HATE KIDNEY. I have tried so hard to like it. I have tried it raw, cooked (multiple ways), frozen, fresh (that is best the day it was taken from the animal, I have tried cow, lamb, and pig... and I have tried high kidney, I've tried them all lots of times, but nothing is tolerable. I want so bad to like it b/c my mind says that it's good for me and eventually I will like it, but not yet. Does anybody have any recipe ideas? Maybe if I mix it with lots of sauce. I haven't tried soaking it in milk, but that's next.

    I have heard soaking in milk helps with kidneys. I think WAPF people ferment everything including fermenting meats in whey as a starter medium maybe?  How long did you ferment the kidneys? How did you do it? I can't stand them unless they're wet fermented in a cold jar for weeks, and then they not only taste tolerable but also have very visible good effect on my body.

    I have eaten ovary a few times.  No matter how I've eaten it (and it was always raw and fresh) it never gave me any hint of a bad reaction. I think it's good for me.

    I've tried testicle. It tasted gross even though grassfed fresh etc. I won't bother eating it again. One of my cats threw up from it and she doesn't trust much food from me because of it.

    Today I drank milk that's been sitting in a warm room for a week. It's like thick rich creamy slightly tart tasty yogurt.

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Wattlebird on January 10, 2012, 12:05:09 pm
Limpets.
Unfortunately no sea urchin today though.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: bharminder on January 10, 2012, 01:40:26 pm
I wish I could eat ovaries too. Has anybody tried them?

My csa is also a dairy, so they don't butcher girls. And I haven't seen any pigs or sheep left, for this year, but next summer I will have lots. And I know Nstar bison has them sometimes but you need to call, I don't need anything else from them so I would have to pay the shipping fee for just 1 set of ovaries. $$$$ Maybe if somebody on the site would like to add them to there next order then report we could all have the benefit of the info.
     I don't notice fish eggs have an effect on my hormones, but they have always from a freezer, love them
     I've been enjoying plain beef,  keifer cheese, suet, and marrow. I had tried lots of new stuff like , wild duck and goose, and adrenals which felt good to me but I only took a small bite each time with surrounding fat, also I tried kidney again. I had liver and heart which I like but I over did the liver and it was all very strong before I got this fresh cut. It feels so comforting to eat mouth watering muscle roast.
I HATE KIDNEY. I have tried so hard to like it. I have tried it raw, cooked (multiple ways), frozen, fresh (that is best the day it was taken from the animal, I have tried cow, lamb, and pig... and I have tried high kidney, I've tried them all lots of times, but nothing is tolerable. I want so bad to like it b/c my mind says that it's good for me and eventually I will like it, but not yet. Does anybody have any recipe ideas? Maybe if I mix it with lots of sauce. I haven't tried soaking it in milk, but that's next.

hi, the way I like to eat kidneys is that I blend it with r. milk and make a smoothie. Sometimes i will sweeten it a little with dates. Usually room temperature
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on January 10, 2012, 07:45:30 pm
Raw ripe jack fruit.

Coconut juice and coconut meat.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on January 12, 2012, 02:33:54 am
Lowenherz are you able to get the very dark coconuts with the really fatty meat, or the light tan ones with the less fattier meat?  Doesn't seem to be a lot of fat in the tan ones.   And I'm not talking about the white ones they sell.   And how are you expressing the fat out of the meat?   thanks

Young coconuts of all kinds are useless because their fat content is very low. If I can't get fresh fully ripe high quality coconuts (which is often the case in Germany, unfortunately) I use prefrozen meat from ripe coconuts.

I make coconut milk with a blender and sieve. It's quick and easy. A good ratio is 1:1, for example 200ml water and 200g coconut meat.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: van on January 12, 2012, 04:46:23 am
Ah,  I see your post here as regards the addition of water,  thanks
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on January 15, 2012, 12:36:04 am
Coconut juice and coconut meat.

Hi GS,

I guess you don't eat the hard meat from mature coconuts, right?

Which types do you prefer? The super soft jelly type meat or the more riper ones?

I have seen that there are many different types of coconuts. In Thailand they are much better than in Sri Lanka or Malaysia, for example. I have never eaten young coconuts from the Philippines so far. Aa far as I know your country is the largest producer of coconuts on this planet. I really envy you.

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Wattlebird on January 15, 2012, 06:19:03 am
cauliflower
turban snails
almonds
plums
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on January 18, 2012, 05:50:10 am
RawZi
     By fermented Kidney I meant high, but next time I will make 2 batches, one with raw milk and one in Whey, which I will continue to rinse and take a small bite each day until I like it or toss it. Thanks for the suggestions. It  just seems strong. My high duck got an ammonia taste not like urine but, I also had a hard time with it. I'm not forcing the kidney, b/c I'm thinking maybe the ammonia/urea is not well tolerated.
Thanks for the tips
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on January 25, 2012, 12:27:22 pm
I've been eating raw paleo diet foods designed for my kids designed to meet their tastes and needs for healing.

This morning:
- fresh durian fruit.
- raw pineapple + raw egg smoothies (taste like custard stuff... Aajonus recipe for dermatitis / eczema)

This noon:
Ceviche of:
- Tanguige fish
- Native Filipino tomatoes (must investigate this)
- red onions
- lemon
- freshly squeezed coconut milk

+

sea weeds... the type that looks like green bubbles.
we call them "lato"

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: KD on January 25, 2012, 12:38:56 pm
meat their tastes

:)

---
shellfish, duck eggs, lambs tongues, organ mixes in frequency of late. Probably will be back on cow stuff in a few days after ~ 3 months no dairy.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now? - live shrimp
Post by: goodsamaritan on January 31, 2012, 08:48:02 am
My eldest boy and I shared in some live shrimp this morning.
I gave him an raw egg yolk liver flush as well.

In this picture is my 2nd boy.  He just played with the live shrimp, put them in a bowl of water to see them swim.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on February 15, 2012, 02:23:16 pm
    I ate raw fish tonight, tuna, uni, north red clam (the clam dipped in hot water) etc. I also ate avocado and un-dyed ginger with it.

By fermented Kidney I meant high, but next time I will make 2 batches, one with raw milk and one in Whey, which I will continue to rinse and take a small bite each day until I like it or toss it. Thanks for the suggestions. It  just seems strong. My high duck got an ammonia taste not like urine but, I also had a hard time with it. I'm not forcing the kidney, b/c I'm thinking maybe the ammonia/urea is not well tolerated.
Thanks for the tips

    When I said wet ferment, the way I wrote it I see can be misunderstood. By wet I meant in a jar that is closed most of the time, as I see many people on the raw paleo forum let meat sit uncovered or hang uncovered to get dry, and call it by the same high meat term, even though now that I rethink again, I don't want to call theirs high meat.  Maybe I should call the kidneys I told you about, by the term, fermented. What I'm saying is that although one may keep kidneys in milk or whey, I think that is to keep it from breaking down.  To just give it a quick soak in milk is what I meant.  I've never fermented in whey, I've just made saltless vegetable sour krauts, and ate and drank their liquids.  I tried whey in cooking decades ago.  Vegetable wheys from making cheeses of seed and nut sprout, I threw the whey on the earth. If there was any misunderstanding, I hope I'm clearer now. I'm sleepy though, so I may fix this later.
Title: Eating raw organs from elk, video
Post by: Inger on February 21, 2012, 08:47:45 pm
I did a video of me eating organs from elk. Liver, lungs, heart and kidney.
They really are great!
It is in German, sorry. My German is not that great either. -[ But I guess in Norwegian or Finnish few would understand.
It turned out quite strange, but maybe it still can help newbies who have not eaten raw organs before.

http://youtu.be/asRh-gRadq0 (http://youtu.be/asRh-gRadq0)

Inger
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on February 21, 2012, 09:10:56 pm
I did a video me eating organs from elk. Liver, lungs, heart and kidney.
..
It is in German, sorry. My German is not that great too. -[ But I guess in Norwegian or Finnish few would understand.
Inger

Wow, nice video!

And your German sounds really wonderful, very similar to the "french German"..   ;)

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on February 21, 2012, 09:22:10 pm
I did a video of me eating organs from elk. Liver, lungs, heart and kidney.
They really are great!
It is in German, sorry. My German is not that great either. -[ But I guess in Norwegian or Finnish few would understand.
It turned out quite strange, but maybe it still can help newbies who have not eaten raw organs before.

http://youtu.be/asRh-gRadq0 (http://youtu.be/asRh-gRadq0)

Inger


Oh my gosh!  Everything about you in that video is so cute... so feminine!
I have no idea what you were saying there for 10 minutes... but you look like a star!
And that voice.... smile smile smile.

Can I re-upload this same video so I can add English notes? 

Inger isst Innereien vom Elch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asRh-gRadq0#)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Inger on February 21, 2012, 09:30:15 pm
GS, sure just do with it whatever you like!

Thank for the nice comments Löwenherz and GS :-*. I am so not a professional moviemaker but maybe it is okay..

Inger

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: wodgina on February 21, 2012, 10:08:22 pm
Nice vid.

Are they GS's meat scissors?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on February 21, 2012, 10:22:22 pm
Very interesting. I find your German fine.I hope the other rawpalaeodiet language forums will eventually get going.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: papangue on February 21, 2012, 10:26:53 pm
not relevant but you are so beautiful inger
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on February 22, 2012, 12:34:16 am
I love it too Inger. It would be nice to have the info in English too.
    I love beauty. A WOMAN SHOULD KNOW AND BE PROUD. All this humble selfless stuff is irritating. Your beauty is your health, you look healthy, whole, and sexy. It shines out of you. It is pleasant to behold. You look as if you are meant to be this way. To be less would insult your birthright/gift. If you are uncomfortable with what I have said, it sadly is common, and make us all less. I sincerely hope you have your own desire to face any "disease" and find comfort in truth. I am growing in this with you. To put a picture out to the world also invites criticism of the jealous and cruel, soak up the good, none of it really matters anyway. We aren't special, good, or beautiful because of what other think of us, or vice versa. 
Your sister in-raw
Adora
PS I'll be eating organs this week too, but all pig, I pick them up Thursday. They are eating grain and scraps, but the farm they live on has healthy practices. The animals are all beautiful. There isn't much else for them to eat this time of year. I hope it is healthy for me. My head can do funny things. I still like peperoni with raw cheese, I confess. But , I really don't like cooked organ meat at all. Much better raw.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: superja on February 22, 2012, 03:58:16 am
Awesome vid Inger :)


Having some lamb chops right now. I don't do lamb a lot but they had a ton today at the butcher and it looked absolutely gorgeous.

I mystify my roommate because I never eat meat in front of her, but she keeps seeing these fatty cuts ending up in the fridge and then disappearing. "How are you losing weight eating all this fat?"
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Inger on February 22, 2012, 04:20:24 am
Nice vid.

Are they GS's meat scissors?

HA. I know GS's use scissors too.. ;D They are great for busy eating. So easy!
Unfortunately I was not at GS's house.. >D

Inger
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on February 22, 2012, 04:23:01 am

I mystify my roommate because I never eat meat in front of her, but she keeps seeing these fatty cuts ending up in the fridge and then disappearing. "How are you losing weight eating all this fat?"

ROFL
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on February 22, 2012, 04:50:09 am
Finland is the country where there are the prettiest girls and raw paleo women stay pretty, so you have both conditions to be beautiful and remain so… ;)

Great video. You are eating lung, arent’you? How does it smell and taste? Which organ do you prefer?

I never ate elk, you’re lucky! I’ve been eating a road killed badger for the last 3 days (with the help of a knife, not scissors!). It’s excellent, one of the best meat I ever ate - perhaps the best, especially the fat. But it’s a male and the smell was very strong, even repelling when fresh and I could initially only eat the liver. Finally, 2 or 3 weeks after being skinned and hung in the basement, it smells fine and extremely attracting to me.

I mystify my roommate because I never eat meat in front of her, but she keeps seeing these fatty cuts ending up in the fridge and then disappearing. "How are you losing weight eating all this fat?"
Tell her the truth: ‘the more I eat, the faster I lose weight!’ ;)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Inger on February 22, 2012, 04:54:57 am
@ TD,
I have so little practice speaking German here, it is cruel! I always forget the words when I need them.. -[ even if I do understand everything.

@ Nicolas,
oh thank you so much! :)

@ Adora,
 you make me blush.. thank you for your nice words.
But I guess it is the food Adora, I do.
You want to know how I looked at 17 years old? Here;

(http://i41.tinypic.com/4g6eyx.jpg)

I was swollen, having a lot of allergies. I feel so much better now at 35. I guess wild food is something special, I do.
They give life. They makes you alive. That is the way it feels to me at least. ;)
I do not eat only wild, but always when I can I do. I am not eating 100% raw right now. I do make some fishbroth selfmade from wildcaught fresh fish.
I feel it does me good. I would not cook organs ever, like you. They are medicine to me, indeed.

Adora I do not know if pigs organs are that great. I never had them though.. but I do not eat pig. Seldom boar.
Can't you get lambs organs or beef or goat or such? I bet they would be better!

If you like pepperoni with cheese, maybe you would like these raw fishbuns I made today?
They turned out spicy and hot. ;)

I just mixed raw wildcaught cod (a few days prefrozen) with,

fresh organic ginger
fresh organic chili
fresh marjoram
fresh organic leek
wild raw honey
organic white wine vinegar
sea salt
raw organic butter

(http://i43.tinypic.com/vo2715.jpg) .. later.. (http://i43.tinypic.com/24zwv4l.jpg)

I served them with wild, selfpicked soaked mushrooms.
It was so delicious! I made hubby some fishbuns too but cooked, at the same time.

Adora, you will get healthy I know! It just takes some time.
You should try the icebaths Adora! I bet they would help your diabetes! You just have to start carefully, little by little.
Not like me. I got a cold I still have it, cause I did naked snowbaths.. too long and too many. -X
I just lay there in the snow and later I was freezing.. for an hour.. but I loved it and then I got the cold. Ha.

Your sister in-raw from the north :-*


Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: raw-al on February 22, 2012, 04:59:24 am
@ TD,
I have so little practice speaking German here, it is cruel! I always forget the words when I need them.. -[ even if I do understand everything.

@ Nicolas,
oh thank you so much! :)

@ Adora,
 you make me blush.. thank you for your nice words.
But I guess it is the food Adora, I do.
You want to know how I looked at 17 years old? Here;

(http://i41.tinypic.com/4g6eyx.jpg)

I was swollen, having a lot of allergies. I feel so much better now at 35. I guess wild food is something special, I do.
They give life. They makes you alive. That is the way it feels to me at least. ;)
I do not eat only wild, but always when I can I do. I am not eating 100% raw right now. I do make some fishbroth selfmade from wildcaught fresh fish.
I feel it does me good. I would not cook organs ever, like you. They are medicine to me, indeed.

Adora I do not know if pigs organs are that great. I never had them though.. but I do not eat pig. Seldom boar.
Can't you get lambs organs or beef or goat or such? I bet they would be better!

If you like pepperoni with cheese, maybe you would like these raw fishbuns I made today?
They turned out spicy and hot. ;)

I just mixed raw wildcaught cod (a few days prefrozen) with,

fresh organic ginger
fresh organic chili
fresh marjoram
fresh organic leek
wild raw honey
organic white wine vinegar
sea salt
raw organic butter

(http://i43.tinypic.com/vo2715.jpg) .. later.. (http://i43.tinypic.com/24zwv4l.jpg)

I served them with wild, selfpicked soaked mushrooms.
It was so delicious! I made hubby some fishbuns too but cooked, at the same time.

Adora, you will get healthy I know! It just takes some time.
You should try the icebaths Adora! I bet they wild help your diabetes! You just have to start carefully, little by little.
Not like me. I got a cold I still have it, cause I did naked snowbaths.. too long and too many. -X
I just lay there in the snow and later I was freezing.. for an hour.. but I loved it and then I got the cold. Ha.

Your sister in-raw from the north :-*




That can't be a picture of you!  Are you serious!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Inger on February 22, 2012, 05:14:43 am
Iguana,
I thought the prettiest girls were in France... ;)

Badger...???! OMG I have never tried that! If I would be near by I would come and try for sure!

Lung smells not much. A little salty maybe and bloody? Very minor scent.
It tastes (I tell this in the Vid too) a little salty, bloody.. very mild. First I did not liked them much, but now I think they are nice!
First time I tried lungs I closed my nose with my fingers.. >D I guess I was freaked out because the consistency was weird.

The best I might like the heart...
dunno but it has something almost mystical to me, I cannot explain that but it makes me feel so great.. So happy.
I love the liver too! Kidneys are fun, I do not eat much of them but in small amounts they tastes great!

Oh.. in the video I just talk a lot.. nothing important really.  ;D I just tell what the organs are what I am eating.
And that I like them.. ;)

@ raw-al
It is me, I promise. I weigh about 15 pounds more in that old picture.

Inger
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: raw-al on February 22, 2012, 05:23:15 am
Well in that case you are the poster girl for the raw paleo diet.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: wodgina on February 22, 2012, 06:14:11 am
wow what a difference.

You're not bloated now and seem so femine/fun.  To be feminine, all you have to be is fun/girly/and a little bit vulnerable. Very attractive qualities.

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: superja on February 22, 2012, 08:49:58 am
PS I'll be eating organs this week too, but all pig, I pick them up Thursday. They are eating grain and scraps, but the farm they live on has healthy practices. The animals are all beautiful. There isn't much else for them to eat this time of year. I hope it is healthy for me. My head can do funny things. I still like peperoni with raw cheese, I confess. But , I really don't like cooked organ meat at all. Much better raw.

I would worry less about what the pigs are eating than other animals, pigs naturally having a pretty varied diet.

For things like cows though, who should be grazing on grass, that would be an issue.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on February 22, 2012, 12:18:48 pm
I would worry less about what the pigs are eating than other animals, pigs naturally having a pretty varied diet.

For things like cows though, who should be grazing on grass, that would be an issue.


Yeah, but farmers will feed even "naturally-raised" pigs some awful stuff.  I just don't trust pork, unless I've been to the farm myself.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Aaaaaa on February 22, 2012, 02:01:36 pm
Inger!!  You are beautiful!  I too would love to hear what you are saying in English--the only other language I understand a little is Spanish...no German, unfortunately.
How do you make the fish broth?  What kind of fish do you use?
Do you get your meat and organs fresh, or frozen?
I can't believe that old picture is you!  Although...now that I think about it...I bet some old pictures of me would have just as big of a difference...I should dig up some old pictures and compare!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: zaidi on February 23, 2012, 01:03:43 am
Oh my gosh!  Everything about you in that video is so cute... so feminine!
I have no idea what you were saying there for 10 minutes... but you look like a star!
And that voice.... smile smile smile.

Can I re-upload this same video so I can add English notes? 

Inger isst Innereien vom Elch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asRh-gRadq0#)

GS,

I want to report to you how a "Non Paleo" person reacted to this Video. 

He is one of my best friend and belongs to India. His family follows Hindu Religion (i.e. absolutely no meat of any kind).

I never imagined that he would ever start paleo diet, but only wished that he understands why I am eating Paleo.  Any how, he was entirely not impressed with all of my hours long talk and arguments and all the Videos that I showed him.

But then came this "earlier" Photo & "recent" video.

This was the first time it seemed that he took Paleo seriously.

Two of his comments were important and want to share it with Paleo community:

He said, " If you people could produce such Videos, where especially Ladies are eating raw food with good manners .... and also this "Previous" & "Recent" Photos (of both men and women), then this is very convincing stuff. "

He further said: " You showed me earlier Videos of a man who was eating raw meat & fish and lever  .... and I felt that somewhat disgusting and thought them of having that much of an extremist mad mind, but I don't get this feeling while watching this Video. I could not imagine such a lady to be indulging in non-sensible thing and thus I have to take it seriously".


In light of this reaction from a Non Paleo person, I would like to suggest:


1. Ask this lady  (and also to our other Girls + Dorothy especially) to help the community in making a few Professional Level Videos.
There is a total shortage of Professional Level Videos.
The immature Videos are not attractive but some what repulsive ... and main reason is they mainly belong to men who are eating raw.

I totally agree with the observation of my non paleo friend that raw eating Videos should be done by Ladies, and that too not looking "wild", but eating with good manners.


2. We already have a section for "Previous" & "Recent" photos.
Now we have to transfer and gather these Photos into one Video along with short summary/story.


In short, we need 2-3 professional Videos (which should be released in name of  "RawPaleoForum").

As Moderator, it is better you plan it, and plan it perfectly.

(By the way, it was your Videos of raw meat & fish & Lever with onions which I showed to my friend. Please don't mind it, your Videos were a source of great Encouragement for me, but for my "non paleo" friend they were not encouraging and attractive, but repulsive )
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on February 23, 2012, 06:59:50 am
I agree with the guy. I much prefer Inger's photos and video to the images of people eating with their mouths open and having meat hanging from their mouths and such, and it's not just because Inger is prettier and charismatic. Inger's images are more tastefully done and mature, and even her images of foods are more attractive. And I agree with the guy that Inger would probably do the best job of creating the video. She is multi-talented: a movie star, a photographer/videographer and a producer-director.

And I'm also glad that Dorothy is here to help bring some additional feminine sense and sensibility to this forum. When we boys are left to our own devices, we tend to devolve.  >D
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on February 23, 2012, 07:28:03 am
GS is the admin/owner of our site, not just a mere Global Moderator. I also think that his videos are most  fascinating and not off-putting at all. It really helps that GS's videos include segments in which his young children appear. They are so sweet, and conjure up a wholesome image of a natural, raw-eating family, whereas cooked-food-eaters like to wrongly portray us as being solely loners who eat raw meats and are somehow "lucky"   l)  not to get food-poisoning etc.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on February 23, 2012, 07:33:50 am
It really helps that GS's videos include segments in which his young children appear. They are so sweet, and conjure up a wholesome image of a natural, raw-eating family, whereas cooked-food-eaters like to wrongly portray us as being solely loners who eat raw meats and are somehow "lucky"   l)  not to get food-poisoning etc.
Sure, I like that aspect. I don't think Zaidi was trying to imply that there's nothing good at all in GS's videos/images or anyone else's (nor was I) and I thought Zaidi was rather polite about it.

Heck, if it'll help, I freely admit that any videos or images of me and what and how I eat would be far less appealing than Inger's videos/images. It seems like Zaidi is wisely thinking in terms of what will be most attractive and appealing to the greatest number of people who might consider raw Paleo (assuming we want to attract more people, of course).
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on February 23, 2012, 12:34:31 pm
My butcher says the freezer is full and they will not slaughter a pig until Wed. He is going to let me try fresh blood. I am so excited. It will probably be gross - because it is new.
     I am a big vampire fan so warm fresh blood is an experience I'm not about to pass up. In the fantasy books it is a rich, velvet  wine of power. Mostly they speak of the human variety - GROSS - animals are more pure and true - those vampire are a little backwards. It could be fun to make a little video of that. I have a big hand blown wine glass I never use. I could get dressed up in vamp clothes. This sounds fun. It is pretty at the farm too. If it is fun I'll try it, but in reality it is probably a lot to pull off. I've never made a you tube video so I'd love tips.
      Inger I'm going to try your fish cake recipe with chicken. No honey, but I might add a tiny bit of fruit, lemon chicken, orange? I used to make marinade for the grill with strawberries and jalapenos.
      I had a tender slice of beef that I prepared for my daughter last night. She said, "mom, I'm craving warm bloody red meat, will you make me something good?" I was thrilled. I warmed a blend of olive and coconut oil in cast iron. Then, I rubbed salt pepper and dried garlic into the beef and turned it over and over in the warm oil. The smell was amazing. It didn't alter the texture of the meat the way heat usually does. She loved it. I chiseled a tiny piece. Yummy!
       I ate chocolate crap 3 times this week. Each time swearing I wouldn't ever do it again. My life feels as unstable as my broken knee. Tomorrow is a new day.
      I think it is amazing how much better you look Inger. RAVF is amazing but I think it is only part of the puzzle. I certainly haven't figured it out yet, but I'm not giving up yet either.
      In my healthiest swings and with nice lighting I still look pretty good at 40 I'll try to make a nice video when everything is budding out in the world. I will go for beautiful and primal, if I can capture that. Nothing professional though - I have no experience, if it stinks we still have lovely Inger and I like GS's videos too.
      I will eat heart because that is my favorite too. I loved handling the fresh deer heart this fall. It belonged to a younger doe. Majick indeed. Dense with power and tender with radiant life, the heart of that beautiful doe is still with me when I move through the forest I feel her heart sing with mine.
     I imagine her within me tr aped in the walls of the hospital. Probably the trap is just in my minds limits, but trapped just the same. I won't be making any beautiful videos there.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on February 23, 2012, 12:35:38 pm
whereas cooked-food-eaters like to wrongly portray us as being solely loners...

Which is ridiculous.  My social confidence only grows over time, whereas I had so much social anxiety on 8/1/1 that I really couldn't be around people at all.

A big part of my social confidence is knowing that I have such precise control over my health, and know exactly what to eat to heal myself.  It makes me very confident.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on February 23, 2012, 12:37:25 pm

       I ate chocolate crap 3 times this week. Each time swearing I wouldn't ever do it again.

Eat more fat.  It curbs cravings.  Also, I find that mineral supplements help, as well.  You might just be craving the magnesium.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on February 23, 2012, 12:51:09 pm
It might be minerals I have been craving minerals and salt. I always eat bunches of fat. My head has been weird. I've been upset a long time about my knee. But I'll try more minerals. I do want them. Thanks
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: zaidi on February 23, 2012, 04:02:54 pm
GS is the admin/owner of our site, not just a mere Global Moderator. I also think that his videos are most  fascinating and not off-putting at all. It really helps that GS's videos include segments in which his young children appear. They are so sweet, and conjure up a wholesome image of a natural, raw-eating family, whereas cooked-food-eaters like to wrongly portray us as being solely loners who eat raw meats and are somehow "lucky"   l)  not to get food-poisoning etc.

Difference between Thinking of "Paleo" VS "Non Paleo" person

I think I didn't make my point clear enough and there is still misunderstanding.

I wrote:

Quote
(By the way, it was your Videos of raw meat & fish & Lever with onions which I showed to my friend. Please don't mind it, your Videos were a source of great Encouragement for me, but for my "non paleo" friend they were not encouraging and attractive, but repulsive )

I was convinced with paleo.

I searched and found many videos of people eating RAW,  but the  GS's Videos were the BEST paleo videos for me personally, the best encouraging videos for me, my favorite ones, they were on the top and I watched them again and again to get inspiration. ( I remember that I read Aajonus book first about RAW meat, then I read Geof at allexpert.com, but I took my first bite of raw fish only after watching the video of GS .... and I am really thankful to GS for this).

Therefore, I showed them to my non paleo friend too.

I am only trying to tell the LESSON that I learnt from my experiment  i.e. the difference in Thinking of "Paleo" vs "Non Paleo" person.  For one, it was source of inspiration ... but for 2nd it was not.

Therefore, I have presented the facts here too honestly. I hope GS don't mind it (please confirm).

Regards.

PS:

I found Children's Video of GS very very pleasant. Firstly, kids are really sweat and secondly, it was encouraging too for me to see children eating raw meat. 

I didn't ask my non paleo friend about his remarks on kid's video (perhaps I have not shown it to him up till now).

But we all know human nature is very difficult. If they have negative concept of paleo and want to only criticize, then they will find the angles to do it. They would simply call it bad parenting etc.

We could not make every one happy. Family Videos are very refreshing and we should keep on making them and don't have to bother much about OTHERs.  But at same time, we have to be diplomatic enough too to show them FIRST those things as introduction, which could really inspire them without getting repulsive.

Summary:

1. There should be two sets of Videos. One directed towards Non-Paleo people as introduction .... and 2nd set for Paleo people for more inspiration.

2. And we have to accept the fact that we lack Professional Videos in both these fields at moment.

3. All these Videos should be hosted directly at site  www.rawpaleodiet.com (http://www.rawpaleodiet.com)  (and not at  forum).

4. Also the most important thing is this that this post  by Tylor Durden (i.e. you)  "Advice For Newbies Wishing To Slowly Ease Into A Raw-Animal-Food Diet" ............. this should be hosted as separate Article at main website  www.rawpaleodiet.com (http://www.rawpaleodiet.com)  and should get permanent place in Top Menu or Side Menu.

Geof has to guide all the newbies time and again towards this thread.


5. In fact, this whole section of "Important Info for Newbies" should be hosted as Articles at the main website.

6. We are at moment more a "Discussion Forum based" site.  We better make our main Website more active and should provide important stuff there.

7. "Raw Paleo collaborative book" should be completed and posted on Main Website.
Geof's  site at allexpert.com should be presented as "Wrapper" on our main website.
Yahoo group should be presented as "Wrapper" on our main website.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Inger on February 23, 2012, 06:07:59 pm
OMG. I am a little overwhelmed by the responses to my video. It was a very spontaneous one and far from perfect.
I did not expect this. But, nothing could make me more happy, then if it could be to help for someone! Indeed.
Zaidi, it made me so happy reading your post! Thank you so much for sharing about your friend.
I will make more videos I promise.
It is true most (or all?) raw meat eating videos are from men AFAIK so it is time for us women to do some too. ;)
And.. while a woman is mostly the "cooker" it is natural she might give a more appetizing view to it. :)

Inger
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: zaidi on February 23, 2012, 10:07:37 pm
OMG. I am a little overwhelmed by the responses to my video. It was a very spontaneous one and far from perfect.
I did not expect this. But, nothing could make me more happy, then if it could be to help for someone! Indeed.

Inger

God bless you lady.

Humanity does indeed need help.

A small story, which inspires me.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Good_Samaritan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Good_Samaritan)

Parable of the Good Samaritan

The parable of the Good Samaritan is a parable told by Jesus and is mentioned in only one of the Canonical gospels. According to the Gospel of Luke (10:25-37) a traveller (who may or may not be Jewish) is beaten, robbed, and left half dead along the road. First a priest and then a Levite come by, but both avoid the man. Finally, a Samaritan comes by. Samaritans and Jews generally despised each other, but the Samaritan helps the injured man.


Came recently to this story after googling for the meaning of name of our dear Admin "GS".
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CitrusHigh on February 24, 2012, 03:43:48 am
Wow inger, you are radiant that is for sure!

Here's what I'm eating today, wild salmon roe and our own free range, organic, soy-free eggs, laid last night.

I realize that my eating salmon roe is kind of ironic considering what I've said about the sustainability of seafood but that is a new belief of mine, arrived at after I bought 10 lbs of roe this summer for $6usd/lb. Got to use it up! Apparently fish eggs are great sources of K2 I learned recently along with vitamin D and lots of other goodies. These eggs, are gorgeous even just to look at with their ruby red translucent shimmer. These are uncured, and they arrived to me in their skeins, all I do is pull them out with my fingers and pop them in my mouth! They're also delcious with creme fraiche!

Cheers!

PS sorry my cam isn't clearer, it's my iphone and it's more than a bit stubborn!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: superja on February 24, 2012, 04:52:41 am

Let'sCopOut- That looks absolutely beautiful.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Inger on February 24, 2012, 08:17:47 pm
Let's cop out,
I love your food! So beautiful colors!
You are so happy to get unprepaire roe. I can only get prefrozen and salted here..
I still eat it sometimes cause I love it.. ;)

So,
I did another video from eating my lunch today. This time in english.
Sorry about my english - it is so not good.
I am eating grassfed beef and fat, no fancy recipes. I will make recipe-vidos too when I have the time.

 Capture 20120224 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI0mj367T7E#)

Inger
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: zaidi on February 24, 2012, 10:20:16 pm

So,
I did another video from eating my lunch today. This time in english.
Sorry about my english - it is so not good.
I am eating grassfed beef and fat, no fancy recipes. I will make recipe-vidos too when I have the time.

Inger

raw grassfed meat for lunch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI0mj367T7E#)

Great.

Simple but very effective & yummy.

Once again a very valuable Video from my point of view. 

I liked it.

I am not a native English Speaker, therefore I could not judge it 100%. But still my feedback is as following:


1. I felt that you were looking good and cute speaking English (the very same feeling I got while hearing your German Video).

2. Your English is perfectly sufficient, as you are able to convey your message with Expressions (like Yummy expression.... and your Eyes also speaking Universal Language and telling us it was yummy).

 





Wow inger, you are radiant that is for sure!

Here's what I'm eating today, wild salmon roe and our own free range, organic, soy-free eggs, laid last night.

I realize that my eating salmon roe is kind of ironic considering what I've said about the sustainability of seafood but that is a new belief of mine, arrived at after I bought 10 lbs of roe this summer for $6usd/lb. Got to use it up! Apparently fish eggs are great sources of K2 I learned recently along with vitamin D and lots of other goodies. These eggs, are gorgeous even just to look at with their ruby red translucent shimmer. These are uncured, and they arrived to me in their skeins, all I do is pull them out with my fingers and pop them in my mouth! They're also delcious with creme fraiche!

(http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=356.0;attach=7379;image)

Cheers!

PS sorry my cam isn't clearer, it's my iphone and it's more than a bit stubborn!


Let'sCopout:

This is one of the delicious raw dish and great idea for newbies.

Your cam is ok here .... but please also look for Video Camera ... we love to have your Video when you eat this super dish next time.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on February 25, 2012, 12:38:11 am
Hi Inger
   What cut of meat do you choose? Is it a roast that you cut the fat off of then stored on an open dish in the fridge? Does it work better with a large piece? Can you chisel off from right from the start or do you need to wait until it forms a layer? Have you ever tried it with a pork roast? I am liking salt lately. Would it be OK to put salt or other spices if I wanted on the outside and let it all age? Does it smell up the fridge? I don't want to push my husband over the edge.
      I love this video. I'm so excited to try myself.
Thank you
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Aaaaaa on February 25, 2012, 02:33:03 am
Thanks for doing a video in English!  You have such a cute voice :-)  I like your beef and fat "sushi"!  Kind of like a maki roll!  I think I'm going to do this with my meat. 
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Inger on February 25, 2012, 04:06:46 am
So this was my dinner tonight. I ate it all alone.  ;)

most delicious raw salmon tartar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkgKewq6h7I#)

Inger
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Inger on February 25, 2012, 04:21:36 am
Hi Adora!
   What cut of meat do you choose? Is it a roast that you cut the fat off of then stored on an open dish in the fridge? Does it work better with a large piece? Can you chisel off from right from the start or do you need to wait until it forms a layer? Have you ever tried it with a pork roast? I am liking salt lately. Would it be OK to put salt or other spices if I wanted on the outside and let it all age? Does it smell up the fridge? I don't want to push my husband over the edge.
     

I used roast, the piece what you use for roast beef? In German it is Braten. It has little fat and is quite cheap indeed.
Not tender, but it gets tender when it stays for so long. :)
No the fat was separate, muscle fat from beef. I had in slightly packed in my fridge, but some air could circulate. I do cut off the outer part first and use just the inner part of the fat when it get so old. The outer part gets quite oxidized I guess.
You can cut off from the start if you want to, I do to. It is good all time.
Do not use salt. It destroys good bacteria and "kills" the meat. I think salt for storing is no good.
If you want salt, sprinkle it on the top after you cut off a piece and just before eating! ;)
I am no fan of pig Adora.. -\ I have never tried that.
No it does not stink at all, as long as it gets air. I always use a wooden plate for my meat. It is better and it dries better.
Hope this helps.

Inger
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: jessica on February 25, 2012, 10:58:30 am
adora I would be careful about pigs...especially their organs, we fed pigs up on corn and all the organic fruits and veggies they could eat and honest they had worms in their livers when we butchered them, totally gross, but it was because they were in a large pen and being slopped our left overs, and hung out with chickens(and their poo!)  the guy who slaughtered them said it's pretty common in pigs livers cause most people don't have "free range" pigs lol so yeah, be careful, ask the people you are getting the stuff from if they have eaten the liver raw, know its condition, etc...I know another farm I would probably try their pig liver raw 'cause I trust them as farmers, know they actually know their own meat and they also have nicer pastures for their pigs
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: zaidi on February 25, 2012, 06:54:55 pm
Hi Adora!
I used roast, the piece what you use for roast beef? In German it is Braten. It has little fat and is quite cheap indeed.
Not tender, but it gets tender when it stays for so long. :)
No the fat was separate, muscle fat from beef. I had in slightly packed in my fridge, but some air could circulate. I do cut off the outer part first and use just the inner part of the fat when it get so old. The outer part gets quite oxidized I guess.
You can cut off from the start if you want to, I do to. It is good all time.
Do not use salt. It destroys good bacteria and "kills" the meat. I think salt for storing is no good.
If you want salt, sprinkle it on the top after you cut off a piece and just before eating! ;)
I am no fan of pig Adora.. -\ I have never tried that.
No it does not stink at all, as long as it gets air. I always use a wooden plate for my meat. It is better and it dries better.
Hope this helps.

Inger

Thanks for making things clear and additional information.

I want to order the "Braten" (i.e. Rost beef) too after watching this Video, but I am afraid I don't have enough time as I have to fly abroad for couple of weeks.

most delicious raw salmon tartar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkgKewq6h7I#)

Another valuable addition to our Video Library.

Please keep them coming. Thanks.


PS:
Would also love to have Video of inside of your Refrigerator after watching that tasty "Braten".  :)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: jessica on February 25, 2012, 10:20:06 pm
inger i love your videos....you are so sweet :)!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am definitely going to buy some roast next time i see my rancher...however i am wondering will frozen and then thawed meat work for this?  not sure they have any fresh.....thanks again for the videos though, they are excellent and you are a gracious and generous soul to put that out there for others to learn from! 
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: raw-al on February 26, 2012, 01:11:06 am
adora I would be careful about pigs...especially their organs, we fed pigs up on corn and all the organic fruits and veggies they could eat and honest they had worms in their livers when we butchered them, totally gross, but it was because they were in a large pen and being slopped our left overs, and hung out with chickens(and their poo!)  the guy who slaughtered them said it's pretty common in pigs livers cause most people don't have "free range" pigs lol so yeah, be careful, ask the people you are getting the stuff from if they have eaten the liver raw, know its condition, etc...I know another farm I would probably try their pig liver raw 'cause I trust them as farmers, know they actually know their own meat and they also have nicer pastures for their pigs
In all religious taboos there is a grain (pun intended) of truth. The Moslems stay away from pig meat and that is why.

It is speculated that live pigs escaped from the Spanish ships that came ashore in Florida etc and spread disease to the indigenous populations that wiped out something like 90% of native North American Indians. Somewhat like the Spanish flu epidemic of 1917- 8
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on February 26, 2012, 02:15:07 am
The farm where I get my pork is organic, but they do feed grain. I'm going to go there in the day time and look at how they live and look. Then I'm going to report back and ask for opinions. I have been eating it raw and the fat raw no problems, but not often.
Thanks everybody for the info.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on February 28, 2012, 11:21:44 am
I made a video where I look fat and old. My grandma used to say to the mirror, "Angie is that really you". I felt connected to her watching my video  -\. Other than that, it's pretty good. I can't figure out how to put things on this site. Would an administrator make sure something isn't wrong with my profile please? Or tell  me how to fix it so I can put photos and videos on the site. I was able to do it before, but not now.
      The video is called
Raw Chicken Salad and Organ Dinner Part 1

On You Tube
I'm going to put part 2 up in tommorrow afternoon. It is taking forever to upload.
Good night
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on February 28, 2012, 11:35:49 am
I made a video where I look fat and old. My grandma used to say to the mirror, "Angie is that really you". I felt connected to her watching my video  -\. Other than that, it's pretty good. I can't figure out how to put things on this site. Would an administrator make sure something isn't wrong with my profile please? Or tell  me how to fix it so I can put photos and videos on the site. I was able to do it before, but not now.
      The video is called
Raw Chicken Salad and Organ Dinner Part 1

On You Tube
I'm going to put part 2 up in tommorrow afternoon. It is taking forever to upload.
Good night
Here, I will put it up for you Adora! ;) haha Don't say that you look fat and old! You look much better than most women your age!
Raw Chicken Salad and Organ Dinner Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cpw43FTJ_I#)
just copy and paste the youtube link.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: jessica on February 28, 2012, 11:43:56 am
haha you are totally cute.........i would come over for dinner!  i love raw chicken seriously and do the same lettuce wrap thang to spare others sometimes...fuck em tho hehe
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Inger on February 28, 2012, 06:04:39 pm
Yeah!!!!! I just watched you video.. This is such a cute video Adora!
As Jessica said, I totally got the feeling watching it, I want to be right there with you!!! :-*
Adora, my dear, you are beautiful!!! Very very sympathetic. I cannot see any fat either :o. You look great!

I love that you make videos too Adora!! You have a camera man. Wow. Much better videos that mine. More alive. :)
You have such a beautiful kitchen too.

Thank you so much for sharing this.

Inger
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: zaidi on February 28, 2012, 07:54:39 pm
I am a happy man.

My wish has been granted. Thank you Adora  ( ... and Inger noted very correctly... thanks to the Cameraman too).

You see, "Reading Recipe" is boring ... but "Watching Adora making recipe" is very interesting, very pleasant.

Personally, I am very good in kitchen and could never follow a written recipe. But I enjoy the Video Recipe and could learn things much better through Video.

What I learnt from your and Inger's videos?

It was not only the recipe, but it was also the kitchen manners, and it was also the eating manners of raw meat.

Waiting for the 2nd part.

Sully... you are fast.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: ezekiel on February 29, 2012, 02:43:16 am
Sully... you are fast.
Waiting for the 2nd part.

Sully... you are fast.

Oh yeah fastest man in the WEST dude! haha Yeah I agree, watching a recipe is a lot funner and you learn more too! Im too fast! Man those organs look so fresh!
Raw Chicken Salad and Organ Dinner Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E05ODUW3JQ#ws)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: zaidi on February 29, 2012, 04:58:56 am
 Lol.

OK admitted.

You are the fastest Sully.  :)

I have seen it only once but not so much enjoyment ..... I mean it's so lovely that I have to watch it twice thrice more in order to enjoy it completely  :D

First step is always difficult for baby bird while taking the first flight.

First Video ... first flight

Want to see lot of flights from Adora.  Hip Hip Hooray.

It was so sweet from your cat that she also made the entry. Also want to see more from this superstar.


PS:
- Have you ever eaten spleen separately? Do you notice any betterment after eating it?
- What about the blood? Have you noticed any effects of drinking the blood?
- Same question is about the Lungs. Geoff said there are no nutritional value of lungs. But for me important thing is if one feels some thing good after eating it or not.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on February 29, 2012, 08:19:39 am
Nice going Adora!
Hi.  Nice to meet you there.

Maybe each of us needs to do a video.
There's a more personal feeling of connectedness.

---------------- * * * -------------------

Back on topic, this morning, I went to the wet market and got some goodies and tasted them:

- tasted from 2 different sources of raw carabao milk for my kids. 

- ate quite a lot of a new batch of sea weed noodles with my 1st boy, the 2 others just tasted.  Dipped the noodles in some real coconut vinegar just to cleanse it.  I don't know how well this has been handled.

These are guilt free noodles because they are naturally occurring in the sea, and they are quite rare.  The last time I came across them was the 18th of Feb.

Take a look!  Macro shot of these sea weed noodles.  Very interesting granular composition.

See more pics here http://www.myhealthblog.org/2012/02/29/sea-weed-noodles-rare-look-colorful-in-clumps-granular-on-close-up/ (http://www.myhealthblog.org/2012/02/29/sea-weed-noodles-rare-look-colorful-in-clumps-granular-on-close-up/)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Isthmus on March 01, 2012, 01:34:06 am
So this was my dinner tonight. I ate it all alone.  ;)

Hey Inger,

I am interested in the website you mentioned you get your honey from? I live in the UK and would order some from them if it's possible.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on March 01, 2012, 04:02:34 am
    WOW thanks everybody. I am so glad you all liked it. I'm actually having a tough day, phoenix rising from the ashes day. It was great to get on line and have all of this encouragement. I liked making the video. My whole family helped. My husband, who is still totally grossed out, watched and filmed the whole thing and my daughter who is excited to get more into raw foods, and is already paleo, did all of the YouTube stuff for me.
    I am really unhappy with the way I look in it, tough. I have been staying up really late and working hard for days, so I have depleted my energy and my leptin, cortisol, and insulin have taken a beating. I think I need to turn off all electronics and use candles after dark for the next 2 months. So, I doubt I'll make a video for a while, but I loved doing it and I will again soon.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Wattlebird on March 01, 2012, 04:35:06 am
    WOW thanks everybody. I am so glad you all liked it. I'm actually having a tough day, pheniox rising from the ashes day. It was great to get on line and have all of this encouragement. I liked making the video. My whole family helped. My husband, who is still totally grossed out, watched and filmed the whole thing and my daughter who is excited to get more into raw foods, and is already paleo, did all of the YouTube stuff for me.
    I am really unhappy with the way I look in it tough. I have been staying up really late and working hard for days, so I have depleted my energy and my leptin, cortisol, and insulin have taken a beating. I think I need to turn off all electronics and use candles after dark for the next 2 months. So, I doubt I'll make a video for a while, but I loved doing it and I will again soon.

Hi Adora
Congratulations on you and your family for putting up a great video.
Your movement between bench and spice cupboard, sink and cutlery draw, seemed fluid and agile and I couldn't see any noticeable signs of discomfort on your face.
Hopefully the knee and your ability to walk anew continues to progress nicely. (thankfully, theres always room for even more awareness)
You have great spirit.
Kind wishes, J


Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on March 01, 2012, 10:24:50 am
Brunch yesterday: Native Guava and Raw Beef Bone Marrow

My not so secret way of turning white hair to black again. 

I'm growing long hair and I'd want all of it to stay black.

I noticed if I keep eating this high vitamin c + raw fat combo my hair stays black.  If I'm off of this combo for a while I start getting white hair.

For those curious, I'm 42 and my peers have tons of white hair on them.

This technique has been working for me since 2008.

Here's my blog post about how to cure white hair and turn it black again. (http://www.myhealthblog.org/2008/10/28/how-to-cure-white-or-greying-hair-and-turn-them-all-black-again/)

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: zaidi on March 01, 2012, 01:56:18 pm
    WOW thanks everybody. I am so glad you all liked it. I'm actually having a tough day, phoenix rising from the ashes day. It was great to get on line and have all of this encouragement. I liked making the video. My whole family helped. My husband, who is still totally grossed out, watched and filmed the whole thing and my daughter who is excited to get more into raw foods, and is already paleo, did all of the YouTube stuff for me.
    I am really unhappy with the way I look in it, tough. I have been staying up really late and working hard for days, so I have depleted my energy and my leptin, cortisol, and insulin have taken a beating. I think I need to turn off all electronics and use candles after dark for the next 2 months. So, I doubt I'll make a video for a while, but I loved doing it and I will again soon.

Please take a break from regular life activities if you feel so.

And I promise I will be watching this video couple of times in next 2 months.

Hi Adora
Congratulations on you and your family for putting up a great video.
Your movement between bench and spice cupboard, sink and cutlery draw, seemed fluid and agile and I couldn't see any noticeable signs of discomfort on your face.
Hopefully the knee and your ability to walk anew continues to progress nicely. (thankfully, theres always room for even more awareness)
You have great spirit.
Kind wishes, J

Yes Wattlebird, I too didn't notice any thing else than sweet lovely smile. If she is really tired of work at moment, still she is master in disguising it as from no where one could see it at her face. 
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: zaidi on March 01, 2012, 02:03:12 pm
Brunch yesterday: Native Guava and Raw Beef Bone Marrow

My not so secret way of turning white hair to black again. 

I'm growing long hair and I'd want all of it to stay black.

I noticed if I keep eating this high vitamin c + raw fat combo my hair stays black.  If I'm off of this combo for a while I start getting white hair.

For those curious, I'm 42 and my peers have tons of white hair on them.

This technique has been working for me since 2008.

Here's my blog post about how to cure white hair and turn it black again. (http://www.myhealthblog.org/2008/10/28/how-to-cure-white-or-greying-hair-and-turn-them-all-black-again/)


Really an impressive & inspiring Photo  (please add it in your "Early" and "Present" Photo section too).

You hairs are looking really great here. And very wise decision to go for long hairs if you have such lovely hairs.

 We don't have Guava here in Europe, but I am able to find coconuts.

And I have got hands to grassfed Beef.... but bone marrow is hard white stuff, while you seems to enjoying soft creamy marrow in the photo. 
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Inger on March 02, 2012, 03:55:08 am
GS,
that is very interesting.
I love the combo Coconut and wild Berries, I eat it almost every day.
Or just Berries after a fatty raw animal-meal. Good to know I am doing something right. :)
I am curious when I start to get gray hair.

@ Adora,
when I look at you in your video it makes me happy. Yes, really happy inside. :)
Now I guess you should really follow the Kruse-programm, it would do you SO much good!
I have f.lux http://stereopsis.com/flux/ (http://stereopsis.com/flux/)on my computer (just download it for free), and also additionally turn it on as dark as possible in the evenings.
I use mostly only candles after 8 pm.
I have started to shower my legs and arms with ice-cold water. I love this.

If anyone else is interested and do not know about it yet;

http://jackkruse.com/jacks-blog/ (http://jackkruse.com/jacks-blog/)

This is amazing.

Follow these three things;
Cold  thermogenesis (adapting to cold through cold baths etc..)
As little artificial light as you can, only candles at night etc.. get to sleep at 10 pm
Seasonal eating (ketogenic in fall, winter and spring, carbs / fruits in summer only)

These three things have ALL to be done at the same time, and you will lengthen your telomeres.
Amazing stuff. How could the solution be so easy, for free! I know in my heart, this is the truth.

Inger
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: zaidi on March 02, 2012, 06:52:48 am
Hey Inger,

I am interested in the website you mentioned you get your honey from? I live in the UK and would order some from them if it's possible.

For sure Inger missed your post.

Here is the website.

http://eng.orkos.com/Default_EN.aspx (http://eng.orkos.com/Default_EN.aspx)

They are famous in whole Europe.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on March 02, 2012, 10:12:11 am
        Inger I am following the whole protocol. Except I'm cheating right now, but I miss you and I had to say that the website is helping me.  :-*
      Zaidi thank you ;D
I ate organs and coconut for breakfast
Chicken salad and veggies for lunch with a green apple
Dinner I couldn't think about one bite of meat
So I mixed egg yolk, with coconut meat, coconut oil, and cream, with a banana - which was too carny but really good. If I do it again- which I probably will I'll get raspberries vs. banana
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Inger on March 02, 2012, 02:37:32 pm
Adora, my dear!!! NO CHEATING!!! :-* :-* :-*
Do not eat fruit in winter please Adora that will mess it up. :'(
Or I might have to come there oversea and penalize you. >D HA.

Adora, did you read about what Jack Kruse thinks about diabetes?
He thinks it is no disease at all!!!!! I got SO happy when I read this! Cause I was thinking about you and you struggling with your health. But in one second I could see it.. it is not a disease Adora! You are HEALTHY!!!!
You just have been living the opposite way that we are supposed to, what our species is adapted to! And your body is crying..
You can change it so easily Adora! :-*
Just follow the holy trinity! I do NOT eat any fruit in winter. :o
Are you doing the cold baths / showers / snowbaths / or anything else for cold adaption too, dear sister..? ;)
I hope you don't have to do night-shifts Adora cause that would not be helpful. Could you change it if you are doing them?

Inger
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Inger on March 02, 2012, 02:43:51 pm
I am so sorry Isthmus!
I did miss it.. I got so busy these days.. uh.
But you got the answer. Thanks you Zaidi. :)

Inger
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Inger on March 03, 2012, 03:02:31 am
Here I am eating my lunch today. Sorry I got a call at the end. -X

rohe Fischbällchen-Preiselbeer-Mittagessen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO3y4d6Fqhw#)

I eat fishpate kind of sushistyle with cowberry dip. In the pate' I use;

Wildcaught raw and fresh codfillet
fresh ginger
fresh chili
leek
marjoram
raw butter
raw coconutoil
seasalt
1 eggyolk
wild sea buckthorn berries - instead of whitewine vinegar and honey as usual (it worked well!)

Mix all together in a food processor. Roll into balls.
I used wild Finnish cowberries as a dip, it tasted quite nice indeed! First time I did that. ;)
I thought about GS saying vit. C with fat helps your hair not turn gray. ;)

This is to a very large % wild. I love to use as much wild as I can. I feel so great from it! The best.
Maybe next time I will try to add wild dried nettles... :)

Inger


Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on March 03, 2012, 03:20:55 am
My today's Raw Paleo Tropical diet:

lunch:
0.5l fennel juice
+ 2 bananas

dinner:
1 pound of turkey breast
+ fresh coconut cream

I was never a big fan of vegetable juices. Recently I tested some fennel juice, for the first time. It tastes so super delicious to me that I believe I become totally addicted to this stuff.

I LOVE simplicity. That's one of the best aspects of my raw paleo diet. It's the best fast food in this world. Spending more than 15 minutes in the kitchen would be a torture for me.   :)

Löwenherz


Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: superja on March 03, 2012, 05:21:23 am
Just had my first raw halibut steak.


Omg, what a wonderful fish. It almost melts in your mouth and has such a lovely light flavor.

I've always found raw fish difficult for some reason. I didn't grow up eating fish ever, so maybe that's part of it.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Wattlebird on March 03, 2012, 06:06:16 am
I love to use as much wild as I can. I feel so great from it! The best.
Maybe next time I will try to add wild dried nettles... :)

Hi Inger
I am currently very much enjoying raw fresh stinging nettles: at present, very attractive taste, in spite of its ferocious appearance! ;)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on March 03, 2012, 06:32:39 am
Hi Wattlebird, do you do anything to keep the nettles from stinging you? I don't mind the sting on my hands, but I've never just eaten them fresh picked. 
      Has anybody ever eaten fresh raw poison ivy? I've herd it was the cure for he allergy. I even know a guy that does it, just like more than one person's experience.
       Inger you can come over any time. Did you mean no fruit, or no tropical fruit? I'm reading more from the Jack Kruse site, I missed a lot b/c I was reading on my little phone. I'll look at what he says. I don't want meat today at all. I had a few bites of organ for breakfast, then just salad and coconut. for lunch I drank fresh cream and I tried to have some egg yolks, but they came right back up. I'm not sick now. I just ate some fresh mozzarella, that I made, and a grapefruit. This happened to me a couple of months ago. I think I went a day or 2. I guess I'm not hungry today.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Wattlebird on March 03, 2012, 06:53:05 am
Hi Wattlebird, do you do anything to keep the nettles from stinging you? I don't mind the sting on my hands, but I've never just eaten them fresh picked. 

Hi Adora,
origami is the key: pick young fresh leaves with fingertips by touching top of leaf only. Then fold inwards into small parcel, making sure the underside (where most of the worst stings are) is always covered.
Nibble with front teeth before allowing into rest of mouth.
Works well!  :)
Kind wishes, J
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on March 03, 2012, 07:36:52 am
thanks Wattlebird, I'll try when they come in season

[quote author=zaid
- Have you ever eaten spleen separately? Do you notice any betterment after eating it?
- What about the blood? Have you noticed any effects of drinking the blood?
- Same question is about the Lungs. Geoff said there are no nutritional value of lungs. But for me important thing is if one feels some thing good after eating it or not.
[/quote]

Zadi - I don't know how I missed this. What raw animal foods have you tried so far? Thank you for all of your kindness
I did eat spleen before and I liked it much less. I think pig and chicken are less gamey than cow or lamb. I had lamb spleen before. It might just be that I'm getting used to organs. I feel that they are good for me, but my body is peculiar. I think I'm way over fed and it makes me fussy. Or maybe body is peculiar when it is sick or healing. I had a very different experience than Geoff with the lung.  I went for lung the most. I thought about it hungrily between meals. I ate some fish and chicken to switch off of organs, but I'd get 1 or 2 pieces of lung too. I don't know if I will have the same experience next time, with a cow or if I'll be different and have different needs all of the time.
   The blood was so good. I couldn't get much down b/c of the salt, but my butcher(Sam :-*) handed me the heart still warm and there were 2 good swallows of blood. It was amazing. I licked and squeezed it to pull every drop, before my mind kicked in to tell me how strange I looked. I'm sure my cave women ancestors used to drink it. I wonder why it is so uncommon today??? I think it might be easiest to get chicken blood. Some farmers sell them alive, the butchering isn't that tough, and we could have fresh blood.  :P
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Inger on March 03, 2012, 02:05:31 pm
Wattlebird,
I love fresh nettles too!!! I eat them all summer long. :) And all kind of other wild edibles I love too.
Now, I live in Finnland and here are many months with.. nothing. No fruits, no greens.. everything is covered with ice and snow. And it makes me feel good, this cold....! In combination with a ketogenic diet ;). Go figure.
I just took a icecold shower, so good. The tapwater here now is literally.. icecold.

@ Löwenherz,
I love the easiness with rawpaleo too. Often I eat just plain. But sometimes I like to "cook".
It is fun. But just sometimes.
Somethings also does not taste that good to me plain, like cod. It is fishy. I enjoy it more when making recipe. I have no problems digesting it at all.

@Adora,
I meant all fruit, except of maybe wild berries. They are great and have almost no carbohydrates. :)
Adora you are so brave...!!! I cannot believe how you drink blood and all. Wow. :-*

Inger
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: zaidi on March 04, 2012, 02:33:31 am
thanks Wattlebird, I'll try when they come in season

[quote author=zaid
- Have you ever eaten spleen separately? Do you notice any betterment after eating it?
- What about the blood? Have you noticed any effects of drinking the blood?
- Same question is about the Lungs. Geoff said there are no nutritional value of lungs. But for me important thing is if one feels some thing good after eating it or not.


Zadi - I don't know how I missed this. What raw animal foods have you tried so far? Thank you for all of your kindness
I did eat spleen before and I liked it much less. I think pig and chicken are less gamey than cow or lamb. I had lamb spleen before. It might just be that I'm getting used to organs. I feel that they are good for me, but my body is peculiar. I think I'm way over fed and it makes me fussy. Or maybe body is peculiar when it is sick or healing. I had a very different experience than Geoff with the lung.  I went for lung the most. I thought about it hungrily between meals. I ate some fish and chicken to switch off of organs, but I'd get 1 or 2 pieces of lung too. I don't know if I will have the same experience next time, with a cow or if I'll be different and have different needs all of the time.
   The blood was so good. I couldn't get much down b/c of the salt, but my butcher(Sam :-*) handed me the heart still warm and there were 2 good swallows of blood. It was amazing. I licked and squeezed it to pull every drop, before my mind kicked in to tell me how strange I looked. I'm sure my cave women ancestors used to drink it. I wonder why it is so uncommon today??? I think it might be easiest to get chicken blood. Some farmers sell them alive, the butchering isn't that tough, and we could have fresh blood.  :P


This is an important information about Lungs & Blood. Thank a lot Adora.



@ Adora,
when I look at you in your video it makes me happy. Yes, really happy inside. :)
Now I guess you should really follow the Kruse-programm, it would do you SO much good!
I have f.lux http://stereopsis.com/flux/ (http://stereopsis.com/flux/)on my computer (just download it for free), and also additionally turn it on as dark as possible in the evenings.
I use mostly only candles after 8 pm.
I have started to shower my legs and arms with ice-cold water. I love this.

If anyone else is interested and do not know about it yet;

http://jackkruse.com/jacks-blog/ (http://jackkruse.com/jacks-blog/)

This is amazing.

Follow these three things;
Cold  thermogenesis (adapting to cold through cold baths etc..)
As little artificial light as you can, only candles at night etc.. get to sleep at 10 pm
Seasonal eating (ketogenic in fall, winter and spring, carbs / fruits in summer only)

These three things have ALL to be done at the same time, and you will lengthen your telomeres.
Amazing stuff. How could the solution be so easy, for free! I know in my heart, this is the truth.

Inger


Wow! Entirely new information for me.

In fact,  I did read few times about ice water bath, but didn't pay enough attention to it.

But the way you insisted so hard... it really compelled me to take serious note of this (thanks a lot).  And result was I was dancing under the ice cold shower today  (... this dance was not intentional .... and I feared that people would hear as I had to cry too .... but no body heard any thing ... and reason was this that I was crying but  it was so cold that no VOICE was coming out of my cries  ;D )

But ... I am feeling really well after it.

I also got confusion about "Wild Berries & No Fruit theory in winter". But Adora asked it and you have already made it clear.

Nettles:
Do you feel any positive effects after eating "Dried" nettles (or any Dried wild green)?

Here I am eating my lunch today. Sorry I got a call at the end. -X

rohe Fischbällchen-Preiselbeer-Mittagessen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO3y4d6Fqhw#)

I eat fishpate kind of sushistyle with cowberry dip. In the pate' I use;

Wildcaught raw and fresh codfillet
fresh ginger
fresh chili
leek
marjoram
raw butter
raw coconutoil
seasalt
1 eggyolk
wild sea buckthorn berries - instead of whitewine vinegar and honey as usual (it worked well!)

Mix all together in a food processor. Roll into balls.
I used wild Finnish cowberries as a dip, it tasted quite nice indeed! First time I did that. ;)
I thought about GS saying vit. C with fat helps your hair not turn gray. ;)

This is to a very large % wild. I love to use as much wild as I can. I feel so great from it! The best.
Maybe next time I will try to add wild dried nettles... :)

Inger





Thanks for the recipe & Video.
Just bought marjoram (never used it before and don't know how it tastes).
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on March 04, 2012, 07:07:07 am
Inger I only saw a small part about not eating starches in winter. Did you find an article that says no fruit at all? Would you let me know what article it is in? I have had trouble with very low carb before so I'm a little worried. I'm going to email him, but I'd like to read what you saw 1st. I'm doing very well and really having fun in the cold. Thank you so much for pointing this out to me.
Oh I just thought about carrots. I have cold storage organic carrots from my farm I could eat more of them. I read that even I'd you are obese to take 50g of carbs/day.
Zadi I read, Becoming the Iceman too. He explains how importand it is to relax in the cold as much as possible. He does deep belly breathing 30 times before cold exposure to improve organ oxygen and to maintain a calm focus on your inner fire, which is the spot where you have the most warmth in your belly. The more relaxed you are the faster you adapt. After all what there to be tense about? I find that I feel better slow starting with my legs than I splash my face, then belly and chest then back. I only briefly expose my head b/c that the hardest. I at 25mins. I don't go by time I go by feel. First, it is shocking, then numb, then intense need to get out. That's when I get out but it is fun to time it.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Inger on March 04, 2012, 04:53:48 pm
Zaidi,
I have not eaten that much dried nettles yet.. but I do feel great!  :)
I just have the feeling they must be great (but not too much of them of course)
It is hard for me to tell from what that great feeling comes.. there are so many possibilities. ;D

@ Adora,
oh.. that about fruit in the winter. He points it out at many places..
You need to read his blog like studying Adora, very slowly. Then you will see!
Look, you can eat fruit and starches, but in season! Here lies the BIG secret.
And ketogenic ALWAYS together with cold homogenises AND darkness when it is dark outside, as much as possible.
These all tree things together work wonders. If you let one out it will not work that well.
I guess you did no good with keto before because you let the other two parts out Adora! That is what I guess...
Dr Kruse did all these three things, and in 6 years his age measured by his telomere-length.. got from a 55 years old to a 29 years old. :o
He have proved it, it works! He wanted to prove his theory was wrong, but it wasnt. Instead he did stumbled upon a treasure...
He have healed his family too. And he can see huge positive changes in his patients that are willing to try it. Many are not, unfortunately. It is too easy maybe. It is often that way. The truth is too close, too simple. People want believe. -X

It is a holy trinity. :) You should not separate them. ;) They are all for free, for everyone to have. :-*
Adora I asked a question in the comments section, and he answered! You can do this too! I don't know if he answers emails, I guess he might be too busy. You can try of course. But I would go for the comments-section!
But before you ask Adora.. make sure to read all his latest blogpostst AND the comments very well.. maybe you get your answer already by then!
I guess you will need some days for the reading only. ;)

Inger
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on March 04, 2012, 08:21:19 pm
Dr kruse theory on fruit and carnivorous consumption sounds solid in places with 4 seasons.

Here in the tropics, the great healers tell me to follow the fruit seasons.


Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on March 05, 2012, 03:27:42 am
Inger I'm going to give it a try I'll go 2 months the best i can no fruit/starch/carbs at all lots of dark (candles only), and as much cold as I can. I'm excited ;D Your a fine motivator Three stars for you Inger. I'll give short chronicles my journal. I like that. Maybe you want to chronicle it too. I'll be the test and your the control. To see what the results of the raw trinity are. If anybody else want to go for it that sounds fun too. I can't start until tomorrow , because I had a grapefruit for lunch. So, when fruits come into season, we can eat hem again? It's not forever, that feels better. So, from 3/5/12 - 5/5/12 we or at least I begin a new adventure. ;)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: jessica on March 05, 2012, 08:23:12 am
hehe i just read through the last few posts of this thread, i am excited now too for no other reason then you all are motivated:) makes me want to do well at whatever i am doing too, and also go outside in the cold right now, thanks!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on March 05, 2012, 08:49:23 pm
Dr kruse theory on fruit and carnivorous consumption sounds solid in places with 4 seasons.

Here in the tropics, the great healers tell me to follow the fruit seasons.

I can't wait to leave Europe once and forever.

I really hate the coldness, the darkness and the depression everywhere here, especially at this time of the year.

WE are tropical creatures.

Löwenherz

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on March 05, 2012, 09:32:26 pm
I love the cold, the extra dark during winter, the fog, the bad weather etc. Maybe it's because I have more Neanderthal DNA than the average - who knows? At any rate, I feel sluggish and weak in the heat.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Inger on March 06, 2012, 02:53:49 am
I am like you TD. I must have Neanderthal-genes too. ;)
I love to live in Finland. Now I see it as a real treasure! Before, I thought it was not..
The air is so very fresh, the sky is so blue, the sun shines so clear. I feel so ALIVE here! It is crazy at times..
I feel great in cold too. I never felt that good in the summer in Germany. The air there was not healthy for me.
When I was eating this tropical rawfood and fruit diet (I also included raw animals but it was not that much) I was freezing all the time. It was terrible.
The people here in the north are nice, I like them. They are friendly. Not manipulative, but just how they are.
Life is less stressful. People also like to be alone, there are only 5 millions living in big Finland.
Enough space for everyone.
I feel blessed. :)

GS, I do believe it is great to eat fruit in season. :) Here are only Berries and such, a few months only in late summer/fall. -X
I do eat native prefrozen wild berries year around though, I feel great with that.
If I was you, with your ancestors, I would eat everything in season where you live too.. :-*

Inger
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Haai on March 06, 2012, 03:16:30 am
So if Dr Kruse is right; assuming people eat raw paleo style and only the foods that are natuarally available to them (local and in-season foods), people in a temperate climate should live longer than people in a tropical climate, right?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: wodgina on March 06, 2012, 06:22:47 am
I love where I live, I've been up since 1am enjoying the warm breeze blowing through my house.

I lived in Ireland and England for a year  and when we finally flew over Australia on the way back, the light and blues of the sky and ocean hit me, I felt alive again.

I just love it.

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Wattlebird on March 06, 2012, 06:33:34 am
I love where I live, I've been up since 1am enjoying the warm breeze blowing through my house.

I lived in Ireland and England for a year  and when we finally flew over Australian on the way back, the light and blues of the sky and ocean hit me I felt alive again.

I just love it.

Hi Wodgina
are you now living in Australia?
Kind wishes, J
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: wodgina on March 06, 2012, 08:05:15 am
sure am!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on March 06, 2012, 08:25:56 am
Hi Wodgina
are you now living in Australia?
Kind wishes, J
He's in Perth. No doubt an empty desert with little real greenery or fauna.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Wattlebird on March 06, 2012, 08:37:04 am
He's in Perth. No doubt an empty desert with little real greenery or fauna.

Ha!  :D Other side of the island.
But (possibly) judging by Wodgina's avatar pic, we both nevertheless share (with the dolphins and great white's) a love of getting out amongst the waves.  ;)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Inger on March 06, 2012, 02:47:25 pm
So if Dr Kruse is right; assuming people eat raw paleo style and only the foods that are naturally available to them (local and in-season foods), people in a temperate climate should live longer than people in a tropical climate, right?

Yes Haai,
that is what his testings are showing.
Very intresting. People age faster in warm climates.
But the real bad thing is the biological mismatch what modern man has created.
Oranges in Finland in winter? 24/7 warm cozy houses and cars, when it is freezing cold outside..
Artificial lights late at night, disturbed sleep..
It will shorten your lifespan. That is the price you got to pay.

Makes me a little sad that I recognize this now when I am already 35. I have done lot of damage. Also worked as a waitress for many many years, late nights, very stressing.
I do have wrinkles already and that is too early. :(
I also ate tropical fruits a lot for many years, year around. I always wanted it warm.. warm.. I used electric light generously without spending a second thought is it good for me.
Thankfully it looks like a lot of  damage could be reversed!

(just got to think about how bad many fruitarians are doing, really.. if they only knew this  -[ )

Inger
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: zaidi on March 06, 2012, 05:17:44 pm

Zadi I read, Becoming the Iceman too. He explains how importand it is to relax in the cold as much as possible. He does deep belly breathing 30 times before cold exposure to improve organ oxygen and to maintain a calm focus on your inner fire, which is the spot where you have the most warmth in your belly. The more relaxed you are the faster you adapt. After all what there to be tense about? I find that I feel better slow starting with my legs than I splash my face, then belly and chest then back. I only briefly expose my head b/c that the hardest. I at 25mins. I don't go by time I go by feel. First, it is shocking, then numb, then intense need to get out. That's when I get out but it is fun to time it.

Thanks Adora.

After two days of training (slow starting and deep belly breathing), it seems that:


For Adora =  She can RELAX for 25 MINUTES

For Zaidi =  He can RELAX for 25 SECONDs, and they he has to start dancing  ;D

But it is already an improvement from 5 seconds (first time 4-5 days ago) to  25 Seconds (just half an hour ago). I am really positive about my 25 seconds  ;D

=================

Inger:

Candles are also out. 

Wild berries are also there.

Cold baths are also there.

Wild nettles (dried) are also there.

 ................................................. And I am already feeling the difference.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on March 06, 2012, 09:56:57 pm
Zadi I was only a few seconds at first too. I've been doing this almost all winter, on and off. Also, the majority of my 25 mins was in cold but not straight cold shower. I have since progressed to going to cold only - no warm water running at all. I thought it would be easy. It wasn't I made it just 8mins and i was so cold the coconut oil wouldn't spread on my skin. I tried a straight cold bath too, thinking I was well prepared. I just couldn't stand it maybe 25 secs. I think diabetes makes me slower to progress. I'm determined though. Needed to set the record straight. You'll probably be way ahead of me in no time, let me know. I'm really excited for you.
    Also, what did you mean by NO CANDLES?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on March 06, 2012, 10:21:23 pm
This discussion is interesting but OFF-TOPIC.

Maybe create a new thread for this climate adaptation discussion?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Haai on March 07, 2012, 02:58:03 am
This discussion is interesting but OFF-TOPIC.

Maybe create a new thread for this climate adaptation discussion?


Beef.....with beef fat :P
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on March 07, 2012, 04:38:50 am
I love the cold, the extra dark during winter, the fog, the bad weather etc. Maybe it's because I have more Neanderthal DNA than the average - who knows? At any rate, I feel sluggish and weak in the heat.

Cold, dark, foggy bad weather!?? ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE! LOL.

I love sunshine, brilliant blue skies with nice little white clouds and a warm lush green environment.

Tyler, where did you get your new Neanderthal genes? I can remember very well one of your emails (some years ago) in which you wrote that you HATE the bad UK weather.  :o

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on March 07, 2012, 04:46:47 am
Yes Haai,
that is what his testings are showing.
Very intresting. People age faster in warm climates.

Not necessarily Inger. I have met many old people in tropical countries who look WAY younger than their age would suggest. There are many centenarians living on the islands in the Caribbean Sea, for example.

But the real bad thing is the biological mismatch what modern man has created.
Oranges in Finland in winter? 24/7 warm cozy houses and cars, when it is freezing cold outside..
Artificial lights late at night, disturbed sleep..
It will shorten your lifespan. That is the price you got to pay.

Don't forget the coconut oil in Finland!  ;D

What is your main source of fat?

I guess butter and coconut (??)

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on March 07, 2012, 05:04:46 am
Cold, dark, foggy bad weather!?? ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE! LOL.

Tyler, where did you get your new Neanderthal genes? I can remember very well one of your emails (some years ago) in which you wrote that you HATE the bad UK weather.  :o
Löwenherz
  I only don't like lots of rain all that much.I love drizzle, snow, ice, thunder and lightning, and especially fog.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on March 07, 2012, 05:05:25 am
Back on topic:-

I had raw wild boar muscle-meat today and some raw grapes.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Löwenherz on March 07, 2012, 05:09:53 am
Today I have eaten way too much black grapes, wild shrimps, chicory
PLUS fennel juice

Löwenherz
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Isthmus on March 07, 2012, 04:26:45 pm
Beef rump steak and lemon blossom honey for breakfast.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: jessica on March 07, 2012, 11:11:39 pm
todays breakfast of greens(some grown by me) fresh egg yolks, relatively local (100mile) beef and liver

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3387122434631&set=a.3387118914543.205932.1166650227&type=1&ref=nf (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3387122434631&set=a.3387118914543.205932.1166650227&type=1&ref=nf)

woke up to a frozen chicken a few days ago :D

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3312505729260&set=a.1291724770999.87496.1166650227&type=3 (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3312505729260&set=a.1291724770999.87496.1166650227&type=3)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: zaidi on March 08, 2012, 04:07:03 am
todays breakfast of greens(some grown by me) fresh egg yolks, relatively local (100mile) beef and liver

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3387122434631&set=a.3387118914543.205932.1166650227&type=1&ref=nf (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3387122434631&set=a.3387118914543.205932.1166650227&type=1&ref=nf)

woke up to a frozen chicken a few days ago :D

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3312505729260&set=a.1291724770999.87496.1166650227&type=3 (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3312505729260&set=a.1291724770999.87496.1166650227&type=3)


Jessica,
I saw Photos of big big Farm on your Face Book account.
I wonder, why you go to buy the Eggs from 100 miles away? Why don't you simply keep the hens on your farm?
It is really a dream to see you working with greens and others on such a big area. I am a "Big Cities" citizen and never got the chance to plant even single seed in my life up till now.

PS: 
Are your Photos "PRIVATE"?  Although it is already too late, but I got this feeling "later" after watching your another album where you made your face "unrecognizable".


Zadi I was only a few seconds at first too. I've been doing this almost all winter, on and off. Also, the majority of my 25 mins was in cold but not straight cold shower. I have since progressed to going to cold only - no warm water running at all. I thought it would be easy. It wasn't I made it just 8mins and i was so cold the coconut oil wouldn't spread on my skin. I tried a straight cold bath too, thinking I was well prepared. I just couldn't stand it maybe 25 secs. I think diabetes makes me slower to progress. I'm determined though. Needed to set the record straight. You'll probably be way ahead of me in no time, let me know. I'm really excited for you.
    Also, what did you mean by NO CANDLES?

Ok, that is making me feel better now that I am on the right path with my 25 seconds.  ;D

And  about "...candles are out". 

Ah .... sorry, it was my bad English. I translated the expression "Literally" from my native language into English, which normally means Candels are out of cupboard and are in work. But this literal translation went wrong. I think I have to visit any English Speaking Country in order to improve. But I also enjoyed it "... candels are out." lol.

This discussion is interesting but OFF-TOPIC.

Maybe create a new thread for this climate adaptation discussion?


Sure GS.

Could you please separate the Posts here about "Cold Thermogenesis" and move them to a separate thread with name of "Holy Trinity (Cold Thermogenesis/Sleep/Seasonal Eating)"

Thanks.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: van on March 09, 2012, 04:04:58 am
A light lunch, going to ride my horse soon, of aged hung grass fed beef liver sliced very thinly with shaved coconut oil flakes and back fat slivers, tiny pinch of Celtic sea salt and a couple of shredded garlic cloves.  I submit this really because,, it doesn't get much better
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on March 09, 2012, 04:43:39 am
Van that does sound so nice I love horses. I plan to ride again someday but...
I had salmon roe in the fish's kindy shaped pouch, with cucumber and dandalion greensK
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now? - DURIANS
Post by: goodsamaritan on March 11, 2012, 01:49:07 am
Durian, durian, durian.

I attended a durian festival... FREE durian for everybody!

(http://www.myhealthblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/durian-health-benefits-durian-festival.jpg)

read blog and see more pics

http://www.myhealthblog.org/2012/03/11/durian-health-benefits-durian-festival-in-calinan (http://www.myhealthblog.org/2012/03/11/durian-health-benefits-durian-festival-in-calinan)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: jessica on March 11, 2012, 02:01:30 am
haha i love it gs.........how was the smell?  i remember a nice young man trying to butter me up with luxurious durian cacao maca coconut shakes........tasty! but being frozen i know there were not nearly any relation in taste and quality to what you are able to enjoy:)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on March 11, 2012, 03:42:47 am
You're very lucky to have all that awesome fruit and seafood and meat, Edwin.

I'm jealous. 
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Haai on March 11, 2012, 03:48:24 am
Durian really is the king of fruits! Can't wait to go back to SE Asia and stuff myself with durian every day.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on March 11, 2012, 04:49:26 am
Lucky you !

Looks like it's the durian season over there in Mindanao. In Thailand the durian season usually starts end of April - beginning of May.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on March 11, 2012, 07:10:53 am
The real durian peak season in Mindanao is September.

I think this mini boom is a result of farmers here deciding to plant lots of durian trees a few years ago.

Can't imagine how much more durian there will be by September.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on March 15, 2012, 09:42:25 pm
Back in Manila.

We had a raw dinner feast with my 2 boys and their 2 aunts:

- big eye tuna
- some ripe mango
- some thin korean cucumber
- some sea urchin
- some nori (sea weed toasted as wrapper)

to make fun sushi with my 2 boys.

- noodle like raw sea weed

Wanted my 10 year old boy to stuff himself.  He stuffed himself with the noodle like raw sea weed.

Had him eat a piece of raw beef liver as his vitamins.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: zeno on March 19, 2012, 02:14:53 am
Fermented honey with egg yolks. Plop some yolks inside a jar of honey and dig in!

Holy-fucking-awesome!

If you haven't tried this yet PaleoPhil (or anyone else), please do yourself the favor and do so! Honeys of high quality (such as Really Raw Honey) are amazing.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Inger on March 20, 2012, 04:32:43 pm
Quote
Fermented honey with egg yolks. Plop some yolks inside a jar of honey and dig in!
Mmmm.. sound great Zeno!  :)

@ GS,
you are such a lovely dad indeed. :) Your kids are so blessed.

My dinner yesterday.
Mackerel-tartar, mackrel -eyes -milt and -roe (from left to right);

(http://i42.tinypic.com/33yswol.jpg)

Milt is my new discovery foodwise. I love it!  :-* (how could I ever throw it away!  -[ )

Quote
Milt or soft roe also refers to the male genitalia of fish when they contain sperm, used as food.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milt)

Fish-eyes are also a new favorit of mine. They taste great!

Inger
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on March 20, 2012, 11:21:17 pm
I was eating whole raw eggs and fruit. I couldn't get enough. I had frozen tropical fruit mix, not even organic. I spontaneously bought it on sale, thawed it, then mixed it with egg yolk. I was going to heat the white, but I licked my fingers and it was soo good that I ate it all raw. I ate 5 raw eggs and a bowl of tropical fruit. No stomach upset at all. I feel wonderful. I also ate raw coco nibs. Has anybody tried them? They taste good, especially with coconut butter. I bet they would be heaven with honey. I'm not going to think about that any more.
     My butcher called. I'm going to have fresh beef organs and glands for lunch. He has no blood for me though.  :(
    He shoots the animal in the head and so they don't really bleed. I guess because there hearts don't pump. Does anybody have a humane and easy suggestion. I think I will ask if he will let me tie the next steer up and puncture its carotid before he shoots it. He will probably say no and I don't want to cause suffering.
    I know another farm a little further away where I can butcher my own chicken. They always bleed them. So, either way I can get chicken blood in a couple of weeks.
    I am so excited about my fresh organs.

Inger do you think I can dry cool the heart or liver open in my fridge the way you did with the beef muscle meat?
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Post by: bonita on March 23, 2012, 10:33:58 am
I had beef liver and carrots today.
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Post by: goodsamaritan on March 24, 2012, 09:08:12 pm
Ate dinner with the family:

- oysters
- bamboo shell clams
- big palm sized clams
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Post by: TylerDurden on March 24, 2012, 09:09:10 pm
I'm eating just 2 apples today.
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Post by: Adora on March 25, 2012, 02:17:19 am
I had apples too and liver with cilantro and dandelion greens.
Title: Tasty Fox Squirrel Bites
Post by: CitrusHigh on April 22, 2012, 07:39:46 pm
Yesterday a family member of mine accidentally hit a fox squirrel right down the road from our farm and called me immediately to let me know so I could collect the animal for our five dogs to eat. I wasted no time and 5 minutes later returned home with a big orange and grey fox squirrel. He was a beautiful specimen, clean, thick coat, bushy tale and quite obviously in robust health.

Well I've been thinking about shooting one for a while to satisfy my desire for high quality brain and other organs, but wasn't too motivated as I didn't really need the foods since I get top quality grass fed beef organs for $2/lb.

Anyway, I jumped on the opportunity and retained the head of this quite large animal for myself, an gave the body to the dogs to share. These creatures are surprisingly large up close as far as sciurids go, along the lines of a small rabbit.

She must have run over his head because, thought there was little visible damage to it, the skull was crushed. I easily scooped out the teaspoon's worth of brains through the hole in the back, they were scrambled but not harmed, and very clean. I also collected the eyes, something I've been wanting to try for a while, as well as the massive cheeks. So for a lunch appetizer yesterday, I thanked the squirrel and the universe for contributing to my health and ate each one of the small delicacies.

The cheeks were pretty flavorless but still quite delicious. The brain was out of this world. A little salty, a lot creamy, and just yummy, would have been glad of much more of it.

The eyes were another thing all together. I've never really eaten eyes as far as I can recall, except maybe that of shrimp. I was expecting them to be rather soft and liquidy. I could not believe how hard and fibrous they were. It took me about a minute for each eye to get them centered enough on my molars to pop them, it really was quite a task. But eventually I'd close my jaws at just the right time and instead of rolling to the side, there would be a bursting *POP* and a little bit of slightly salty liquid would emanate. The flavor was quite good and then chewing the rest of it was just like a very firm muscle.

I'm sorry that these picks are a bit gory looking, I'm really not trying to be sensational, just sharing my experience with these magical bits of nutrient dense foods. Cheers!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CitrusHigh on April 23, 2012, 10:16:11 am
Ate a big, fat, juicy moth that my dog caught for me a few minutes ago while walking the cows. I chewed it up good, was surprised at how sweet it is, though it makes sense since they feed on plant nectar. Will be eating more of them little buggers!
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Post by: eveheart on April 23, 2012, 10:33:34 am
Spring lamb! I just completed my one-year raw paleo anniversary, so I'm reminiscing about my first few weeks... it was spring lamb that I ate then. No wonder I'm so enthusiastic about raw paleo.
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Post by: CitrusHigh on April 23, 2012, 11:18:20 am
Happy One year Eve! I look back fondly on my first days RVAF too! I also started out with lamb!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on April 23, 2012, 11:59:41 am
Yesterday I tried some farmed crocodile.  It was a white meat.  Just for the heck of it.  Being farmed, its diet was farmed pork and farmed chicken.  Just filled out my curiosity.  It wasn't bad.  But it was very lean.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Lynnzard on April 23, 2012, 12:25:07 pm
I've had lots of wild alligator. Comes with the territory. I've never tried it raw yet, but it is also a very lean meat. I think most reptile meat is.
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Post by: sabertooth on May 18, 2012, 07:25:18 am
(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk1/sarahab88/90066b90.jpg)

Lamb leg, lamb brain, lamb fat, lamb kabob, coconut butter.

Very typical dinner.
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Post by: Adora on May 19, 2012, 12:03:03 am
Wow, Sabertooth that is great. Lamb is my next hurdle. I am wanting to eat more of it. The gamey taste is enticing, but new to me and strong. I've been getting small pieces to let myself learn what flavorful natural food is. Thanks for sharing your dinner.
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Post by: sabertooth on May 19, 2012, 03:20:45 pm
There is a large variety of flavors of Lamb. I have had many different breeds that were raised on different pastures and every breed has a slightly different flavor. Some lamb is gamey while other lamb is real mild and sweet. I love these Romney sheep I have been getting lately. I have also got some good Shetlands at one time.
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Post by: Adora on May 22, 2012, 09:45:23 am
Sabertooth - Could I ever start to love gamey. My fish monger is disgusted with the public's "bland appetite", he likes a fish with "flavor". How come we look to Guinness stout, or blue cheese for flavor and not to a raw gamey lamb liver? I confused as to why wild and gamey aren't the yumiest. Some part of me wants it so bad, but I have to starve myself before I really want even a few bites. My primal taste buds are slowly awakening. But my head gets in the way.


Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: sabertooth on May 22, 2012, 03:10:21 pm
Unfortunately most people become accustomed to the very bland taste of conventionally raised, grain finished meat early in life, and so are turned off by the stronger flavors of wild game meats. I have been getting sheep directly from the farm and for the most part what I get taste sweet and mild, of course I have been eating this way for so long that I no longer consider the flavor gamey.

Try experimenting with different sources from different types of animals. Calf meat often has a very delicate flavor. Sheep are my personal favorite, but a grass fed goat can also have a real mild taste. Deer meat has a strong gamey taste that could help you become more accustom to stronger flavors.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on May 23, 2012, 03:12:04 am
    I like beef and calf meat. I love deer, when it is female or young, hard to take the big boys though - they stink. I think I had a Romney lamb, and it was more pleasant. I liked goat cooked.
I do see some progress toward a more primal palette. I just ate a fair amount of 2 week old pig liver. It was open to air in the fridge. It kept very well. The membrane around the liver turned into a dark skin, but I peeled it back and it smelled very good. I'm happy when I notice these little "improvements" in my appetite, but they are slow.
   Have you/or anybody eaten raw squirrel or rabbit? How did that go. I had a bad experience with my squirrel. Part of it is the grain feed meat, but my head is the other problem. When I butcher something I'm freaked by the messiness of it. I'm not much of a butcher; fur, feathers, guts all over. It's not food it is SOOO dead animal. My head is accustomed to skipping that step by going to the grocery store, even the farm, and buying in an appealing package. All other predators eat with just their claws and teeth, fur, guts, etc, only encourages them. I started to eat with my hands and tear meat apart, and bite into a chunk instead of cutting it. It feels right deep inside, but so foreign at the same time. I had this idea that I would rip open a squirrel and it will be clean and smell like the meat dept. That wasn't reality. The meat was fairly mild, but I couldn't get the smells that came from the butchering experience out of my head.  Does this get better? I've butchered at least 20 times now, I still find it very unappetizing.  -[

 
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Post by: Alive on May 23, 2012, 05:16:37 pm
For breakfast - kiwifruit, lemon, liver, beef, egg yolk, celery, broccoli, ginger, I was in a hurry so I used a food processor to do the chewing:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SpDdOGcDm1E/T7y3_8QMQzI/AAAAAAAAABM/P6lVaT_Epi4/s821/CropperCapture%5B5%5D.jpg)

Dinner: Bed of baby spinach with beef, kidney, sprouted linseed, and grated butternut:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-YxnWTAm_fms/T7y3kVPWA3I/AAAAAAAAABE/yksYh9vm9GU/s903/IMAG0458.jpg)
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Post by: Isthmus on June 20, 2012, 05:11:49 am
Dinner: Two lamb hearts, lamb liver, beef kidney and venison!

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2eq74nl.jpg)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on June 22, 2012, 07:26:02 am
Breakfast

Ripe organic papaya from Palawan
Raw pili nuts also from palawan
Raw duck eggs from laguna

Doing that vitamin c plus raw fat thing for max absorption of vit c
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on June 22, 2012, 09:58:59 am
It's fresh fig season. Hoorah! Yum, yum, yum, savor, savor, chew, chew.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on June 22, 2012, 10:41:29 am
It's fresh fig season. Hoorah! Yum, yum, yum, savor, savor, chew, chew.

How different are fresh figs from dried figs in taste?  Are fresh figs hydrating? Sweeter?

The only figs I've tasted are dried figs from Turkey.
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Post by: Dorothy on June 22, 2012, 12:08:43 pm
It's fresh fig season. Hoorah! Yum, yum, yum, savor, savor, chew, chew.

Really? My little trees aren't ripe yet. Counting the days.

GS - fresh figs are very different from the original fruit - just like with almost all fruits. Figs have those little flowerettes inside that are crunchy when dried and when fresh - so that's different than other fruits. Figs also when drying send the sugars to the outside so you get that sugar hit from the start. The fig that I love fresh is black mission. The others I prefer dried at least most of them. I haven't tried all of the ... yet. Also, I have yet to have them fresh from my own trees and that's always going to be different. Figs have to ripen on the tree of they will never ripen - that's why you probably haven't been able to try them.
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Post by: jessica on June 22, 2012, 10:27:53 pm
o man i saw figs at the store..a little plastic clam shell of 5 unripe black mission figs for 6 dollars:( i figs are much more creamy and not as sickly sweet when ripe, they have a hint of latex in the skin too, they are moist around the crunchy seeds.  i love figs but they dont grow in colorado so none for me this year :( i did have the first wild currants of the season a few days ago, which is about a month early, they were ok, kinda mealy...
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Post by: Dorothy on June 23, 2012, 12:11:34 am
Interestingly (at least to me  :) ) those crunchy "seeds" inside the fig are really flowers.

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The flower is not visible, as it blooms inside the infructescence. Although commonly referred to as a fruit, the fig is actually the infructescence or s?ion of the tree, known as a false fruit or multiple fruit, in which the flowers and seeds are borne. It is a hollow-ended stem containing many flowers. The small orifice (ostiole) visible on the middle of the fruit is a narrow passage, which allows to the specialized fig wasp, to enter the fruit and pollinate the flower, whereafter the fruit grows seeds.
The genus Dorstenia, which, like the fig, is in the mulberry family (Moraceae), exhibits similar tiny flowers arranged on a receptacle but in this case the receptacle is a more or less flat, open surface. It is a structure intermediate between the fig and the mulberry, where the fig corresponds in structure to an invaginated or inside-out mulberry.
The infrutescence is pollinated by a symbiosis with a kind of fig wasp. The fertilized female wasp enters the fig through the sicon, which is a tiny hole in the crown (the ostiole). She crawls on the inflorescence inside the fig and pollinates some of the female flowers. She lays her eggs inside some of the flowers and dies. After weeks of development in their galls, the male wasps emerge before females through holes they produce by chewing the galls. The male wasps then fertilize the females by depositing semen in the hole in the gall. The males later return to the females and enlarge the holes to facilitate the females to emerge. Then some males enlarge holes in the sicon, which enables females to disperse after collecting pollen from the developed male flowers. Females have a short time (<48 hours) to find another fig tree with receptive siconios to spread the pollen and assist the tree in reproduction.
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Post by: CitrusHigh on June 23, 2012, 12:51:56 am
Thanks Dorothy, did not know, that IS very intersting!

I've been munching on...

wild raspberries and black berries as I move our cows around. Arugula, saskatoon berries, blue berries, dandelion, violets, clover and our strawberries.

Will have duck soon! Most of them will be for breeding and laying eggs, but will butcher a few of the males I'm sure,  yummy raw, super fatty duck deliciousness thank you !
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on June 23, 2012, 06:40:12 am
o man i saw figs at the store..a little plastic clam shell of 5 unripe black mission figs for 6 dollars...
Fresh figs and cherimoya are both pricey on a per .lb basis, but they are special treats that are well worth the price to me, in small quantities. Small price to pay for two of the favorite fruits of humans and chimps who are familiar with them. Plus, the price per nutrition, health benefit, and taste satisfaction is much better than many other foods. Price per .lb doesn't tell us much about what the food is really worth.

Duck breast definitely does taste better raw or dried or cold smoked than cooked.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: jessica on June 23, 2012, 06:43:45 am
perhaps the emphasis should have been on "unripe" cause thats what i was really bummed on...i always fork over the dough for delicious+nutritious seasonal goods.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on June 23, 2012, 06:48:48 am
Ah, yes. The black mission fruits I nabbed were perfectly ripe and delicious. The brown turkey figs I grabbed for variety were overripe, unfortunately. They don't taste as good anyway, so I won't bother with those any more. I like the fresh calimyrna green figs too.
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Post by: CitrusHigh on June 23, 2012, 10:43:19 am
In uruguay where my mom grew up it's mostly the green figs if they have any missions at all. I love them both! GS the difference between them is the difference between a raisin as a grape, they're both good, but almost enough contrast to call them different foods all together.

I've never heard of an overripe fig though Phil! Unless they're actually rotted, I like them the softer and gooshier the better! In uruguay with little exaggeration, pretty much everyone has a fig tree in the yard, and guess what, they hardly eat them!! ahhhh. Which worked out well for me because it was a smorgasbord and I was all to happy to oblige.

I'd love to start growing my own indoor in a big pot eventually and move outside during the summer, although Raw said they grow in new york so maybe there's a hardy variety that produces a passable fig for the northland. 
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Post by: jessica on June 23, 2012, 11:31:48 am
phil do you purchase organic cherimoya? i saw some at the asian store last week but tend to stay away from most vegetables there because, in addition to everything there being conventionally produced, i am somewhat suspect of there gargantuan cartoonish size and appearance meaning they really pump those plants full of something crazy.  the cherimoya looked enticing though, and was pretty inexpensive
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Post by: RogueFarmer on June 25, 2012, 08:57:02 am
over fertilized plants are low in minerals so make up for the lack of rigidity with excess water.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Dorothy on June 26, 2012, 12:45:16 am
over fertilized plants are low in minerals so make up for the lack of rigidity with excess water.

I'm writing that down!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: PaleoPhil on June 26, 2012, 07:21:54 am
In uruguay with little exaggeration, pretty much everyone has a fig tree in the yard, and guess what, they hardly eat them!! ahhhh.
Good lord! Are they mad?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on June 26, 2012, 07:44:30 am
Good lord! Are they mad?

Maybe you can import figs from uruguay!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: jessica on June 26, 2012, 10:54:36 am
Good lord! Are they mad?

honestly that is my same reaction when i am lying belly up underneath a mulberry tree!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Dorothy on June 27, 2012, 07:04:44 am
Whenever there is a mature tree in the yard that is a prolific producer people don't eat them all no matter where you are. One tree can make enough fruit for an entire neighborhood to feast on. There is an unbelievable waste of food in that way. If each suburban lot had just one food producing tree on their lot and everyone shared, no one would go without good food.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on June 27, 2012, 07:35:45 am
We have a big santol tree and last summer it just unloaded sacks of santol on the ground and roof.  We can only eat so much and pick so much.
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Post by: Alive on June 27, 2012, 01:30:27 pm
Found perfectly ripe feijoas at a friends place - fantastic taste : )
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Dorothy on July 05, 2012, 04:49:29 am
Been spending a lot of time outside in the extreme heat - usually over 100 degrees F in the shade, but working mostly in the sun so who knows how hot that i it feels like an oven. Been coming in to cool down and have found that recently I've been eating much more fruit than usually and still feeling good from it when usually I can't eat too much. I'm eating some wonderful dark grapes right now, for lunch I had watermelon. I seem to be able to keep working longer when I eat fruit to cool down.
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Post by: jessica on July 25, 2012, 03:54:42 am
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4218998911023&set=a.3387118914543.205932.1166650227&type=3 (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4218998911023&set=a.3387118914543.205932.1166650227&type=3)

i hope this photo shows up but these are some 100% grass fed and finished local lamb chops, they are actually quite a bit more pink then the photo shows and so super delicious, they have been sitting in the fridge for a week and have dried out pretty well, so they are kinda oily and chewy.  i am taking them with me backpacking in the tetons :) hope i dont get eaten up by bears :( but really i am not sure i am having the proper level of bear-a-niona with this decision :/  anyhow noticed the fat, there is a lot of it and its white
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Post by: Chris on July 25, 2012, 09:52:47 am
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4218998911023&set=a.3387118914543.205932.1166650227&type=3 (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4218998911023&set=a.3387118914543.205932.1166650227&type=3)

i hope this photo shows up
content is currently unavailable. But, I'm sure it looks great! I'll take your word for it. Have  a great time backpacking. Sounds like a great trip to the Tetons. I haven't been up there yet. But, I've heard it's absolutely gorgeous up there . Stay safe!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: theTruth on July 28, 2012, 01:01:21 pm
Hi I am new here, and I am looking for a nutrition plan to follow so I can become strong.  I wanted to know if Manny Pacquiao or Michael Phelps eat a Paleo diet.  They are very gifted. I would like to emulate them by following the same diet plan they do.  Do you guys have any idea what they eat???
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: LePatron7 on July 29, 2012, 12:22:09 am
I've been eating a variety of fruits. Peaches, apples, bananas.

For meats I've been eating raw calf's liver, pork, beef, salmon, lamb, buffalo.

I've also been eating massive amounts of raw grass fed beef fat.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Alive on August 07, 2012, 02:21:11 pm
Right now I am eating a couple of handfuls of sweet red yams, they are very crunchy raw with a juicy yellow centre   
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on August 07, 2012, 05:27:32 pm
Tasted a new honey. tasted Korean Kimchi. tasted some olive oil... yuck rancid.

Just came from the grocery for supplies.  Our village is flooded again after raining non stop for almost 3 weeks.

Shacking up temporarily with my brother.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: RawZi on August 08, 2012, 01:12:21 am
    Good luck with those floods GS!!

    I'm eating an organic nectarine, a raw pasture raised egg, a spoon of unheated honey with the rest of the cup raw grassfed unpasteurized and unhomogenized yellow local thick jersey colostrum.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on August 08, 2012, 02:20:41 am
Just ate plenty of my own tomatoes, then some road killed badger's liver and meat, then a bit of purslane.
Had a whole melon about one or one and half hour before this evening meal and I'll probably eat some fruit later.  ;)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CitrusHigh on August 09, 2012, 03:10:50 pm
The most tender deer I've ever had! Gorging on muscle meat because, due to budget (and for nutrient density) I live mostly on organs, fat and eggs.

This meat is seriously like manna, I don't think I've ever had meat this tender in my life, incredible, so grateful to the deer for dying so I could live.

I show respect by not wasting any of the animal, all is consumed or put to good use.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: raw on August 09, 2012, 08:38:02 pm
Thoth, u r luckey to have organs and fat buying at ur budget. My farmer is opposite. He charges me the  most money for organs and fats.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CitrusHigh on August 09, 2012, 08:45:55 pm
Reallllly? That's super weird!! I've never heard of that before. At most, you see organs for about 4$/lb around here, but typically I pay 2$ or less, same with suet. Whereas grassfed muscle meat starts at $5/lb, and every other cut get's more expensive from there, with the highest being usually about $23/lb which I think is tenderloin and the other more tender cuts.

Have you looked elsewhere for better prices? Are you connected with the WAPF out there? They could probably help you locate less costly sources unless that is just a New York thing because of your population density out there??

Can you hunt on your land? Like are you in the suburbs or isolated in the country? If you can, take your own game on your property in order to get organs. As long as you're smart about it you don't need to worry about laws, just don't take more than you need.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on August 10, 2012, 11:01:48 am
I had raw mackerel and raw scallops for lunch.  For dinner I had 3 mangoes, some thai bananas, a small papaya, and two avocadoes.

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: jessica on September 03, 2012, 10:42:21 am
wow, it must be avocado season...i just had an organic hass avocado from california and it was really delicious, definitely tree ripened!

deer season.....soon! they are all over the fields eating the potatoes, id rather eat em then chase em off :)!
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Post by: CitrusHigh on September 03, 2012, 10:54:27 am
Morning Glory and datura for me tonight ; }>
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on September 03, 2012, 03:08:41 pm
Raw beef while in the wet market while the butcher was cutting things up.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: jessica on September 04, 2012, 09:48:15 am
ryan i expect a full report on the results of your meal!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on September 04, 2012, 09:53:02 am
I had some really good green Turkey figs today.  So sweet and ripe.  I love ripe figs.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CitrusHigh on September 04, 2012, 10:16:01 am
I got reallllly sleepy and decided to go to sleep. Then woke up tripping, then went back to sleep and had some super vivid dreams. Caused me to sleep in several hours past the 530AM I planned for, woke up about 10 something. That was about 210 Morning glorie's and 15 Datura seeds. I just read they are brother and sister in mexican(native) shamanism. Next time it will be more like 300 or 400 MG and 25 Datura Seeds.

Oh also the datura gives you wicked cotton mouth, I mean, it's obnoxious, like by the time you get done swallowing a drink of water your mouth is dry again lol! But it's a teacher, so what are you going to do? Last time I ate a significant amount of datura, I was seeing people who weren't really there all night long in between dream states, I woke up having full conversations with people, it's a serious teacher that is for sure. I hear about people still 'seeing' things years later and that has me being very cautious with self titration!
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Post by: jessica on September 04, 2012, 10:18:13 am
ill be expecting some in the mail!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CitrusHigh on September 04, 2012, 11:34:55 am
Ipomoea or Datura or both?  ; )
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: jessica on September 08, 2012, 10:32:54 am
uh, i just had the most delicious raw meal to date.....
last night we got a young female deer

i had fresh, still hot from the carcass liver, which was way too much for me to handle, super gamey, very strong tasting

hot fresh blood, which had too much life, only one sip!  i was full from a full day of food, didnt know wed get one or i would have fasted all day and saved all the blood and dined on maybe a small cup of that, its extremely creamy, nourishing....next time!

i saved the heart as well and had some for breakfast after putting it one a colender with teh liver and sticking that in our not so cold refridgerator.........heart.is.amazing.
id have to say it has the best texture of anything i have eaten to date, its very tender, and has a delicious flavor.....i wish deer had more then one heart

the liver is much better after a night in the fridge, the texture is excellent, its not very fatty but its very bloody, sweet and satisfying......i got a few of the others on the farm to take a bite of it fresh and raw last night, lol! although they both spit it out after a few chews, i am still amazed they were so willing to try :) the flavor was even strong for me at the time.

the carcass is hanging, we probably wont get to it for a few days which is fine with me, no one else agrees that we should just leave it to hang, we have the perfect clean dry cement root cellar for it that is even colder then necessary but....5 against 1, super happy to have scored what i did, i have so much gratitude for how abundant the deer are right now

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CitrusHigh on September 09, 2012, 12:24:45 am
That is so awesome, I've had the same experience with deer liver from the one I got recently, also a young female, get ready for the most TENDER muscle meat you've ever had!! I couldn't believe how tender even the leg meat was, but when they haven't had much time to exercise the meat is really tender. Well, actually, how young is yours? Depending on the age  she might be super tender, maybe less so, but way delicious regardless! That is a real blessing! I've noticed the same thing with such a fresh deer liver, so bloody and filled with energy. What did the shooter think of you drinking blood? SO cool you got them to try raw liver, they must have some faith in you!

Are you going to skin the deer? Imagine a nice buckskin bikini and loincloth getup, ooh baby! lol Or a shawl, whatever floats your boat.

Glad you are having fun up there!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: jessica on September 09, 2012, 10:49:47 am
lol cant tan the hide because the best place we have is visible and, well, the deer just got in the way of the bullet if you know what i mean.  no one thought it was weird, they were amused and happy to see me really enthusiastic.  the hunter is a mexican guy, grew up in mexico but has been in idaho for 20 years.  he knows what parts are good to eat, although he wouldnt necessary eat them raw he knows its not deadly or really that weird.  i was pretty giddy and gung ho.   i think being so comfortable with it and not really having the slightest hesitation helped the others who are just american kids in their 20's.   also that i am not a total leper helps, lol, and the guy who owns the farm, who is mid twenties, from idaho, but really intelligent, open and intuitive but pretty ordinary voted me less weird then any "raw foodist especially vegans" ! yes! will report back on the meat, thought of inger when i was eating the heart though as she suggested i might really appreciate elk heart.....i think this is close enough and i think she was right
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: jessica on September 10, 2012, 05:24:40 am
okay ill stop talking about it after this but dammit, as ryan said, the meat is so tender, definitely only a yearling.  i think it was a rump piece too, not fiberous at all!  i will likely have access to this for the rest of the time i am in idaho, which at this point could be...........for.e.ver. and especially as i have enough money for a rifle and theres a shooting range down the road...yeh!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CitrusHigh on September 10, 2012, 09:57:27 am
Go on witcho bad self!

You know that you don't have to tan the hide right? you can just work it (go on girl! lol) like the natives did much of the time. Instead of using chemistry to soften the hide, you're using elbow grease. Google it and if you can't find any info, lemme know I'll give you the rundown.

A deer almost hit my bullet tonight too, but fortunately I think he got out of the way lol! (in all fairness I haven't shot a deer in like 5 years, because of circumstances n shite, so I think I'm allowed a couple, unwritten rule, in my book of guidelines for living.)
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Also everything above is theoretical and you should never believe anything I say anyhow!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: jessica on September 11, 2012, 03:35:53 am
yeah but i dont even have any place to stretch it to scrape it.  also it is on the bottom of a guts pile.....plus, really, a biniki? fuck that, id totally make some tuff pants, a vest and some mocs....i joined adora today choppin wood, yes! 

and then i ate more raw deer butt part
do you have a chart of the cuts or something? its just in the root cellar and we might just start going it at like gyro meat, ha!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CitrusHigh on September 11, 2012, 08:39:19 pm
Ok, first thing? Really? Why would you guys leave the skin under the guts? That makes like zero sense! Skinning these young animals is realllllly easy J, all you gots to do is have a sharp knife and take your time, one hand pulling the skin back, the other with the knife gently running over the membrane where the skin meets the meat. If you take your time you won't damage the skin (though nicks can be sewn if neccessary), just don't let it be intimidating, decide you're going to do it, and then make it happen, impeccable intent and all that. Also, saying you don't have a place to work the hide is like saying there aren't any trees growing in the forest! Anything that is smooth and sturdy can be a place to work a hide, a dead tree, fence post,  the beam of a building, just so long as you don't mind it getting oily. Also you can use ants to eat the fat off of a pelt, just sew it inside out and set it next to an ant nest they will chew off the fat and leave the pelt in tact (theoretically, I've not tried it personally!).

Anyway, the point is, if the pelt is going to waste anyway, then you have nothing to lose by haphazardly experimenting with it!  I facebooked you a pdf on meat cuts and nose to tail butchering, enjoy!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on September 11, 2012, 08:50:53 pm
Bone marrow,
Beef muscle,
Beef liver
Patola fruit / vegetable

For dinner
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CitrusHigh on September 12, 2012, 03:19:45 am
Oh I forgot to mention. The bee guy came to the farm while I was at work yesterday and apparently harvested some combs. When I got home there was a note that read, "this honey is from our garden/farm!" And next to it was one of the frames from the hive with big chunks of comb on it. It was super dank! I mixed the honey up with some peanuts and gold raw cream from our Brown Swiss and it was incredible! The source of this honey was our butterfly garden wildflowers, clover/alfalfa, and goldenrod. Pretty great stuff, the keeper is going to bottle some for us. I'm a little concerned now that he might be heating the honey with a centrifuge. He said he wasn't, and relied on the inherent heat from the hive itself to keep the honey workable but  you never really know unless you do it yourself! Anyway, grateful for this bounty!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: jessica on September 12, 2012, 08:01:41 am
dude its skinned, i cant have it on the farm this time of year, its not my property and i have to respect that, its in the ground now, no waste, just back to dirt

yum stoked you got honey
honey from next door soon, yum  !

eating lots of ripe fruit from around here, apples, plums, peaches, little bit of melon, had some figs, really wish it wasnt so abundant but so far not having any ill physical effects.  i feel a twinge of anxiety or weird nervous energy that doesnt feel substantial when i eat it though, and can eat enough that i know its not filling any nutritional voids, will have to be on better behavior

also those fruititarians either have the best teeth ever or are totally lying when they say that fruit isnt completely corrosive to teeth, i can feel it immediately
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CitrusHigh on September 12, 2012, 08:41:10 am
Anyway, had some strawberries today from our small patch of everbearing plants....remind me again why anyone would buy june bearing? Lollll

Thinking about going outside to butcher a chicken, but maybe not, we'll see, got lots of raw cream, so maybe will spare the chicken for now!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Alive on September 12, 2012, 09:03:35 am
Well done Toth & Jesica for living off the land you stand on :)

* Local organic grass fed fatty lamb shoulder chops, marrow and liver
* Local grass fed non-organic lamb kidneys (the organic fall out of the carcass  into the workers gumboots before they make it to the shop! )
* Purple cabbage

The organic butcher gave free fat, but the chooks like it better than I do - fatty lamb chops seem enough to give energy and padding :)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Wattlebird on September 12, 2012, 09:37:49 am
I've just finished a 5 day fast and had my first food.
Alive, the man in your avatar pic would no doubt be in accordance, as I had delicious kangaroo flank.
Also, a cucumber.
These foods smelled, and tasted, divine!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CitrusHigh on September 13, 2012, 11:00:19 am
Yumm, kangaroo!

Someone hit a Finch while I was grazing the cows near the road this morning, as it was in good shape and I've always wondered what songbirds taste like I pulled back the leg skin and feathers and ate the meat that was only just enough to taste being these birds are so tiny. It always amazes me how vital and energy filled wild meats are. The flesh was not pale like the chicken you see in stores (though a truly free range chicken is much closer to a wild meat) but it was different shades of ruby and the taste was nothing pronounced, just like really delicious chicken. Tomorrow I'll probably take a dove since they hang around a lot and are fairly plump. I should really just butcher some of our chickens though!!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Alive on September 13, 2012, 04:54:32 pm
Thoth, are you too good friends with your chooks to kill them? In Samoa they swap their livestock with the neighbors, so they never have to slaughter their own animals.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: goodsamaritan on September 13, 2012, 06:41:40 pm
Late afternoon snack with the kids.
Puyat variety fresh durian.
Premium creamy avocado.

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CitrusHigh on September 13, 2012, 09:18:54 pm
Lol, no not really Alive, I love them for sure, but I've been around death enough to be totally comfortable with the circle and I know my body will be feeding others someday as well. Death is nothing, our bodies are nothing, they should be cared for well while we are here (if we want to be healthy for the majority of our time here), but they are to be worn out and used, not clamored and groped after to our dying breath. We are just light inside of a flesh machine, and it's the same for all 'matter', it's just an illusion, a fun, painful, awe inspiring, terrible, hot mess of one, but an illusion all the same, nothing is really happening, and no one is really going anywhere!

What is keeping me from butchering the chickens? I guess just that they won't be around any more, which is different from not being able to kill them because of attachment. It's just an opportunity cost, nice to see them prancing around. But winter is on the way and most of the flock will be culled, and best to do so while they're still on rich green grass and at their highest energetic/nutritive value.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: papangue on September 14, 2012, 02:04:13 am
Yumm, kangaroo!

Someone hit a Finch while I was grazing the cows near the road this morning, as it was in good shape and I've always wondered what songbirds taste like I pulled back the leg skin and feathers and ate the meat that was only just enough to taste being these birds are so tiny. It always amazes me how vital and energy filled wild meats are. The flesh was not pale like the chicken you see in stores (though a truly free range chicken is much closer to a wild meat) but it was different shades of ruby and the taste was nothing pronounced, just like really delicious chicken. Tomorrow I'll probably take a dove since they hang around a lot and are fairly plump. I should really just butcher some of our chickens though!!
did you eat the organs? do you know if brain bird tastes nice?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Alive on September 14, 2012, 01:55:11 pm
If the bird was tiny how about just popping the whole thing in your mouth - mmm crunchy ?
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CitrusHigh on September 14, 2012, 05:38:48 pm
Lol, wasn't that tiny, and I was saving him as a treat for my dog!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CitrusHigh on September 25, 2012, 09:18:49 am
No Papangue, didn't eat the organs of the finch, the bird was soo tiny (Not bite size though Alive, lol!) I didn't feel it was worth the mess and I knew my dog would enjoy him.
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I just shot a Mourning Dove and ate it immediately. This is my first time with a dove so I didn't really know what to expect. I was pleasantly surprised! First a pulled all the feathers except for the wings which I pulled off entirely. Then I simply pulled the very thin skin away from the chest which revealed deep ruby red meat, and surprisingly a lot of it! First I cut a piece away with my knife to taste it. It was wonderful, succulent, warm, tender, SO tender and delicate. After that I just kind of gave in and ate the meat right off the carcass with my teeth. Because I hadn't gutted the animal as I was biting into her it would pump small bits of blood on to the meat which was really flavorful. Once I had enjoyed, and savored the breast meat, I pulled back the breast cage/panel to reveal the organs. I ate the heart first, then the liver and some other tasty looking bits I didn't recognize.  I also ate a bit of the kidney analogue running along the spine, all delicious! Then I ate the small amount of meat on the legs. The rest went to my pooch as a treat, which he enjoyed immensely!

The funny thing about this bird is that it had no claws except on one toe, and only just barely. All the other toes were reddish orange and bare, the feet reminded me of big bird from sesame street lol! But the bird was the picture of health, nice feathers, clean, uniform meat, nicely colored liver and firm heart, so not sure what the toe thing is about, unless they've been scratching for seeds in the gravel/dirt around here so much that they wore them down.

I think this may be my new favorite fowl meat!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: jessica on October 12, 2012, 10:35:25 am
some nice menonite type folks that i have been working with brought some fresh raw cows milk yogurt from their own cows.  its amazing, i have never had proper raw yogurt before.  although it wont become a staple, i am glad to enjoy a few spoonfuls here and there and will be getting some raw butter from them soon.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Polyvore on October 12, 2012, 04:19:32 pm
Had asparagus and macadamias for lunch.... maybe I shouldn't have too many macadamias in the future, a few gut squiggles a few hours later.

Just ate some duck eggs, and some duck livers covered in soft butter for dinner. Was delicious! Not very filling though....
I was going to have a few whitebait but decided against it, I will have that tomorrow morning for breakfast.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CitrusHigh on October 12, 2012, 08:09:22 pm
Jess I just found out you guys have legal retail sales of raw dairy in Idaho, I almost rerouted my trip slightly to swing in to that state for some provisions on the way out to cali, but dairy is usually so expensive I don't think I will bother.

Anyway, we are wrapping up the farm here for the month and a half I will be gone to cali for work, I sold out cows yesterday :(  , and though I'm sad to see them go I know they will love the farm they're going to which is an all grassfed, raw milk farm with way better resources than we have here. (just found out I have less than 3 acres to graze on due to a forestry management program that was put in place a long time ago, and I was already struggling to keep enough green grass under our brown swiss, fuck that!)

So, with wrapping up the farm came a butchering day, which equaled 5 geese and about 6 chickens. Then today I have to do the ducks, another :(  , . 

Even though I don't like to kill, it was ceremonious (not solemn, but grateful) and each death was accomplished quickly and cleanly. I felt spoiled though because I was able to gorge on all the organ meats I wanted as we cleaned these animals out, imagine big bright yellow gobs of free range, grain-free fat, hearts, livers, and organs I couldn't even identify but were delicious none the less. In some of the hens, the developing eggs were attached to their spinal cords, apparently and it looked like caviar, the eggs were in different states of development, some were just yolks with no whites and no shells, others had shells but very thin, I ate them fresh and it was one of the most decadent things I've ever had, a true delicacy and so grateful to the animals for this nourishment!

My uncle and a friend from the philippines came down for the day, I'll post pics of it some day here, took us the better part of the day because my philippino friend was teaching my uncle how to do this stuff since he's never gutted or plucked before.

That friend had never done geese though and they wanted to pluck the birds (I don't ever pluck, I skin only because it's faster and I have animals who will eat the skin so it doesn't go to waste) , But I processed two of them, and to give you an idea of how much longer it takes to pluck, even with scalding, I had skinned and gutted two geese before each of them had fully plucked one, and I've never butchered geese either. The meat from the geese is wonderful, very irony though and reminded me of the Mourning Dove I ate a week or two ago. These birds were born this spring, so not very old, but about as big as the adults and they were so tender, compared with the chickens (layers) who were tough as nails! lol

Thank you for birds!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: jessica on October 13, 2012, 04:18:04 am
uhm......yer coming out here on your way back please.  i can hook up free dairy....

"In some of the hens, the developing eggs were attached to their spinal cords, apparently and it looked like caviar, the eggs were in different states of development, some were just yolks with no whites and no shells,"

this is my favorite part....its so beautiful, like a string of pearls.  you now have massive amounts of bird juju....migrating bird juju, nesting bird juju....
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: LePatron7 on October 17, 2012, 02:41:22 pm
I've been eating raw, fertile, pastured eggs. The chickens munch on raw pork, beef, bugs, and an organic soy free feed.

I've also been drinking grass fed, organic raw milk.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Alive on October 18, 2012, 12:47:24 pm
Fresh Possum offal
Trapped this possum last night and ate the lungs, liver, kidneys, and heart. Hung the carcus up in an old fridge to age (not turned on). This was my first time skinning an animal. The liver was very large and tasted of the forest.
These creatures are introduced and considered a pest because they destroy the native forest. Unfortunately there is a poisoning program in the area, so I had to assume that since it was well enough to make it to my property that it wasn't poisoned (humans can be so wasteful):

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-BYmhxgZngfg/UH-GBfZrF9I/AAAAAAAAASE/nc2_ljvBZTU/h120/IMAG1048.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-n86rBEUC6q4/UH-GB-mft6I/AAAAAAAAASI/La3OHrb1B28/h120/IMAG1049.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-XhIaEluI8gg/UH-F6r12i0I/AAAAAAAAAR8/8flViECVJAk/h120/IMAG1053.jpg)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on December 03, 2012, 04:25:07 pm
Does anyone know the name of this fruit? It tastes somehow like soursop and this one was grown around Malaga, Spain. It's ripe when its skin can be easily taken off and in this case only its upper part was ripe, so that I'm waiting for the rest of it to ripen...
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: cherimoya_kid on December 03, 2012, 11:08:01 pm
It's called a Monstera Deliciosa

Here's the wikipedia on it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monstera_deliciosa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monstera_deliciosa)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on December 04, 2012, 04:55:03 am
Thanks !  :)
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: jessica on December 13, 2012, 12:25:02 pm

i definitely chomped on a few raw smelt today.  the fleshy part of the fish is delicious, and so easy to chew, skin, bones and all.  the head though...that took some courage! i just imagined i was doing inger proud and munched down on the heads without thinking about it too much.  it was NOT the most pleasant taste, kind of bitter/fishy? but i feel excellent and satiated.  i will be eating some raw oysters next week.  i am really excited to have a good and inexpensive source for seafoods!  also been eating lots of cooked chicken feet, they are soo weird and good.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CitrusHigh on December 13, 2012, 03:45:12 pm
Hi J! I'm hoping to have my car fixed and ready to go in the next week or so, if that's the case then I'd swing through ID on my way back, I would SO be down for some oysters! I've been craving them but don't buy them much back home due to crappy quality/price.

I ate some raw cannabis yesteday, it tasted like starbursts, it was a mexican sativa, a landrace. It was the ripe inflorescence, and had a strange texture due to the resin glands, but the flavor was incredible! I was not expecting it to be half as delicious as it was!

Adora, I think you may be on to something with the weed eating! 
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on December 14, 2012, 10:46:43 am
Hi Jessica, if you want to make Inger really proud, you'll eat your seafood by candle light with plenty of raw fat, and have a cold face dunk, before you turn in early.

Funny, I always think of making Inger proud too, so there Inger, your a down right inspiration for health.

I had a sardine, for dinner, it was still frozen after scaling  So, I put boiling water over it to defrost it. The water stayed pretty warm, so I put bone marrow, coconut oil, and seaweed into it, with a small shallot. The sardine was 4oz and I loved it. There was one bitter bite, and a couple of bones were past my chewing ability, but the entire head was wonderful.

For breakfast and lunch I had 5shrimp/meal. I'm enjoying adding hot water to cold foods. Especially fats. Today, it was butter and a few small hunks of suet with the shrimp, with salt and pepper, to make a little quick broth.

Hi Thoth, was the cannabis the type that is high in cannabinoids and low in thc? Was it juicy? Was the leaf like a salad green or tougher? Did you feel any different after? Can you keep eating a little each day and report?

California isn't in my future for another year, but I haven't had any inflammation for 2 weeks : ).  I started jogging in minimalist shoes, no problems, but Im going slow.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on December 14, 2012, 04:03:44 pm
Aren't we in a raw paleo forum?  :( :o
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: CitrusHigh on December 14, 2012, 04:59:11 pm
Lighten up Francois, it meets criteria if it includes raw food and doesn't promote cooked foods as a healthful way to eat.

Keep up the great work Adora and Jessica with the fish/heads! You will be even more superwomen than before!

Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on December 14, 2012, 05:11:28 pm
All standard modern and neolithic diets have included some raw food, AFAIK ! Some Polynesians still eat raw fish and fish heads nowadays.

BTW, the title of tis topic is "What  rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?" Members are free to tell what cooked, neolithic, modern or whatever crap foods they are eating right now, but it should be done in an appropriate thread in the "Off topic" or "Hot topic" sections.  ;D

Cheers
François
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on December 14, 2012, 09:43:19 pm
Hi Iguana,
   I'm not trying to cramp your style. I get a lot from your "purest" approach to diet and life. I was really stressing myself out trying to avoid heat at all costs. I didn't cook the seafood. I added a little hot water to still icy fish. It didn't even boil, just to be clear.
    Still I'm not intending to promote cooking, only showing how in my life, for now, I find ways to enjoy raw foods, when fresh isn't easy for me.
    But readers make no mistake. I would trade my current situation, and I am working for a day when I can provide the freshest foods possible, that I capture, raise, hunt, bla, bla for myself.
    I have zero desire to rumple anybodies panties, so if you'd like me to stop posting here, please be clear.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on December 14, 2012, 10:42:13 pm
No problem Adora, please keep on posting!

It's just that I find it frustrating that so many members can't stay on a completely raw paleo nutrition, which has proved to be by far the easiest, safer and much more stable way in the long run. 
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Adora on December 16, 2012, 05:04:13 am
Iguana I enjoyed all raw  ;D and I'm proud to post
 
Mixed bone marrow with olive oil and a drop of ACV until creamy. Added salt, pepper, herbs (I used marjoram, oregano, sage, thyme, and tarragon), shallots, and garlic. Then, I used this as a dipping sauce for melt in my mouth tender sirloin, but I imagine it would be lovely with pork, scallops, salmon - oh so good.

  ....garlic breath was strong, but didn't linger after brushing.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on January 12, 2013, 03:23:57 am
Pollen.

It's a short name... but extremely tasty and fulfilling, especially since I didn't have any for a very long time. Of course, I ate other foods as well today!
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: LePatron7 on January 12, 2013, 03:48:14 am
Not to creative. But I just had 8 oz of grass fed lamb shoulder, very fatty. With 1 oz suet, and a banana with brown spots. Pretty filling.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on January 12, 2013, 05:19:32 am
Pollen.

It's a short name... but extremely tasty and fulfilling, especially since I didn't have any for a very long time. Of course, I ate other foods as well today!
I loathe pollen. I got hold of organic, sundried pollen(presumably all-raw etc.) and it just made me feel ultra-hot inside, as though I had swallowed some chilli.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Alive on January 12, 2013, 08:35:26 am
Greenish & slimy grass fed lamb shoulder chops, tastes good and leaves nice slimy smile  (best before 7 Jan, now 12 Jan plus left it out of fridge for a day, which would be like 1 week past use by at fridge temperature).
I better go wash up before guests arrive !  O0
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: TylerDurden on January 12, 2013, 04:16:38 pm
I currently eat raw wild boar shoulder or raw moufflon shoulder, most of the time. The benefit is that it's all raw wild game, no mere grassfed meat. On the other hand, I am unable to get hold of raw organ-meats at all, and that worries me a little.

I also eat nonorganic fruits and very occasional veg. For some reason, low quality, raw plant foods don't affect me in the decidedly negative way that low quality raw animal foods do.
Title: Re: What rawpalaeo foods are you eating right now?
Post by: Iguana on January 12, 2013, 04:52:36 pm
I currently eat raw wild boar shoulder or raw moufflon shoulder, most of the time. The benefit is that it's all raw wild game, no mere grassfed meat. On the other hand, I am unable to get hold of raw organ-meats at all, and that worries me a little.
I was in the same situati